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  • K Kevin McFarlane

    "Speaking with TechFlash, Opera Software CTO Hakon Wium Lie has questioned the use of the famous IE icon in a ballot screen Microsoft said it's willing to include in Windows." IE icon too familiar for Microsoft EU settlement?[^] I expected something like this as the next move. No doubt once this complaint is met they will complain that IE appears first in the list as it gives the market leader an unfair advantage. :omg:

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    hairy_hats
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    Hmmm, I don't see Lynx in that list. Anti-ASCII bias! :mad:

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    • K Kevin McFarlane

      "Speaking with TechFlash, Opera Software CTO Hakon Wium Lie has questioned the use of the famous IE icon in a ballot screen Microsoft said it's willing to include in Windows." IE icon too familiar for Microsoft EU settlement?[^] I expected something like this as the next move. No doubt once this complaint is met they will complain that IE appears first in the list as it gives the market leader an unfair advantage. :omg:

      Kevin

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      The whole thing is daft, it shouldn't have come to that in the first place, but you can't say any fairer than that dialog screenshot in the article.

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        Hmmm, I don't see Lynx in that list. Anti-ASCII bias! :mad:

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        Kevin McFarlane
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        Steve_Harris wrote:

        I don't see Lynx in that list

        The proposal is that only the top 5 browsers should appear in the list. Purely coincidentally, of course, Opera is currently No. 5.

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        • K Kevin McFarlane

          "Speaking with TechFlash, Opera Software CTO Hakon Wium Lie has questioned the use of the famous IE icon in a ballot screen Microsoft said it's willing to include in Windows." IE icon too familiar for Microsoft EU settlement?[^] I expected something like this as the next move. No doubt once this complaint is met they will complain that IE appears first in the list as it gives the market leader an unfair advantage. :omg:

          Kevin

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          March 12, 2010, AP European Bureau: In a surprise move today, Microsoft announced it was pulling out of Europe. "We've gotten tired of bending over backwards for these people, and we're also tired of financing their ill-conceived notions toward empire" stated an anonymous corporate representative. In the same announcement, Microsoft claimed that all European installations of Windows would shutdown automatically at noon. Technical advisors to this agency agree that this isn't poss---- CARRIER LOST

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          • K Kevin McFarlane

            "Speaking with TechFlash, Opera Software CTO Hakon Wium Lie has questioned the use of the famous IE icon in a ballot screen Microsoft said it's willing to include in Windows." IE icon too familiar for Microsoft EU settlement?[^] I expected something like this as the next move. No doubt once this complaint is met they will complain that IE appears first in the list as it gives the market leader an unfair advantage. :omg:

            Kevin

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            Stuart Jeffery
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            So the window in the screenshot is exactly what will appear on EU We7en? If so take a good look at the top left corner and the lovely blue e :laugh:

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            • K Kevin McFarlane

              "Speaking with TechFlash, Opera Software CTO Hakon Wium Lie has questioned the use of the famous IE icon in a ballot screen Microsoft said it's willing to include in Windows." IE icon too familiar for Microsoft EU settlement?[^] I expected something like this as the next move. No doubt once this complaint is met they will complain that IE appears first in the list as it gives the market leader an unfair advantage. :omg:

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              0x3c0
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              Can somebody please sue Opera Software for wasting users' time? I won't be using Opera more if they have a download link on their ballot screen. If anything I'll be staying away from it, because of the ridiculous measures they've taken to make sure they get first pick. Next proposal: "The ordering of the ballot list be backwards, to allow the smaller companies to get a piece of the market"

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                March 12, 2010, AP European Bureau: In a surprise move today, Microsoft announced it was pulling out of Europe. "We've gotten tired of bending over backwards for these people, and we're also tired of financing their ill-conceived notions toward empire" stated an anonymous corporate representative. In the same announcement, Microsoft claimed that all European installations of Windows would shutdown automatically at noon. Technical advisors to this agency agree that this isn't poss---- CARRIER LOST

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                I live in the EU and I would back microsoft if they did pull out. [rant] I think it's a stupid battle that really affects no-one. If I want another browser, I'll install it. If I don't want IE, I wont use it... I HAVE a choice.. gah Next they'll be complaining that you can't uninstall the startbar and write your own and that's SO unfair! [/rant]

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                  Can somebody please sue Opera Software for wasting users' time? I won't be using Opera more if they have a download link on their ballot screen. If anything I'll be staying away from it, because of the ridiculous measures they've taken to make sure they get first pick. Next proposal: "The ordering of the ballot list be backwards, to allow the smaller companies to get a piece of the market"

                  Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow

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                  Kevin McFarlane
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                  I do have Opera installed and have done since 1998. It's not my default but I do use it from time to time. However, I'm seriously considering dumping them. At the very least I ought to get around to sending them some stroppy feedback. They're just taking the piss now. Ironically, instead of Opera's bitching about Microsoft, they should ask themselves how Firefox has managed to get to 20+% market share while Opera is stuck at 1%. They should also be moaning about the way Google is pushing Chrome everywhere in big bold letters. We all go to www.google.com and right there is "install Chrome." Maybe if Chrome gets to 30% share?

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                  • K Kevin McFarlane

                    "Speaking with TechFlash, Opera Software CTO Hakon Wium Lie has questioned the use of the famous IE icon in a ballot screen Microsoft said it's willing to include in Windows." IE icon too familiar for Microsoft EU settlement?[^] I expected something like this as the next move. No doubt once this complaint is met they will complain that IE appears first in the list as it gives the market leader an unfair advantage. :omg:

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    What utter bollocks. It could also be argued that Google has an unfair advantage, because so many people appear to think that Google is the Internet.

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                      So the window in the screenshot is exactly what will appear on EU We7en? If so take a good look at the top left corner and the lovely blue e :laugh:

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                      That's what got me. It's an IE 8 window, so is IE 8 installed just to view it?

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                      • K Kevin McFarlane

                        "Speaking with TechFlash, Opera Software CTO Hakon Wium Lie has questioned the use of the famous IE icon in a ballot screen Microsoft said it's willing to include in Windows." IE icon too familiar for Microsoft EU settlement?[^] I expected something like this as the next move. No doubt once this complaint is met they will complain that IE appears first in the list as it gives the market leader an unfair advantage. :omg:

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                        Anthony Mushrow
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                        I just want to punch the guy in the face. You can't ask people not to use their logo. Imagine buying a new car that doesn't have the makers badge on it, just their name in small letters under the front bumper, so that people aren't more inclined to buy the make of car that's most popular.

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                        • K Kevin McFarlane

                          I do have Opera installed and have done since 1998. It's not my default but I do use it from time to time. However, I'm seriously considering dumping them. At the very least I ought to get around to sending them some stroppy feedback. They're just taking the piss now. Ironically, instead of Opera's bitching about Microsoft, they should ask themselves how Firefox has managed to get to 20+% market share while Opera is stuck at 1%. They should also be moaning about the way Google is pushing Chrome everywhere in big bold letters. We all go to www.google.com and right there is "install Chrome." Maybe if Chrome gets to 30% share?

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                          Anthony Mushrow
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                          Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                          We all go to www.google.com and right there is "install Chrome."

                          I found a way to get rid of that! Yeah, I just installed chrome ;P I quite like it though. I never really liked FireFox, mostly because all of the people that posted about it where so far up themselves, shame really.

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                          • M Mark_Wallace

                            What utter bollocks. It could also be argued that Google has an unfair advantage, because so many people appear to think that Google is the Internet.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            Kevin McFarlane
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                            Yep. Plus all their sites ask you to "download Chrome for a superior experience."

                            Kevin

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                              Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                              We all go to www.google.com and right there is "install Chrome."

                              I found a way to get rid of that! Yeah, I just installed chrome ;P I quite like it though. I never really liked FireFox, mostly because all of the people that posted about it where so far up themselves, shame really.

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                              Kevin McFarlane
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                              I have Chrome installed too, although I prefer Firefox. Though I must say that the most common reasons that people cite for choosing their favourite browser are not my reasons.

                              Kevin

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                              • K Kevin McFarlane

                                Yep. Plus all their sites ask you to "download Chrome for a superior experience."

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                                Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                Yep. Plus all their sites ask you to "download Chrome for a superior experience."

                                What, they add three inches?

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                                  Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                  Yep. Plus all their sites ask you to "download Chrome for a superior experience."

                                  What, they add three inches?

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                                  Kevin McFarlane
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                                  :confused:

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                                  • K Kevin McFarlane

                                    :confused:

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    Well, that's the kind of spam I normally get.

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                                    • K Kevin McFarlane

                                      "Speaking with TechFlash, Opera Software CTO Hakon Wium Lie has questioned the use of the famous IE icon in a ballot screen Microsoft said it's willing to include in Windows." IE icon too familiar for Microsoft EU settlement?[^] I expected something like this as the next move. No doubt once this complaint is met they will complain that IE appears first in the list as it gives the market leader an unfair advantage. :omg:

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                                      Pierre Leclercq
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                                      It's a shame! There is no way Europe will ever breed a company like MS. What a bunch of whiners!

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                                      • K Kevin McFarlane

                                        Steve_Harris wrote:

                                        I don't see Lynx in that list

                                        The proposal is that only the top 5 browsers should appear in the list. Purely coincidentally, of course, Opera is currently No. 5.

                                        Kevin

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        And yet the screenshot shows placeholders for browsers 6 and 7, and with enough right scroll to possibly leave room for number 8 as well. :rolleyes:

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                                          And yet the screenshot shows placeholders for browsers 6 and 7, and with enough right scroll to possibly leave room for number 8 as well. :rolleyes:

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                                          Kevin McFarlane
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                                          I know, but elsewhere I read that the proposal was for the top 5 browsers. I think Opera had suggested that a few weeks ago and then MS suggested the same.

                                          Kevin

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