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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    It'll now be _Their_SQL.

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    Isn't MySQL open source? I think they'll just have to let it go free. [like that'll happen!!]


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      Isn't MySQL open source? I think they'll just have to let it go free. [like that'll happen!!]


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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      NormDroid
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      It will be free and completely stripped down, probably rebadged as Oracle 'Lite', then maybe they'll over more versions of Oracle increasing price and features.

      Software Kinetics - Moving software

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      • N NormDroid

        My guess is that they could rebrand it to 'Oracle Lite':~

        Software Kinetics - Moving software

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        Nemanja Trifunovic
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        Norm .net wrote:

        they could rebrand it to 'Oracle Lite'

        That would make sense only if they replaced the existing (jokes of) MySQL db engines with Oracle's one.

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        • P Paul Watson

          Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

          cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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          Michael Bookatz
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          Interesting days ahead. could be good for the industry.

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          • P Paul Watson

            Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

            cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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            John M Drescher
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            I worry what will happen to MySQL since I use that at work and home.

            John

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            • P Paul Watson

              Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

              cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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              Judah Gabriel Himango
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              Interesting! I was wondering if IBM or Oracle would buy them. I even wondered in the back of my mind whether Microsoft would consider buying Sun.

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              • N NormDroid

                My guess is that they could rebrand it to 'Oracle Lite':~

                Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                Vikram A Punathambekar
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                There is already a lite/express version of Oracle.

                Cheers, Vıkram.

                Carpe Diem.

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

                  cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                  Lost User
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                  Will there be a fork - open osurce called OurSQL and close source called OrSQL?

                  Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                    Will there be a fork - open osurce called OurSQL and close source called OrSQL?

                    Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                    Paul Watson
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                    OraQL.

                    cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                    • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                      There is already a lite/express version of Oracle.

                      Cheers, Vıkram.

                      Carpe Diem.

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                      NormDroid
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                      Shows you what little I know of Oracle. I've worked with Oracle only once and vowed to use it never again.

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        Well in fairness IBM uses a lot of Java too. I think it is more important to Oracle that it now owns MySQL, one of its biggest competitors. God knows what they are going to do to MySQL now though.

                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                        devvvy
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                        now that Oracle 10g express and M$SQL Express are free, why'd you need MySQL? MySQL ... function and triggers cannot be recursive temp table cannot be referenced more than once in same query open more than one conn per transaction is not permitted (distrib trans..) ... I thought MySQL is nice in beginning but now thinks its fading away

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                          Will there be a fork - open osurce called OurSQL and close source called OrSQL?

                          Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                          devvvy
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                          why do we want to yet reinvent the wheel once again?

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                          • N NormDroid

                            It will be free and completely stripped down, probably rebadged as Oracle 'Lite', then maybe they'll over more versions of Oracle increasing price and features.

                            Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                            devvvy
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                            we already have oracle 10g Express and a free M$SQL Express

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                              Shows you what little I know of Oracle. I've worked with Oracle only once and vowed to use it never again.

                              Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                              devvvy
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                              i had problem with it recently discovered it didn't like transaction scope (doc says it does) failed with some "internal error" trying to access memory it isn't supposed to. oracle engineer recommended me to use ODAC BETA version and yet even this version didn't work in the end i resort to go old oConn.BeginTransaction and oTx.Commit/Rollback

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                              • D devvvy

                                why do we want to yet reinvent the wheel once again?

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                                NormDroid
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                                devvvy wrote:

                                why do we want to yet reinvent the wheel once again

                                Because that's how the computer industry makes money. Otherwise we'd all stil be using C compilers and developing on legacy systems :~

                                Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                                  devvvy wrote:

                                  why do we want to yet reinvent the wheel once again

                                  Because that's how the computer industry makes money. Otherwise we'd all stil be using C compilers and developing on legacy systems :~

                                  Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                                  devvvy
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                                  that's a good thing if you consider how financial industry and real estate makes money out of everyone else - so afterall we should reinvent our wheels!

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                                  • P Paul Watson

                                    Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

                                    cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                    Robert Surtees
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                                    You can look at what they are doing with/to Berkeley DB to get a taste of what might be in store for MySQL. Oracle Berkely DB Product Family[^].

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                                    • P Paul Watson

                                      Oracle has bought Sun[^]. Probably not so many of us here using Java but this has implications for those of us using MySQL. Seems a better fit than IBM buying Sun though.

                                      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                      Ray Cassick
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                                      I am not so sure that I think this is a great idea. I think at first glance people will try to gravitate to what looks like the natural synergy of Oracle (a company heavily leveraged in Java) and SUN (a company that is also obviously heavily involved in Java) but there is a larger component here, the hardware parts, where I think Oracle may have issues. To me this is a clear case of a company getting outside their comfort zone. It can go very well or it can end poorly. I have seen it go both ways, and have been involved in at least one of them (Intel's move into the communications space). Look around and see if you can find any others in the market.. I bet you can. I understand the theory behind synergy and linked product diversification, and it is really hard to look forward in this industry and try to see all the possible outcomes just because the variables are so many, but I just get a bad feeling about this move. I also ask if people would think it was a good idea for Microsoft to buy a hardware company? Do you think that would be successful (keep any anti-ms bias out of it for now).


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                                      • R Ray Cassick

                                        I am not so sure that I think this is a great idea. I think at first glance people will try to gravitate to what looks like the natural synergy of Oracle (a company heavily leveraged in Java) and SUN (a company that is also obviously heavily involved in Java) but there is a larger component here, the hardware parts, where I think Oracle may have issues. To me this is a clear case of a company getting outside their comfort zone. It can go very well or it can end poorly. I have seen it go both ways, and have been involved in at least one of them (Intel's move into the communications space). Look around and see if you can find any others in the market.. I bet you can. I understand the theory behind synergy and linked product diversification, and it is really hard to look forward in this industry and try to see all the possible outcomes just because the variables are so many, but I just get a bad feeling about this move. I also ask if people would think it was a good idea for Microsoft to buy a hardware company? Do you think that would be successful (keep any anti-ms bias out of it for now).


                                        LinkedIn[^] | Blog[^] | Twitter[^]

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                                        Paul Watson
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                                        Ray Cassick wrote:

                                        I also ask if people would think it was a good idea for Microsoft to buy a hardware company? Do you think that would be successful

                                        Best mice and keyboards I ever used were from Microsoft... And who makes the XBox? That works pretty well. Maybe a Microsoft Windows and Microsoft PC strategy could work. Simplify things (price would go up though.) But yeah. I don't see it going well for Sun and Oracle. It is better than IBM + Sun but that isn't saying much.

                                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                          now that Oracle 10g express and M$SQL Express are free, why'd you need MySQL? MySQL ... function and triggers cannot be recursive temp table cannot be referenced more than once in same query open more than one conn per transaction is not permitted (distrib trans..) ... I thought MySQL is nice in beginning but now thinks its fading away

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                                          Lost User
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                                          devvvy wrote:

                                          now that Oracle 10g express and M$SQL Express are free, why'd you need MySQL?

                                          Are either open source?

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