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    Rob Smiley
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    what this might mean in a tender we're doing: 'Passwords should not be echo-plexed' I can't find anything meaningful on google other than 'The process of checking the reception of sound for echoes' in Wiktionary:confused: Not sure how that relates to passwords... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

    "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind"

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      what this might mean in a tender we're doing: 'Passwords should not be echo-plexed' I can't find anything meaningful on google other than 'The process of checking the reception of sound for echoes' in Wiktionary:confused: Not sure how that relates to passwords... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

      "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind"

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      hairy_hats
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      Why not ask the people who wrote it in the first place?

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        what this might mean in a tender we're doing: 'Passwords should not be echo-plexed' I can't find anything meaningful on google other than 'The process of checking the reception of sound for echoes' in Wiktionary:confused: Not sure how that relates to passwords... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

        "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind"

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        It's an old (probably obsolete) term from the days of Visual Display Terminals. It means "should not be shown on the screen as they are typed". About one scroll down for definition[^]

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          what this might mean in a tender we're doing: 'Passwords should not be echo-plexed' I can't find anything meaningful on google other than 'The process of checking the reception of sound for echoes' in Wiktionary:confused: Not sure how that relates to passwords... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

          "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind"

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          Steve Dubyo
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          "echo-plexed" I think it has something to do with GhostBusters!

          ;-]

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            It's an old (probably obsolete) term from the days of Visual Display Terminals. It means "should not be shown on the screen as they are typed". About one scroll down for definition[^]

            No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. This message is made of fully recyclable Zeros and Ones

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            Rob Smiley
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            Many thanks! so it's a complicated way of saying a simple thing then...

            "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind"

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              Many thanks! so it's a complicated way of saying a simple thing then...

              "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind"

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              peterchen
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              Back in those days, that was the easy way to say it

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                Many thanks! so it's a complicated way of saying a simple thing then...

                "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind"

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                By the way that definition is worded, I would guess that this is more of a security issue. "Of course this is a security issue" you say? Well, it is more of a security issue than you are probably thinking... Are you aware that old CRT monitors can be read using electronics from up to about 50ft away....even from another room? The signal that displays the characters on a screen don't stop moving as soon as you see it. As a result, echoing what someone types back to the screen is potentially sharing that password with anyone that has the right equipment setup to sniff it out.

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                  what this might mean in a tender we're doing: 'Passwords should not be echo-plexed' I can't find anything meaningful on google other than 'The process of checking the reception of sound for echoes' in Wiktionary:confused: Not sure how that relates to passwords... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

                  "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind"

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                  The meaning that immediately poped into my mind was the tape delay echo machine that John Martyn used to use to create his incredible soundscapes - e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew6P_KoEPzc. A sadly missed musician I had the luck to see live a couple of times.

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                    By the way that definition is worded, I would guess that this is more of a security issue. "Of course this is a security issue" you say? Well, it is more of a security issue than you are probably thinking... Are you aware that old CRT monitors can be read using electronics from up to about 50ft away....even from another room? The signal that displays the characters on a screen don't stop moving as soon as you see it. As a result, echoing what someone types back to the screen is potentially sharing that password with anyone that has the right equipment setup to sniff it out.

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                    Dan Neely
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                    It's not just CRTs although the signals used to control the electron beam in them were much larger. Your DVI cable leaks RF as well. IIRC the same can be done with the signals on your keyboards USB cable, but a quick google check didn't turn anything up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Eck_phreaking[^]

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                      what this might mean in a tender we're doing: 'Passwords should not be echo-plexed' I can't find anything meaningful on google other than 'The process of checking the reception of sound for echoes' in Wiktionary:confused: Not sure how that relates to passwords... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

                      "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind"

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                      David Crow
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                      Well, the "-plex" suffix means to have multiple parts. So I would guess it means to not echo something to more than one spot.

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                        "echo-plexed" I think it has something to do with GhostBusters!

                        ;-]

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                        Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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                        No, that would be ecto-plexed... :-\ Flynn

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                          No, that would be ecto-plexed... :-\ Flynn

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                          Steve Dubyo
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                          Therein lies the pun! ;-]

                          ;-]

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