Argh - C# can really SUCK !!!!

Christian Graus

Yes, but then it would be a question, and in the wrong forum, and.... Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

Christian Graus

Daniel Turini wrote: Probably you are passing the out parameter to a function as a non-out parameter. This is a no-no. No, I am not. I am doing exactly what I said I am doing. class A { void MyFunction(out int i) { string s = MyOtherFunc(); i = ParseString(s); } string MyOtherFunc()...; int ParseString()....; } int a; m_A.MyFunction(out a); This won't work unless I give i some value BEFORE calling MyOtherFunc. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

Christian Graus

Paul Watson wrote: Christian and I are both submitting SVG articles soon I better get going, mine is going to be very 'beginner', so I'll have to beat you for mine to be worth anything !!! Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

Christian Graus

I'm actually quite fine with that, it's the mix of that with the out being unpassable unless the first line of the function sets a value to the out parameter that had me frustrated, it meant I was damned either way. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

Christian Graus

George wrote: Why don't you use C++ (or MC++ for that matter) if you need something that works with asp.net instead of C#? I thought that was the whole point of MC++? Because a. MC++ is an abortion IMO b. You can't use MC++ within a page AFAIK. George wrote: And by the way - why are you wasting your time with asp as well? How is it a waste of time ? It's a powerful way to provide a presentation layer for most corporate apps nowadays - everyone has a browser. In any case, I like to learn new things and I like to increase my skills in areas that are interesting, or that pay. I will inevitably do ASP.NET in C# at work, so it seems wise to learn it first at home. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

Christian Graus

CodeGuy wrote: Although I do think the Standard is already weighed down by its own complexity. I think more attention should be given toward simplification of existing features rather than new libraries. I agree - I spoke with Herb recently about my feelings regarding his article, which I still think was little more than pimping MC++, although after speaking with him, I believe that he did not set out to write it with such a cynical goal. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

Christian Graus

Tomasz Sowinski wrote: You mean that out parameters can't be used in functions which call other functions?? No, they can be used, but the out parameter needs to be assigned a value before you call anything else. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

Daniel Turini

Well, you're doing something wrong (I love saying I'm right): This compiles and runs fine: using System; namespace cspteste { /// /// Summary description for Class1. /// class Class1 { class ATest { public void MyFunction(out int i) { string s = MyOtherFunc(); i = ParseString(s); } string MyOtherFunc() { return "50"; } int ParseString(string temp) { return Convert.ToInt32(temp); } } [STAThread] static void Main(string[] args) { ATest a = new ATest(); int x; a.MyFunction(out x); Console.WriteLine(x); } } } "In an organization, each person rises to the level of his own incompetence." Peter's Principle

Christian Graus

Daniel Turini wrote: Well, you're doing something wrong My wife tells me that ALL the time.... The code I posted was off the top of my head, but the actual code, which wouldn't compile until I gave i a value, was very similar, but bigger. I'll have to have a look when I get home, I *know* that every execution path gave 'i' a value, and the compiler error said I was not able to call external functions before assigning a value to i. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

Daniel Turini

Ok. Post it when you arrive home, I'm very curious about it. "In an organization, each person rises to the level of his own incompetence." Peter's Principle

leppie

Christian Graus wrote: but the out parameter needs to be assigned a value before you call anything else. This is a bit dumb, I just use ref most of the time. It does become handy when you want to re-use a variable, IOW say you have an int called var1, but the value has been assigned to it, now you pass that int as an out parameter, now the value wont be passed into the function , where a ref parameter would pass the value. I cant really think of an example from the top of my head though :) Cheers :) Give them a chance! Do it for the kittens, dear God, the kittens! As seen on MS File Transfer: Please enter an integer between 1 and 2.