Vaccinations: Deadly Immunity
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Global Research Full report here.[^] In June 2000, a group of top government scientists and health officials gathered for a meeting at the isolated Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Georgia. Convened by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the meeting was held at this Methodist retreat center, nestled in wooded farmland next to the Chattahoochee River, to ensure complete secrecy. The agency had issued no public announcement of the session -- only private invitations to fifty-two attendees. There were high-level officials from the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, the top vaccine specialist from the World Health Organization in Geneva and representatives of every major vaccine manufacturer, including GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Wyeth and Aventis Pasteur. All of the scientific data under discussion, CDC officials repeatedly reminded the participants, was strictly "embargoed." There would be no making photocopies of documents, no taking papers with them when they left. The federal officials and industry representatives had assembled to discuss a disturbing new study that raised alarming questions about the safety of a host of common childhood vaccines administered to infants and young children. According to a CDC epidemiologist named Tom Verstraeten, who had analyzed the agency's massive database containing the medical records of 100,000 children, a mercury-based preservative in the vaccines -- thimerosal -- appeared to be responsible for a dramatic increase in autism and a host of other neurological disorders among children. "I was actually stunned by what I saw," Verstraeten told those assembled at Simpsonwood, citing the staggering number of earlier studies that indicate a link between thimerosal and speech delays, attention-deficit disorder, hyperactivity and autism. Since 1991, when the CDC and the FDA had recommended that three additional vaccines laced with the preservative be given to extremely young infants -- in one case, within hours of birth -- the estimated number of cases of autism had increased fifteenfold, from one in every 2,500 children to one in 166 children. Even for scientists and doctors accustomed to confronting issues of life and death, the findings were frightening. "You can play with this all you want," Dr. Bill Weil, a consultant for the A
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Global Research Full report here.[^] In June 2000, a group of top government scientists and health officials gathered for a meeting at the isolated Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Georgia. Convened by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the meeting was held at this Methodist retreat center, nestled in wooded farmland next to the Chattahoochee River, to ensure complete secrecy. The agency had issued no public announcement of the session -- only private invitations to fifty-two attendees. There were high-level officials from the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, the top vaccine specialist from the World Health Organization in Geneva and representatives of every major vaccine manufacturer, including GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Wyeth and Aventis Pasteur. All of the scientific data under discussion, CDC officials repeatedly reminded the participants, was strictly "embargoed." There would be no making photocopies of documents, no taking papers with them when they left. The federal officials and industry representatives had assembled to discuss a disturbing new study that raised alarming questions about the safety of a host of common childhood vaccines administered to infants and young children. According to a CDC epidemiologist named Tom Verstraeten, who had analyzed the agency's massive database containing the medical records of 100,000 children, a mercury-based preservative in the vaccines -- thimerosal -- appeared to be responsible for a dramatic increase in autism and a host of other neurological disorders among children. "I was actually stunned by what I saw," Verstraeten told those assembled at Simpsonwood, citing the staggering number of earlier studies that indicate a link between thimerosal and speech delays, attention-deficit disorder, hyperactivity and autism. Since 1991, when the CDC and the FDA had recommended that three additional vaccines laced with the preservative be given to extremely young infants -- in one case, within hours of birth -- the estimated number of cases of autism had increased fifteenfold, from one in every 2,500 children to one in 166 children. Even for scientists and doctors accustomed to confronting issues of life and death, the findings were frightening. "You can play with this all you want," Dr. Bill Weil, a consultant for the A
The main reason for the explosion in diagnosis of autism is a broadening of the definition, and a better understanding in general of the disorder. Yet, a lot of people still don't seem to get what autism is ( for example, people are searching for a 'cure' as if it were an illness ). Having said that, this is actually interesting. If the US is filling it's vaccines with mercury, then that's a little insane. The US also seems to give a lot more vaccines than other countries do, even vaccinating for things that wouldn't be so serious if a kid just got them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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The main reason for the explosion in diagnosis of autism is a broadening of the definition, and a better understanding in general of the disorder. Yet, a lot of people still don't seem to get what autism is ( for example, people are searching for a 'cure' as if it were an illness ). Having said that, this is actually interesting. If the US is filling it's vaccines with mercury, then that's a little insane. The US also seems to give a lot more vaccines than other countries do, even vaccinating for things that wouldn't be so serious if a kid just got them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
If the US is filling it's vaccines with mercury, then that's a little insane. The US also seems to give a lot more vaccines than other countries do, even vaccinating for things that wouldn't be so serious if a kid just got them.
Its just part of the softkill operations going on that is based on both eugenics and population control.
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Christian Graus wrote:
If the US is filling it's vaccines with mercury, then that's a little insane. The US also seems to give a lot more vaccines than other countries do, even vaccinating for things that wouldn't be so serious if a kid just got them.
Its just part of the softkill operations going on that is based on both eugenics and population control.
What a pile of crap. Here's a question. Ask yourself who you believe is behind this conspiracy to kill the children of America. Ask yourself why you think they want to put ALL children at risk. Then find out if their children have been vaccinated.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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The main reason for the explosion in diagnosis of autism is a broadening of the definition, and a better understanding in general of the disorder. Yet, a lot of people still don't seem to get what autism is ( for example, people are searching for a 'cure' as if it were an illness ). Having said that, this is actually interesting. If the US is filling it's vaccines with mercury, then that's a little insane. The US also seems to give a lot more vaccines than other countries do, even vaccinating for things that wouldn't be so serious if a kid just got them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
If the US is filling it's vaccines with mercury, then that's a little insane.
Many vaccines used to use a preservative called Thiomersal, a mercury compound. After complaints, the manufacturers conducted studies as to whether it was dangerous or not in the minuscule concentration that they used, found out that it wasn't, and took it out anyway. The annual rate of diagnosis still climbs.
Christian Graus wrote:
Yet, a lot of people still don't seem to get what autism is ( for example, people are searching for a 'cure' as if it were an illness ).
Apparently fever can significantly reduce the severity of autism; this isn't just a handful of anecdotes either, as it has been documented numerous times in scientific literature: like Behaviors Associated With Fever in Children With Autism Spectrum Disorders[^] in Pediatrics. It's pretty interesting.
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What a pile of crap. Here's a question. Ask yourself who you believe is behind this conspiracy to kill the children of America. Ask yourself why you think they want to put ALL children at risk. Then find out if their children have been vaccinated.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
It it to help prevent over population.
Christian Graus wrote:
Ask yourself why you think they want to put ALL children at risk.
Why did Hitler want to kill all the jews and take over the world?
Christian Graus wrote:
Then find out if their children have been vaccinated.
Their kids are probably vaccinated with the highest quality vaccinations available. Its kind of like comparing MSG, GMO, chemicalized food compared to organic.
Fine words from a gentleman.[^]
modified on Monday, July 27, 2009 11:45 AM
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Christian Graus wrote:
If the US is filling it's vaccines with mercury, then that's a little insane.
Many vaccines used to use a preservative called Thiomersal, a mercury compound. After complaints, the manufacturers conducted studies as to whether it was dangerous or not in the minuscule concentration that they used, found out that it wasn't, and took it out anyway. The annual rate of diagnosis still climbs.
Christian Graus wrote:
Yet, a lot of people still don't seem to get what autism is ( for example, people are searching for a 'cure' as if it were an illness ).
Apparently fever can significantly reduce the severity of autism; this isn't just a handful of anecdotes either, as it has been documented numerous times in scientific literature: like Behaviors Associated With Fever in Children With Autism Spectrum Disorders[^] in Pediatrics. It's pretty interesting.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Many vaccines used to use a preservative called Thiomersal, a mercury compound.
They still use it here.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
the manufacturers conducted studies as to whether it was dangerous or not in the minuscule concentration that they used, found out that it wasn't told us it wasn't to cover their asses, and took it out anyway (because they knew that we knew it was harmful.
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It it to help prevent over population.
Christian Graus wrote:
Ask yourself why you think they want to put ALL children at risk.
Why did Hitler want to kill all the jews and take over the world?
Christian Graus wrote:
Then find out if their children have been vaccinated.
Their kids are probably vaccinated with the highest quality vaccinations available. Its kind of like comparing MSG, GMO, chemicalized food compared to organic.
Fine words from a gentleman.[^]
modified on Monday, July 27, 2009 11:45 AM
wow a good example of doublethink, state a propersition then when its unmined make up an unsupported claim. oh and when pushed to support your stupid claims you dissapear
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Many vaccines used to use a preservative called Thiomersal, a mercury compound.
They still use it here.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
the manufacturers conducted studies as to whether it was dangerous or not in the minuscule concentration that they used, found out that it wasn't told us it wasn't to cover their asses, and took it out anyway (because they knew that we knew it was harmful.
It may be they are just targeting YOU and your relations and a lot on here would praise them for that
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wow a good example of doublethink, state a propersition then when its unmined make up an unsupported claim. oh and when pushed to support your stupid claims you dissapear
Alex hogarth wrote:
oh and when pushed to support your stupid claims you dissapear
Why should I try to help people like you?
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Alex hogarth wrote:
oh and when pushed to support your stupid claims you dissapear
Why should I try to help people like you?
Because like it or not, you need "people like him" to survive the days when the banks rise up from their tower blocks and team up with Godzilla to destroy people who refused the immunisations
Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow
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It it to help prevent over population.
Christian Graus wrote:
Ask yourself why you think they want to put ALL children at risk.
Why did Hitler want to kill all the jews and take over the world?
Christian Graus wrote:
Then find out if their children have been vaccinated.
Their kids are probably vaccinated with the highest quality vaccinations available. Its kind of like comparing MSG, GMO, chemicalized food compared to organic.
Fine words from a gentleman.[^]
modified on Monday, July 27, 2009 11:45 AM
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It it to help prevent over population.
And where is the proof of this ridiculous assertion ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Why did Hitler want to kill all the jews and take over the world?
Because he was anti semitic, he blamed the jews for germanies loss in WWI, and he wanted to reverse that and create a german empire. So ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Their kids are probably vaccinated with the highest quality vaccinations available. Its kind of like comparing MSG, GMO, chemicalized food compared to organic.
Do different levels of quality exist ? Are some vaccines not treated with mercury ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It it to help prevent over population.
And where is the proof of this ridiculous assertion ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Why did Hitler want to kill all the jews and take over the world?
Because he was anti semitic, he blamed the jews for germanies loss in WWI, and he wanted to reverse that and create a german empire. So ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Their kids are probably vaccinated with the highest quality vaccinations available. Its kind of like comparing MSG, GMO, chemicalized food compared to organic.
Do different levels of quality exist ? Are some vaccines not treated with mercury ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
And where is the proof of this ridiculous assertion ?
Well, you can start with John Holdren and his book Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment.
Christian Graus wrote:
So?
Don't act like its some wild conspiracy theory when nasty things really do happen throughout history. Now we have the crazies spouting about global warming, over population, and the need for eugenics. Hitler was democratically elected, and most people didn't believe (or didn't want to believe) that he was committing genocide.
Christian Graus wrote:
Do different levels of quality exist ? Are some vaccines not treated with mercury ?
If you actually would read the article or do some research of your own, you would learn that some countries have banned the use of mercury in vaccines. However mercury is just the tip of the iceburg. Take a look at this.[^]
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Christian Graus wrote:
And where is the proof of this ridiculous assertion ?
Well, you can start with John Holdren and his book Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment.
Christian Graus wrote:
So?
Don't act like its some wild conspiracy theory when nasty things really do happen throughout history. Now we have the crazies spouting about global warming, over population, and the need for eugenics. Hitler was democratically elected, and most people didn't believe (or didn't want to believe) that he was committing genocide.
Christian Graus wrote:
Do different levels of quality exist ? Are some vaccines not treated with mercury ?
If you actually would read the article or do some research of your own, you would learn that some countries have banned the use of mercury in vaccines. However mercury is just the tip of the iceburg. Take a look at this.[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, you can start with John Holdren and his book Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment.
How about you tell me what proof this book offers ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Don't act like its some wild conspiracy theory when nasty things really do happen throughout history.
What does this mean ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Now we have the crazies spouting about global warming, over population, and the need for eugenics.
over population is an absolute fact. That the earth is getting warmer, is an absolute fact, although I am not claiming there is no debate as to the level of human cause. No-one is calling for eugenics.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Hitler was democratically elected, and most people didn't believe (or didn't want to believe) that he was committing genocide.
Yes, that is true. So what ? You're saying that George Bush was really a Nazi ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
If you actually would read the article or do some research of your own, you would learn that some countries have banned the use of mercury in vaccines.
Unlike you, I have a job. I scanned the article. I even said that it sounded plausible, because the problem is not vaccines, but mercury, which does strike me as odd. What I don't accept, is that it's being deliberately done to kill people. That's where the burden of proof is on you, and where you are found wanting.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, you can start with John Holdren and his book Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment.
How about you tell me what proof this book offers ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Don't act like its some wild conspiracy theory when nasty things really do happen throughout history.
What does this mean ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Now we have the crazies spouting about global warming, over population, and the need for eugenics.
over population is an absolute fact. That the earth is getting warmer, is an absolute fact, although I am not claiming there is no debate as to the level of human cause. No-one is calling for eugenics.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Hitler was democratically elected, and most people didn't believe (or didn't want to believe) that he was committing genocide.
Yes, that is true. So what ? You're saying that George Bush was really a Nazi ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
If you actually would read the article or do some research of your own, you would learn that some countries have banned the use of mercury in vaccines.
Unlike you, I have a job. I scanned the article. I even said that it sounded plausible, because the problem is not vaccines, but mercury, which does strike me as odd. What I don't accept, is that it's being deliberately done to kill people. That's where the burden of proof is on you, and where you are found wanting.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
What I don't accept, is that it's being deliberately done to kill people. That's where the burden of proof is on you, and where you are found wanting.
You have to use your own goddamn brain! Read history books, learn psychology, learn about evil, learn about hitler, stalin, mao genocide. Mao exterminated about 49-78,000,000 of his own. http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html[^]. It happens over and over again and its going to happen again and again! Learn about power, learn about propaganda, learn about everything thats going on around the world, learn about central banking, its history, and the people behind it. Stop being such a useful idiot.
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Christian Graus wrote:
What I don't accept, is that it's being deliberately done to kill people. That's where the burden of proof is on you, and where you are found wanting.
You have to use your own goddamn brain! Read history books, learn psychology, learn about evil, learn about hitler, stalin, mao genocide. Mao exterminated about 49-78,000,000 of his own. http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html[^]. It happens over and over again and its going to happen again and again! Learn about power, learn about propaganda, learn about everything thats going on around the world, learn about central banking, its history, and the people behind it. Stop being such a useful idiot.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You have to use your own goddamn brain!
This is your code for 'you have to just make it up for yourself'. IF you want to prove something, you need to offer proof. Is that so complex ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Read history books, learn psychology, learn about evil, learn about hitler, stalin, mao genocide.
I am willing to bet that I know more about all of these things than you ever will. None of that proves anything you're trying to claim.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Mao exterminated about 49-78,000,000 of his own.
Stalin killed more people than Hitler did. I know.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It happens over and over again and its going to happen again and again!
Why are you sure it's going to happen again and again ? It's never happened in the USA, or Australia, or the UK, nor is it ever likely to. The internet also makes it less likely to happen in secret, than it did before.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Learn about power, learn about propaganda, learn about everything thats going on around the world, learn about central banking, its history, and the people behind it
This is just an ignorant rant from a moron. You can't prove anything that you claim, because it's mostly crap. So you spout the list of things you think you know, as if this constitutes any sort of proof. What you're saying is, there is no proof. There's some events in history which can be used by people predisposed to believe things without proof, as a sort of precedent.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Stop being such a useful idiot.
Well, at least I am of use to society.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You have to use your own goddamn brain!
This is your code for 'you have to just make it up for yourself'. IF you want to prove something, you need to offer proof. Is that so complex ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Read history books, learn psychology, learn about evil, learn about hitler, stalin, mao genocide.
I am willing to bet that I know more about all of these things than you ever will. None of that proves anything you're trying to claim.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Mao exterminated about 49-78,000,000 of his own.
Stalin killed more people than Hitler did. I know.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It happens over and over again and its going to happen again and again!
Why are you sure it's going to happen again and again ? It's never happened in the USA, or Australia, or the UK, nor is it ever likely to. The internet also makes it less likely to happen in secret, than it did before.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Learn about power, learn about propaganda, learn about everything thats going on around the world, learn about central banking, its history, and the people behind it
This is just an ignorant rant from a moron. You can't prove anything that you claim, because it's mostly crap. So you spout the list of things you think you know, as if this constitutes any sort of proof. What you're saying is, there is no proof. There's some events in history which can be used by people predisposed to believe things without proof, as a sort of precedent.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Stop being such a useful idiot.
Well, at least I am of use to society.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Is that so complex ?
I pointed you to John Holdren and one of his books, but you won't accept it. On the other hand, what you prove to all readers is that you are a total shithead. Unlike you, most people in this world have a soul.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Is that so complex ?
I pointed you to John Holdren and one of his books, but you won't accept it. On the other hand, what you prove to all readers is that you are a total shithead. Unlike you, most people in this world have a soul.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I pointed you to John Holdren and one of his books, but you won't accept it.
No, I asked you to give me a short cut and tell me what proof he offers in his book. The existence of a book means the existence of an opinion. If he offers proof, if he understands the burden of proof better than you, then I'd like to know about it. I've tried to give my time to one of your retarded conspiracy videos before, now I'd prefer a short cut to the actual proof, instead of having to read a whole book looking for it.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
On the other hand, what you prove to all readers is that you are a total s***head. Unlike you, most people in this world have a soul.
On what basis do you claim that I don't have a soul ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I pointed you to John Holdren and one of his books, but you won't accept it.
No, I asked you to give me a short cut and tell me what proof he offers in his book. The existence of a book means the existence of an opinion. If he offers proof, if he understands the burden of proof better than you, then I'd like to know about it. I've tried to give my time to one of your retarded conspiracy videos before, now I'd prefer a short cut to the actual proof, instead of having to read a whole book looking for it.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
On the other hand, what you prove to all readers is that you are a total s***head. Unlike you, most people in this world have a soul.
On what basis do you claim that I don't have a soul ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
On what basis do you claim that I don't have a soul ?
You are a sociopath socialist eugenicist. You are one hell of a nasty dangerous creature.
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Christian Graus wrote:
On what basis do you claim that I don't have a soul ?
You are a sociopath socialist eugenicist. You are one hell of a nasty dangerous creature.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are a sociopath socialist eugenicist.
Amusingly, I've asked you to tell me where you can prove this, and you always ignore it. This is you creating a straw man because you hate the fact that whatever you say, I am able to show that you have no evidence, and that your positions are based on ignorance. Why am I a eugenist ? How am I a socialist ? What makes me a sociopath ? What makes you think I have no soul ? Please respond only if you can answer. If you can't, please stop posting here on the basis that you must accept that everything you say, has no basis in fact, and cannot be in any way backed up by you if you're forced to examine it or defend it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.