Chris offers us a Soap Box 1.0
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At the 2:13 mark in this video[^], an example of the mindset of you, and a few others is demonstrated.
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
Sorry, sonny, I don't have time to watch videos. Try finding words to express what you think rather than running out to the web to be told what you think.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Shog9 wrote:
Aren't you already moderating this board? Can't you just nuke posts of the sort you're looking to avoid?
Absolutely. But as I told Chris, I don't want to get into a post-delete-post-delete pissing contest with the two of them. Since I still work and they don't, it's not a battle I could win - and more importantly, it might end up with even more of their crap being posted. I was fine with ignoring their posts even though they both began to snipe at me twice as often once I stopped responding, but it became clear, thanks to a thread Christian started, that a lot of old hands had given up and ceded the field to the two of them. When Rob Graham, one of the moderators, said he, too, was making like an unpaid band and ankling, I decided that enough was enough. It's made for an interesting weekend. Never got so many hate-posts aimed at me before. Made me feel special. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Sorry, sonny, I don't have time to watch videos. Try finding words to express what you think rather than running out to the web to be told what you think.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
Try finding words to express what you think rather than running out to the web to be told what you think.
That is not what I do, I run out to the web to find information. Watching someone speak in real-time is more informative as you not only get the words, you get the emotions of the person speaking. Back to the point, the video I posted a link with the time of reference in the video, was meant to be a short 10 second demonstration, not an explanation.
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
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Shog9 wrote:
Aren't you already moderating this board? Can't you just nuke posts of the sort you're looking to avoid?
Absolutely. But as I told Chris, I don't want to get into a post-delete-post-delete pissing contest with the two of them. Since I still work and they don't, it's not a battle I could win - and more importantly, it might end up with even more of their crap being posted. I was fine with ignoring their posts even though they both began to snipe at me twice as often once I stopped responding, but it became clear, thanks to a thread Christian started, that a lot of old hands had given up and ceded the field to the two of them. When Rob Graham, one of the moderators, said he, too, was making like an unpaid band and ankling, I decided that enough was enough. It's made for an interesting weekend. Never got so many hate-posts aimed at me before. Made me feel special. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
I was fine with ignoring their posts even though they both began to snipe at me twice as often once I stopped responding, but it became clear, thanks to a thread Christian started, that a lot of old hands had given up and ceded the field to the two of them.
I see... That makes sense. Gotta admit, i only bother checking this forum once every week or so anymore, just on the off-chance that someone posts something interesting. An invite-only message board might work, provided you can get enough folks involved who actually have something to talk about. You're probably better off keeping the board at least semi-private though, just to avoid sparking fires elsewhere... Judging by what Gary has pointed out, it appears that we've graduated from attracting trolls to attracting terrorist cowards. :sigh:
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Shog9 wrote:
Can't you just nuke posts of the sort you're looking to avoid?
Then it spills out into other forums.[^] In case you were wondering who.[^]
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Oakman wrote:
I was fine with ignoring their posts even though they both began to snipe at me twice as often once I stopped responding, but it became clear, thanks to a thread Christian started, that a lot of old hands had given up and ceded the field to the two of them.
I see... That makes sense. Gotta admit, i only bother checking this forum once every week or so anymore, just on the off-chance that someone posts something interesting. An invite-only message board might work, provided you can get enough folks involved who actually have something to talk about. You're probably better off keeping the board at least semi-private though, just to avoid sparking fires elsewhere... Judging by what Gary has pointed out, it appears that we've graduated from attracting trolls to attracting terrorist cowards. :sigh:
You don't find this interesting? It will effect you in a big way.[^]
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
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You don't find this interesting? It will effect you in a big way.[^]
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
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Christian Graus wrote:
1 - given a choice between a forum with CSS and Ilion, and a forum with you, I choose you. So, I do follow this with interest
That definitely is the choice.
Christian Graus wrote:
However, something about creating an exclusive site, or club on this site, to explicitly block them out, seems to me like we're saying they win.
Okay, they win - but it will be a phyrric victory. Hannibal, for instance, won almost every battle he ever vote in Italy for twenty years, but he lost the war. Although they are, indeed, the impetus for this, I frankly think its overdue. CP needs to do something not only to control the trolls, but the plz-hlp types as well.
Christian Graus wrote:
I also think that what you're doing feeds his persecution complex, and his mental illness, by making him the focus of attention.
I learned a long time ago I couldn't save everybody and I have seen no signs he is worth saving. Indeed, I will confess to a little smile that is brought about as he screams ever louder about being shut out. I suppose that's just another not-so-nice aspect of my personality that they bring out.
Christian Graus wrote:
Ilion has no illness to blame, he's just nuts.
So we got both Mounds and Almond Joy? Which would you rather? Stay here as a closed forum? Or move elsewhere?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
Which would you rather? Stay here as a closed forum? Or move elsewhere?
To be honest, my preference would really be to do whatever benefits CP more. I suspect that would be staying here, because it generates site traffic.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
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Christian Graus wrote:
People should ignore you because of your mental illness. The comment I quoted, is proof of your illness, as if the conspiracy theories were not enough.
So I am not allowed social interaction because of my perceived mental illness? Also, on the comment you quoted, I consider that as an ability and a gift. It helps me in areas such as visualization, mathematics, troubleshooting, and creativity. My knowledge of the banking cartel and their plans is actually common knowledge, but most people are afraid of being criticized and ridiculed if they speak up about it. Read some writings by Dr. Ron Paul, that is an excellent start for someone like you.
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So I am not allowed social interaction because of my perceived mental illness?
Not at all. It's that the sort of interaction that happens here, only feeds your illness.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
My knowledge of the banking cartel and their plans is actually common knowledge, but most people are afraid of being criticized and ridiculed if they speak up about it.
Yes, there are a lot of conspiracy nuts, and not all of them are mentally ill. But, they are all bound by other things, and knowledge is not one of them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So I am not allowed social interaction because of my perceived mental illness?
Not at all. It's that the sort of interaction that happens here, only feeds your illness.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
My knowledge of the banking cartel and their plans is actually common knowledge, but most people are afraid of being criticized and ridiculed if they speak up about it.
Yes, there are a lot of conspiracy nuts, and not all of them are mentally ill. But, they are all bound by other things, and knowledge is not one of them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, there are a lot of conspiracy nuts, and not all of them are mentally ill. But, they are all bound by other things, and knowledge is not one of them.
Did you check out some of Dr. Ron Paul's writings? Are you going to or are you just going to keep on going on like you do?
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
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Shog9 wrote:
It's nothing new.
No bid deal right? Just business as usual? Nothing really going on here? Just government doing what its supposed to do? Something we can all be proud of? Change we can all believe in? Eh..?
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
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Shog9 wrote:
It's nothing new.
No bid deal right? Just business as usual? Nothing really going on here? Just government doing what its supposed to do? Something we can all be proud of? Change we can all believe in? Eh..?
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
Pay attention: I wrote, "It's nothing new." Don't freak out. Write your representative if you want, or protest in the streets; whatever you think might help. But take a good look around before you do: chances are, there are much more effective means for Gov't to keep an eye on you already in place...
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Pay attention: I wrote, "It's nothing new." Don't freak out. Write your representative if you want, or protest in the streets; whatever you think might help. But take a good look around before you do: chances are, there are much more effective means for Gov't to keep an eye on you already in place...
Shog9 wrote:
Don't freak out.
I wasn't. I am just wondering why you aren't concerned about it? Why don't you have anything more to say about it than "Its nothing new"?
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
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Shog9 wrote:
Don't freak out.
I wasn't. I am just wondering why you aren't concerned about it? Why don't you have anything more to say about it than "Its nothing new"?
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
You brought it up as an example of something that would affect me, something i should find interesting. It won't, and i don't. I'm not saying i like it, any more than i liked finding out about the secret boxes they installed in phone exchanges a few years back... But trust me - if you're concerned about your privacy, then you need to re-adjust your focus. They don't need the NSA to watch you. Your friends, neighbors, and associates will do the job for them. They don't need to intercept your emails, phone calls, messages... You'll contact them directly, without even realizing it. They won't need a carefully-constructed mountain of evidence to convict you; you'll confess willingly. It's happening all around you, and has been for years...
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Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, there are a lot of conspiracy nuts, and not all of them are mentally ill. But, they are all bound by other things, and knowledge is not one of them.
Did you check out some of Dr. Ron Paul's writings? Are you going to or are you just going to keep on going on like you do?
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
Some of us have jobs. No, I've not read his writings in the past hour. What I want you to understand is that people have been talking about the imminent new world order for most of my life, and for well before that. Things like the 'Protocols of Zion' ( a book loved by conspiracy nuts, but also written by them, it's a forgery ), have been around for a long time.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
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Oakman wrote:
Which would you rather? Stay here as a closed forum? Or move elsewhere?
To be honest, my preference would really be to do whatever benefits CP more. I suspect that would be staying here, because it generates site traffic.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
Christian Graus wrote:
To be honest, my preference would really be to do whatever benefits CP more.
Mine, too. I really like this website.
Christian Graus wrote:
I suspect that would be staying here, because it generates site traffic.
I agree. I think that a Soapbox 1.0 (Chris has agreed to the name, by the way. I wanted to be sure he didn't find it off-putting) that would allow folks to freely express themselves while enforcing two rules: no trolls; and no-one allowed in until they've been active for the last six months - active means having posted or written articles or somehow made a contribution to the site, not just being registered) would end up being something that could be an advantage. Chris is putting the concept of read-all, write-members-only on his todo list. Do you think you could accept emails from this site for a couple of hours? I'd like to run a couple of things by you.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Some of us have jobs. No, I've not read his writings in the past hour. What I want you to understand is that people have been talking about the imminent new world order for most of my life, and for well before that. Things like the 'Protocols of Zion' ( a book loved by conspiracy nuts, but also written by them, it's a forgery ), have been around for a long time.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
Christian Graus wrote:
No, I've not read his writings in the past hour
One thing you should know, Christian, in case you don't, is that Ron Paul is a perfectly normal human being - relatively libertarian (i.e. financially conservative, but socially neutral) who would shudder to think that CSS claims to speak for him or even about him.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Some of us have jobs. No, I've not read his writings in the past hour. What I want you to understand is that people have been talking about the imminent new world order for most of my life, and for well before that. Things like the 'Protocols of Zion' ( a book loved by conspiracy nuts, but also written by them, it's a forgery ), have been around for a long time.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
Educate yourself about what is going on, what their plans are, why they want what they want. Most of these people have "god complex", they are very sick, and also very intelligent. They want power, and lots of it. Power gives a feeling intoxication, the more power they have the better. The mechanisms are in place for them to exercise their power, but they want more. They want absolute power and they will start wars and destroy anything to get it. Imagine yourself on the brink of an orgasm, you don't stop, you keep going hard and stronger to get to it no matter what. That is kind of what it is like.
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.
modified on Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:04 PM
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Christian Graus wrote:
No, I've not read his writings in the past hour
One thing you should know, Christian, in case you don't, is that Ron Paul is a perfectly normal human being - relatively libertarian (i.e. financially conservative, but socially neutral) who would shudder to think that CSS claims to speak for him or even about him.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
I had heard the name before, but yes, his name was obviously tainted by association at this point, until you commented otherwise.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
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Christian Graus wrote:
No, I've not read his writings in the past hour
One thing you should know, Christian, in case you don't, is that Ron Paul is a perfectly normal human being - relatively libertarian (i.e. financially conservative, but socially neutral) who would shudder to think that CSS claims to speak for him or even about him.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
is that Ron Paul is a perfectly normal human being
Oh but he expressed concerns about 9/11. He won't go so far as to say he is a "truther", but he certainly has concerns about the government's reports, (actions, and inactions (before and after)) regarding 9/11.
Obloga Obama Blog[^] Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age to produce the sort of character and sort of beliefs that authorities consider desirable. Any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.