JOHN PILGER: OBAMA IS A CORPORATE MARKETING CREATION
-
Do your own fact checking. You poor lonely sap, don't you have a family to talk to or something?
Funny, I was just playing star wars with my son a moment ago, before my wife took him to school. Now I am working, and, again, I was at least as much interested in your false claims of fact checking, as the facts themselves. The new soapbox is discussion population control. A lot more sensibly and rationally than you're capable of. No, people do not all agree with me, but they at least respond to what I say and not their own insane theories.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
-
Funny, I was just playing star wars with my son a moment ago, before my wife took him to school. Now I am working, and, again, I was at least as much interested in your false claims of fact checking, as the facts themselves. The new soapbox is discussion population control. A lot more sensibly and rationally than you're capable of. No, people do not all agree with me, but they at least respond to what I say and not their own insane theories.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
but they at least respond to what I say and not their own insane theories.
I present nothing but facts, provable facts. What so called "theory" have I presented that I haven't specifically labeled as my own speculation?
-
Christian Graus wrote:
but they at least respond to what I say and not their own insane theories.
I present nothing but facts, provable facts. What so called "theory" have I presented that I haven't specifically labeled as my own speculation?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I present nothing but facts, provable facts.
Without any proof. What you've presented is the usual conspiracy theory, which, as I've said, veils itself in obscure facts which it then wildly misinterprets.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
-
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I present nothing but facts, provable facts.
Without any proof. What you've presented is the usual conspiracy theory, which, as I've said, veils itself in obscure facts which it then wildly misinterprets.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
What you've presented is the usual conspiracy theory
No, it is fact. You are just too lazy to do your own fact checking.
-
Christian Graus wrote:
What you've presented is the usual conspiracy theory
No, it is fact. You are just too lazy to do your own fact checking.
And you are apparently incapable of proving that you really did any fact checking rather than bleating on about it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
-
Funny, I was just playing star wars with my son a moment ago, before my wife took him to school. Now I am working, and, again, I was at least as much interested in your false claims of fact checking, as the facts themselves. The new soapbox is discussion population control. A lot more sensibly and rationally than you're capable of. No, people do not all agree with me, but they at least respond to what I say and not their own insane theories.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
-
Christian Graus wrote:
Funny, I was just playing star wars with my son a moment ago
You're back from Fiji already? How was it?
I wish I was as fortunate as fortunate as me
It was magic. Our bure was over the water, we had a ladder into the pacific. We got canapes delivered to the room every afternoon, three great restaurant meals a day, it was very relaxing. It was short because it was $1800 a night, and I only agreed to a short stay on that basis. But, it was well worth it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
-
Do your own fact checking. You poor lonely sap, don't you have a family to talk to or something?
This is why you do not have a degree. In a degree submission, you have to provide your proofs for the statements you make, whatever the subject. There we have it people, final proof that this moron is very undereducated. (The proof being he does not provide proofs, excuse the circular logic).
------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006
-
This is why you do not have a degree. In a degree submission, you have to provide your proofs for the statements you make, whatever the subject. There we have it people, final proof that this moron is very undereducated. (The proof being he does not provide proofs, excuse the circular logic).
------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006
Again, I already did my fact checking. I'd appreciate it if you all went through the effort to do your own. I spend a lot of time and effort on my research regardless of the subject being researched. I can give you compilations but I will not backtrack through weeks and months worth of research to try to educate you. I'm not a book writer, and I'm not a document archive, m'kay? :^)
-
Assuming everything he said is true. Did you do any fact checking, or is the fact that it's on youtube enough ? Of course, every leader nowadays is a marketing creation.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
fact that it's on youtube enough ?
There are times I really hate youtube. I think this is another reason why I do. Youtube is filled with junk and propaganda.
-
Christian Graus wrote:
fact that it's on youtube enough ?
There are times I really hate youtube. I think this is another reason why I do. Youtube is filled with junk and propaganda.
What is false about what John Pilger said?
-
What is false about what John Pilger said?
I don't know if it is or not because I can't see it because I'm at work and they have it blocked. X| So I went to Wikipedia. His fans supposedly include Chomsky who's been called anarchist, etc. I'm going to need more information, but can't right now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger#Praise_and_criticism[^] Chomsky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky#Political_views[^] Just a brief quote from wikipedia on him "he describes himself as a libertarian socialist". What exactly is a libertarian socialist? Why not stay away from labels and just explain your believes in the simplest of terms.
-
I don't know if it is or not because I can't see it because I'm at work and they have it blocked. X| So I went to Wikipedia. His fans supposedly include Chomsky who's been called anarchist, etc. I'm going to need more information, but can't right now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger#Praise_and_criticism[^] Chomsky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky#Political_views[^] Just a brief quote from wikipedia on him "he describes himself as a libertarian socialist". What exactly is a libertarian socialist? Why not stay away from labels and just explain your believes in the simplest of terms.
I couldn't care less who one of his fans are. When a guy says something and it makes sense, you cant say its false because of some minor irrelevance.
-
I don't know if it is or not because I can't see it because I'm at work and they have it blocked. X| So I went to Wikipedia. His fans supposedly include Chomsky who's been called anarchist, etc. I'm going to need more information, but can't right now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger#Praise_and_criticism[^] Chomsky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky#Political_views[^] Just a brief quote from wikipedia on him "he describes himself as a libertarian socialist". What exactly is a libertarian socialist? Why not stay away from labels and just explain your believes in the simplest of terms.
Chomsky actually is quite an inteligent fella, IMO. I don't think he's your stero-typical conspiracy theorist. For example, the last time I checked he didn't believe in a conspiracy behind the twin towers attacks. He does however have some views on how the world works which is basically that big business runs the show etc.
wolfbinary wrote:
libertarian socialist
I think he basically stands for the devolution of central power, and favours "power to the people", type set up, where people manage their own communities. To get rid of money, and let people just work at things they enjoy - kind of like Star Trek (:~ if you like that sort of thing). I don't think you can take everything he says as gospel, but some of his views and opinions do get you thinking, and make you look at things objectively. For example, the war in Iraq/Afghanistan: it all depends on which side of the fence you sit - one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter and all that. He argues that all press coverage of things like that (especially in the US) are all from one perspective. Although I know he has pissed a lot of people off, and some hate him more than Vista! Meh, but it's all about opinions. :-D
"...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"
-
Chomsky actually is quite an inteligent fella, IMO. I don't think he's your stero-typical conspiracy theorist. For example, the last time I checked he didn't believe in a conspiracy behind the twin towers attacks. He does however have some views on how the world works which is basically that big business runs the show etc.
wolfbinary wrote:
libertarian socialist
I think he basically stands for the devolution of central power, and favours "power to the people", type set up, where people manage their own communities. To get rid of money, and let people just work at things they enjoy - kind of like Star Trek (:~ if you like that sort of thing). I don't think you can take everything he says as gospel, but some of his views and opinions do get you thinking, and make you look at things objectively. For example, the war in Iraq/Afghanistan: it all depends on which side of the fence you sit - one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter and all that. He argues that all press coverage of things like that (especially in the US) are all from one perspective. Although I know he has pissed a lot of people off, and some hate him more than Vista! Meh, but it's all about opinions. :-D
"...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"
1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
the last time I checked he didn't believe in a conspiracy behind the twin towers attacks.
Al Qaeda was (or is) a CIA asset. Everybody knows that. It was a false-flag operation, swine flu is the next stage.
-
Again, I already did my fact checking. I'd appreciate it if you all went through the effort to do your own. I spend a lot of time and effort on my research regardless of the subject being researched. I can give you compilations but I will not backtrack through weeks and months worth of research to try to educate you. I'm not a book writer, and I'm not a document archive, m'kay? :^)
you googled at random and believed everything you read when you searched for terms that would only bring up conspiracy sites. Brilliant. Did you watch the youtube videos I referred you to ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
-
1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
the last time I checked he didn't believe in a conspiracy behind the twin towers attacks.
Al Qaeda was (or is) a CIA asset. Everybody knows that. It was a false-flag operation, swine flu is the next stage.
Everybody knows that, amongst your retarded conspiracy circles ? ROTFL !!!!
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
-
you googled at random and believed everything you read when you searched for terms that would only bring up conspiracy sites. Brilliant. Did you watch the youtube videos I referred you to ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Did you watch the youtube videos I referred you to ?
I watched part of the 11th Hour. All it was about is how people are a like an infection on the earth and how we must all die off to save the environment, it also demonized America. It was a bunch of total bullshit.
-
Christian Graus wrote:
Did you watch the youtube videos I referred you to ?
I watched part of the 11th Hour. All it was about is how people are a like an infection on the earth and how we must all die off to save the environment, it also demonized America. It was a bunch of total bullshit.
ROTFL !!! Well, it sounds like it's about on par with the video you gave me to watch then. Read this[^]. Short version, there's about an acre of arable land on earth, per person. Imagine now if you could sustain your lifestyle, growing meat, fruit, veg, fabrics, etc, all for yourself, on an acre of land. As China and India try to achieve the same lifestyle you enjoy, that's what needs to be possible, for that lifestyle to exist for you, and for them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
-
ROTFL !!! Well, it sounds like it's about on par with the video you gave me to watch then. Read this[^]. Short version, there's about an acre of arable land on earth, per person. Imagine now if you could sustain your lifestyle, growing meat, fruit, veg, fabrics, etc, all for yourself, on an acre of land. As China and India try to achieve the same lifestyle you enjoy, that's what needs to be possible, for that lifestyle to exist for you, and for them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
The solution to the over population thing is not governmental controls, but cause and effect. When the people who don't own land (city people) start to pay large amounts of money for their resources (supply and demand), they won't be able to go on like they do any longer. The land owners however, will be able to sustain themselves.