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  • P Paul Watson

    Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

    cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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    Lost User
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    This seems like a strange move to me actually, could someone please explain how it makes sense? :confused:

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      This seems like a strange move to me actually, could someone please explain how it makes sense? :confused:

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      Paul Watson
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      Sun cashing out before it really starts to depreciate.

      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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      • P Paul Watson

        Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        Yes it is a lot better fit. Considering that Oracle Fusion is based on Java and Oracle uses Java at many places.

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          Yes it is a lot better fit. Considering that Oracle Fusion is based on Java and Oracle uses Java at many places.

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          Paul Watson
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          Well in fairness IBM uses a lot of Java too. I think it is more important to Oracle that it now owns MySQL, one of its biggest competitors. God knows what they are going to do to MySQL now though.

          cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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          • P Paul Watson

            Well in fairness IBM uses a lot of Java too. I think it is more important to Oracle that it now owns MySQL, one of its biggest competitors. God knows what they are going to do to MySQL now though.

            cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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            NormDroid
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            My guess is that they could rebrand it to 'Oracle Lite':~

            Software Kinetics - Moving software

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            • P Paul Watson

              Well in fairness IBM uses a lot of Java too. I think it is more important to Oracle that it now owns MySQL, one of its biggest competitors. God knows what they are going to do to MySQL now though.

              cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              It'll now be _Their_SQL.

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                It'll now be _Their_SQL.

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                Isn't MySQL open source? I think they'll just have to let it go free. [like that'll happen!!]


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                  Isn't MySQL open source? I think they'll just have to let it go free. [like that'll happen!!]


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                  NormDroid
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                  It will be free and completely stripped down, probably rebadged as Oracle 'Lite', then maybe they'll over more versions of Oracle increasing price and features.

                  Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                  • N NormDroid

                    My guess is that they could rebrand it to 'Oracle Lite':~

                    Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                    Norm .net wrote:

                    they could rebrand it to 'Oracle Lite'

                    That would make sense only if they replaced the existing (jokes of) MySQL db engines with Oracle's one.

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

                      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                      Michael Bookatz
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                      Interesting days ahead. could be good for the industry.

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                        John M Drescher
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                        I worry what will happen to MySQL since I use that at work and home.

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

                          cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                          Judah Gabriel Himango
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                          Interesting! I was wondering if IBM or Oracle would buy them. I even wondered in the back of my mind whether Microsoft would consider buying Sun.

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                          • N NormDroid

                            My guess is that they could rebrand it to 'Oracle Lite':~

                            Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                            Vikram A Punathambekar
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                            There is already a lite/express version of Oracle.

                            Cheers, Vıkram.

                            Carpe Diem.

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                            • P Paul Watson

                              Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

                              cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                              Will there be a fork - open osurce called OurSQL and close source called OrSQL?

                              Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                There is already a lite/express version of Oracle.

                                Cheers, Vıkram.

                                Carpe Diem.

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                                NormDroid
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                                Shows you what little I know of Oracle. I've worked with Oracle only once and vowed to use it never again.

                                Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                                  Will there be a fork - open osurce called OurSQL and close source called OrSQL?

                                  Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  OraQL.

                                  cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                  • P Paul Watson

                                    Well in fairness IBM uses a lot of Java too. I think it is more important to Oracle that it now owns MySQL, one of its biggest competitors. God knows what they are going to do to MySQL now though.

                                    cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                    now that Oracle 10g express and M$SQL Express are free, why'd you need MySQL? MySQL ... function and triggers cannot be recursive temp table cannot be referenced more than once in same query open more than one conn per transaction is not permitted (distrib trans..) ... I thought MySQL is nice in beginning but now thinks its fading away

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      Will there be a fork - open osurce called OurSQL and close source called OrSQL?

                                      Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                                      devvvy
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                                      why do we want to yet reinvent the wheel once again?

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                                      • N NormDroid

                                        It will be free and completely stripped down, probably rebadged as Oracle 'Lite', then maybe they'll over more versions of Oracle increasing price and features.

                                        Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                                        devvvy
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                                        we already have oracle 10g Express and a free M$SQL Express

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                                        • N NormDroid

                                          Shows you what little I know of Oracle. I've worked with Oracle only once and vowed to use it never again.

                                          Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                                          devvvy
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                                          i had problem with it recently discovered it didn't like transaction scope (doc says it does) failed with some "internal error" trying to access memory it isn't supposed to. oracle engineer recommended me to use ODAC BETA version and yet even this version didn't work in the end i resort to go old oConn.BeginTransaction and oTx.Commit/Rollback

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