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Why there is so few female programmers?

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  • N NormDroid

    It's because men have a higher degree of spatial awarness (The ability to picture things in the mind). Developing with C++ is like programming by the seat of your pants

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    Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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    my physics teacher calls this 3 dimensional conceptualisation :)


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      Heheh. There are 14 programmers here - 10 women and 4 men. Of the women - 8 of them are on Java, HTML and JSP(ughhhhhhhhh) Of the other two, one does PHP, VB and ASP And Smitha (Tweety) does C#, VB, PHP and ASP Of the 4 men, 3 of them do JSP and Java I am the 4th fellow and I do MFC, C++ and recently a little .NET (I was asked to do it using C#, but I chose MC++ ;-) ) Regards, Nish


      Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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      Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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      Nishant S wrote: And Smitha (Tweety) does C#, VBlearning, PHP and ASP :-D


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      • P peterchen

        :puts on asbestos: I think it's a brain-wiring thing. (Can we agree on women in general having a different wiring than men in general?) While a programmer needs to very creatively think "across borders" and in , absolute "problem focus" is what gets the job done. And while women tend to be better at the first, men are better on the latter. Classic programming is about absolute control - something very male. You have a subroutine you give your commands to, and if it doesn't obey, you not only discipline it to do *what* it has to do, but as well *how* it has to be done. (I think women would excel us completely at AI training - they are used to a more fuzzy "influence" type of control) That, or maybe they are just disgusted by the chixor fuxor suxor attitude that "surrounds" the the community.


        Auch den Schatten will ich lieben weil ich manchmal lieber frier'  Rosenstolz   [sighist]

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        l a u r e n
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        i find that you can train the logical a -> b -> c stuff into your brain by just hard work ... the a -> f -> d -> z comes naturally and makes for good solutions developing can i say this then ... *sniggaz* ... men _tend_ to be better at actually producing the code and stuff but chikkies _tend_ to be better at organizing the whole solution? *borrows asbestos suit* :)


        "... and so i said to him ... if it don't dance (or code) and you can't eat it either f**k it or throw it away"
        biz stuff   about me

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        • A Alex E

          I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders?

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          leppie
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          Alex E. wrote: I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders? Now if we could include the following in a language we would have 10 times more women programming:

          orswitch(var)
          {
          case 1|2|3|4|5|6|7:
          //do something, but dont break
          case 2|4|7|9|3:
          //do something else
          case 1|5|7|8:
          //ditto
          exceptioncase:
          //something is not like should be
          }

          Now if we can do that, we will have more women coders :laugh: Give them a chance! Do it for the kittens, dear God, the kittens! As seen on MS File Transfer: Please enter an integer between 1 and 2.

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            Alex E. wrote: I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders? Now if we could include the following in a language we would have 10 times more women programming:

            orswitch(var)
            {
            case 1|2|3|4|5|6|7:
            //do something, but dont break
            case 2|4|7|9|3:
            //do something else
            case 1|5|7|8:
            //ditto
            exceptioncase:
            //something is not like should be
            }

            Now if we can do that, we will have more women coders :laugh: Give them a chance! Do it for the kittens, dear God, the kittens! As seen on MS File Transfer: Please enter an integer between 1 and 2.

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            *lauren gets her gun out...*


            "... and so i said to him ... if it don't dance (or code) and you can't eat it either f**k it or throw it away"
            biz stuff   about me

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            • A Alex E

              I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders?

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              Tim Smith
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              They just don't post on computer geek boards because when they do, they start receiving strange love letters. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture

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                They just don't post on computer geek boards because when they do, they start receiving strange love letters. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture

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                Paul Watson
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                Tim Smith wrote: they start receiving strange love letters. Dear Timothy Smith, I am l337 4/\x0r on CP and find myself devilishly attracted to y.... ;P :laugh:

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
                Cape Town, South Africa

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                • A Alex E

                  I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders?

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                  Sylph
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                  wait and see.. in a few years... maybe us females will be asking the question.. why are there so few male programmers?... but the answer to that would probably be that we have out smarted the entire male race in EVERY field. ;P and to: "While a programmer needs to very creatively think "across borders" and in , absolute "problem focus" is what gets the job done. And while women tend to be better at the first, men are better on the latter." you obviously don't know many woman...woman are ALWAYS better on the latter :cool: :)

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                  • L l a u r e n

                    *lauren gets her gun out...*


                    "... and so i said to him ... if it don't dance (or code) and you can't eat it either f**k it or throw it away"
                    biz stuff   about me

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                    leppie
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                    lauren wrote: *lauren gets her gun out...* :exceptioncase :laugh: no seriously, I have the greatest respect for female programmers and there should be more! Give them a chance! Do it for the kittens, dear God, the kittens! As seen on MS File Transfer: Please enter an integer between 1 and 2.

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      Heheh. There are 14 programmers here - 10 women and 4 men. Of the women - 8 of them are on Java, HTML and JSP(ughhhhhhhhh) Of the other two, one does PHP, VB and ASP And Smitha (Tweety) does C#, VB, PHP and ASP Of the 4 men, 3 of them do JSP and Java I am the 4th fellow and I do MFC, C++ and recently a little .NET (I was asked to do it using C#, but I chose MC++ ;-) ) Regards, Nish


                      Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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                      Renjith Ramachandran
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                      BLAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BLAAAAAAA BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NISH IS FROM InApp Technologies,Technopark Trivandrum...?? ehhh.?????????????? blung blung i find ../////// yeahhhhhhhhh..?? Zwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooomzz..!! A Programmer Never Dies..***

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        Tim Smith wrote: they start receiving strange love letters. Dear Timothy Smith, I am l337 4/\x0r on CP and find myself devilishly attracted to y.... ;P :laugh:

                        Paul Watson
                        Bluegrass
                        Cape Town, South Africa

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                        Simon Walton
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                        Paul Watson wrote: I am l337 4/\x0r on CP and find myself devilishly attracted to y.... On /: perhaps. :D Although you did use some big words there...

                        Let Q = the set of all quotes, ever
                        S = {a: a € Q : a is funny, a is nerdy }
                        a1 a2...an

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                        • S Sylph

                          wait and see.. in a few years... maybe us females will be asking the question.. why are there so few male programmers?... but the answer to that would probably be that we have out smarted the entire male race in EVERY field. ;P and to: "While a programmer needs to very creatively think "across borders" and in , absolute "problem focus" is what gets the job done. And while women tend to be better at the first, men are better on the latter." you obviously don't know many woman...woman are ALWAYS better on the latter :cool: :)

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                          l a u r e n
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                          rok on sister! :cool:


                          "... and so i said to him ... if it don't dance (or code) and you can't eat it either f**k it or throw it away"
                          biz stuff   about me

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                          • P Paul Selormey

                            Simple, men are generally lazy, and will prefer just sitting down and looking into a screen (be it PC or whatever). Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                            Bruce Duncan
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                            That definitely applies to me :) (or should that be a :(( )

                            Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
                            'ugly naked women are good, when i'm not around, in front of someone else' - Shog9

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                            • R Renjith Ramachandran

                              BLAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BLAAAAAAA BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NISH IS FROM InApp Technologies,Technopark Trivandrum...?? ehhh.?????????????? blung blung i find ../////// yeahhhhhhhhh..?? Zwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooomzz..!! A Programmer Never Dies..***

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              :confused: So? My CP id is nish@inapp.com, and it's been that for a long while too. What's so mysterious about this? It's not the CIA is it ? ;-) Nish p.s. You are from Kollam? I vaguely remember you saying that once!


                              Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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                              • R Renjith Ramachandran

                                BLAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BLAAAAAAA BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NISH IS FROM InApp Technologies,Technopark Trivandrum...?? ehhh.?????????????? blung blung i find ../////// yeahhhhhhhhh..?? Zwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooomzz..!! A Programmer Never Dies..***

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                                leppie
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                                renjith -CP teckforce wrote: BLAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BLAAAAAAA BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NISH IS FROM InApp Technologies,Technopark Trivandrum...?? ehhh.?????????????? blung blung i find ../////// yeahhhhhhhhh..?? Zwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooomzz..!! A Programmer Never Dies..*** ...they just go CRAZY:laugh: Give them a chance! Do it for the kittens, dear God, the kittens! As seen on MS File Transfer: Please enter an integer between 1 and 2.

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                                • L l a u r e n

                                  i find that you can train the logical a -> b -> c stuff into your brain by just hard work ... the a -> f -> d -> z comes naturally and makes for good solutions developing can i say this then ... *sniggaz* ... men _tend_ to be better at actually producing the code and stuff but chikkies _tend_ to be better at organizing the whole solution? *borrows asbestos suit* :)


                                  "... and so i said to him ... if it don't dance (or code) and you can't eat it either f**k it or throw it away"
                                  biz stuff   about me

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                                  Bruce Duncan
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                                  lauren wrote: chikkies _tend_ to be better at organizing the whole solution Well, I have read that women, tend to be better a 'multitasking' than men.

                                  Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
                                  'ugly naked women are good, when i'm not around, in front of someone else' - Shog9

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                                  • R Renjith Ramachandran

                                    BLAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BLAAAAAAA BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NISH IS FROM InApp Technologies,Technopark Trivandrum...?? ehhh.?????????????? blung blung i find ../////// yeahhhhhhhhh..?? Zwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooomzz..!! A Programmer Never Dies..***

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                                    Ed Gadziemski
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                                    Who opened the door of the asylum and let you loose again?

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                                    • A Alex E

                                      I’m just wondering, why the majority of programmers are men? Why there is so few female coders?

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                                      Amit Dey
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                                      Cause somebody has to be responsible....right?:-D

                                      _'My capacity for happiness', he added, 'you could fit into a matchbox without taking out the matches first'.

                                      - Marvin, the robot.
                                      _Amit Dey sonork: 100:18407 msn: visualcdev

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                                      • B Bruce Duncan

                                        That definitely applies to me :) (or should that be a :(( )

                                        Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
                                        'ugly naked women are good, when i'm not around, in front of someone else' - Shog9

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                                        Paul Selormey
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                                        Count me in :(( Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                                          i find that you can train the logical a -> b -> c stuff into your brain by just hard work ... the a -> f -> d -> z comes naturally and makes for good solutions developing can i say this then ... *sniggaz* ... men _tend_ to be better at actually producing the code and stuff but chikkies _tend_ to be better at organizing the whole solution? *borrows asbestos suit* :)


                                          "... and so i said to him ... if it don't dance (or code) and you can't eat it either f**k it or throw it away"
                                          biz stuff   about me

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                                          you can compensate for almost every "deficiency" with hard work - however, if a->-b->c requires no cognitive load (i.e. it's an one clock machine instruction), it's much easier to arrive at z then when a->b is a subroutine. I would like to add to the "more female" approach's description: that in parallel "a->b->v->x" and "a->y->r->v" and many others are evaluated, and recognizing "z" as solution is sometimes an additional challenge. Not that "this is how man think and that how women think" - but IMO men are more prone to launch less threads, but devote almost all processing power to the onethat looks most promising; whereas women tend to launch more threads, and treat them more fairly. lauren wrote: can i say this then ... *sniggaz* no problem with that ;) yes if a min amount of the technical insight is there (which requires some experience with and prior dedication to the a->b->c processing). A good programmer, and a good project project manager, will need to have a fair amount of both, otherwise they are just code monkeys or clueless ties. Not to forget: women tend to be better at social skills (not always concious), which can do a great deal of project managment, too ;)


                                          Auch den Schatten will ich lieben weil ich manchmal lieber frier'  Rosenstolz   [sighist]

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