Filtering content. What do you prefer?
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Suppose you have a bunch of content you want to browse though. Suppose the content was tagged with attributes (eg language) and you want to specify a set of tags that interest you. What's your preferred method? 1. Specify the tags that interest me and show only content that has all these tags (eg a choice C# and WPF will not show content tagged only with C#) 2. Specify the tags that interest me and show content that contains at least one of these tags (eg setting C# and WPF as your selection will show content tagged with C# or with WPF or both) 3. Specify the tags that don't interest you. If the content contains any one of those tags then don't show it. 4. Hybrid: specify tags that interest you and tags that don't. Only content that contains a tag you like and doesn't contain any tags you dislike will be shown. 5. Have the system work it out. Show me everything and after I've clicked 10 items start building a list of stuff I like and dislike based on this.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Suppose you have a bunch of content you want to browse though. Suppose the content was tagged with attributes (eg language) and you want to specify a set of tags that interest you. What's your preferred method? 1. Specify the tags that interest me and show only content that has all these tags (eg a choice C# and WPF will not show content tagged only with C#) 2. Specify the tags that interest me and show content that contains at least one of these tags (eg setting C# and WPF as your selection will show content tagged with C# or with WPF or both) 3. Specify the tags that don't interest you. If the content contains any one of those tags then don't show it. 4. Hybrid: specify tags that interest you and tags that don't. Only content that contains a tag you like and doesn't contain any tags you dislike will be shown. 5. Have the system work it out. Show me everything and after I've clicked 10 items start building a list of stuff I like and dislike based on this.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Ummmmm - yes? Seriously - I think I'd go for 2 or 5 - I'm more interested in seeing things I have an interest in than in NOT seeing things I don't want to see.
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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Suppose you have a bunch of content you want to browse though. Suppose the content was tagged with attributes (eg language) and you want to specify a set of tags that interest you. What's your preferred method? 1. Specify the tags that interest me and show only content that has all these tags (eg a choice C# and WPF will not show content tagged only with C#) 2. Specify the tags that interest me and show content that contains at least one of these tags (eg setting C# and WPF as your selection will show content tagged with C# or with WPF or both) 3. Specify the tags that don't interest you. If the content contains any one of those tags then don't show it. 4. Hybrid: specify tags that interest you and tags that don't. Only content that contains a tag you like and doesn't contain any tags you dislike will be shown. 5. Have the system work it out. Show me everything and after I've clicked 10 items start building a list of stuff I like and dislike based on this.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
5 would blow. Because I'd always worry that it wasn't 'working it out' the way I wanted. I'd prefer a combination of 1 and 2. That is, I'd like to set when I want an AND and when I want an OR. It should be all or nothing, not a combination of ORs and ANDs, that's just too messy, I don't think that granularity is needed. I'm not sure if you need an exclusion list. If I search for ASP.NET AND C#, I am surely excluding VB.NET if the person who tagged it was remotely sensible about it ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Suppose you have a bunch of content you want to browse though. Suppose the content was tagged with attributes (eg language) and you want to specify a set of tags that interest you. What's your preferred method? 1. Specify the tags that interest me and show only content that has all these tags (eg a choice C# and WPF will not show content tagged only with C#) 2. Specify the tags that interest me and show content that contains at least one of these tags (eg setting C# and WPF as your selection will show content tagged with C# or with WPF or both) 3. Specify the tags that don't interest you. If the content contains any one of those tags then don't show it. 4. Hybrid: specify tags that interest you and tags that don't. Only content that contains a tag you like and doesn't contain any tags you dislike will be shown. 5. Have the system work it out. Show me everything and after I've clicked 10 items start building a list of stuff I like and dislike based on this.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
4, for sure. I do that on Google when I get a lot of false positives. So, if I search for "dragon" and I keep getting Bruce Lee pictures, I would then filter out Bruce Lee. Sort of gets rid of common garbage. Although, the ability to perform advanced searches would be nice: (WPF OR C#) AND (Josh Smith) AND NOT (Windows Forms OR COM)
Visual Studio is an excellent GUIIDE.
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5 would blow. Because I'd always worry that it wasn't 'working it out' the way I wanted. I'd prefer a combination of 1 and 2. That is, I'd like to set when I want an AND and when I want an OR. It should be all or nothing, not a combination of ORs and ANDs, that's just too messy, I don't think that granularity is needed. I'm not sure if you need an exclusion list. If I search for ASP.NET AND C#, I am surely excluding VB.NET if the person who tagged it was remotely sensible about it ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Kind of my feeling too. One thing I hate is a computer trying to be clever. It never works. Bad computer. Bad!
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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4, for sure. I do that on Google when I get a lot of false positives. So, if I search for "dragon" and I keep getting Bruce Lee pictures, I would then filter out Bruce Lee. Sort of gets rid of common garbage. Although, the ability to perform advanced searches would be nice: (WPF OR C#) AND (Josh Smith) AND NOT (Windows Forms OR COM)
Visual Studio is an excellent GUIIDE.
We already offer advanced searches like that within our search pages.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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4, for sure. I do that on Google when I get a lot of false positives. So, if I search for "dragon" and I keep getting Bruce Lee pictures, I would then filter out Bruce Lee. Sort of gets rid of common garbage. Although, the ability to perform advanced searches would be nice: (WPF OR C#) AND (Josh Smith) AND NOT (Windows Forms OR COM)
Visual Studio is an excellent GUIIDE.
aspdotnetdev wrote:
(WPF OR C#) AND (Josh Smith) AND NOT (Windows Forms OR COM)
IMO you need to weigh up just how often that is useful, against how much extra work it would be, which means a longer wait before we get the feature at all. I'd prefer the option of AND or OR searching, and then a chance to comment on a v2 feature like this. I never filter anything out with google, I just think of more terms that narrow the search.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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aspdotnetdev wrote:
(WPF OR C#) AND (Josh Smith) AND NOT (Windows Forms OR COM)
IMO you need to weigh up just how often that is useful, against how much extra work it would be, which means a longer wait before we get the feature at all. I'd prefer the option of AND or OR searching, and then a chance to comment on a v2 feature like this. I never filter anything out with google, I just think of more terms that narrow the search.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I made no consideration for how hard it would be to implement, I just was commenting on what I'd find most useful (even though I'd only use it in 1 out of every 200 searches). And if we're talking specifically about CodeProject, that type of search is almost never required, as the content is just not extensive enough to search through. For real world cases, option 4 would probably be the easiest and would satisfy most people without ticking off others. Although, aside from filtering, sorting is something else to consider. Perhaps sort things that match more keywords nearer to the top. But then we're getting deeper into search algorithms and that can get pretty in-depth (Google made an entire business out of it). And I don't often use the google exclusion feature myself, as I mostly know what I'm looking for... I find it most useful when I don't really know what I'm looking for (only what I'm not looking for).
Visual Studio is an excellent GUIIDE.
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Suppose you have a bunch of content you want to browse though. Suppose the content was tagged with attributes (eg language) and you want to specify a set of tags that interest you. What's your preferred method? 1. Specify the tags that interest me and show only content that has all these tags (eg a choice C# and WPF will not show content tagged only with C#) 2. Specify the tags that interest me and show content that contains at least one of these tags (eg setting C# and WPF as your selection will show content tagged with C# or with WPF or both) 3. Specify the tags that don't interest you. If the content contains any one of those tags then don't show it. 4. Hybrid: specify tags that interest you and tags that don't. Only content that contains a tag you like and doesn't contain any tags you dislike will be shown. 5. Have the system work it out. Show me everything and after I've clicked 10 items start building a list of stuff I like and dislike based on this.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
1 and 2 please with the possible option of adding tags for both the content provider and searcher (looker-for-er in some dialects) OT: Welcome back! how was your trip?
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1 and 2 please with the possible option of adding tags for both the content provider and searcher (looker-for-er in some dialects) OT: Welcome back! how was your trip?
If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?
Italy is awesome, as always. I'm suffering espresso withdrawals and our dodgy coffee machine in the office is struggling to keep up with my cravings. Ah, back to reality... :(
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Suppose you have a bunch of content you want to browse though. Suppose the content was tagged with attributes (eg language) and you want to specify a set of tags that interest you. What's your preferred method? 1. Specify the tags that interest me and show only content that has all these tags (eg a choice C# and WPF will not show content tagged only with C#) 2. Specify the tags that interest me and show content that contains at least one of these tags (eg setting C# and WPF as your selection will show content tagged with C# or with WPF or both) 3. Specify the tags that don't interest you. If the content contains any one of those tags then don't show it. 4. Hybrid: specify tags that interest you and tags that don't. Only content that contains a tag you like and doesn't contain any tags you dislike will be shown. 5. Have the system work it out. Show me everything and after I've clicked 10 items start building a list of stuff I like and dislike based on this.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Dunno, I probably wouldn't take advantage of it anyway.
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Italy is awesome, as always. I'm suffering espresso withdrawals and our dodgy coffee machine in the office is struggling to keep up with my cravings. Ah, back to reality... :(
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I sympathize. I've had a similar problem when I came back from France. Actually I find that the problem repeats itself when I come back to Jordan from anywhere. Have you tried, giving it the boot? I find that works on people sometimes...
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I sympathize. I've had a similar problem when I came back from France. Actually I find that the problem repeats itself when I come back to Jordan from anywhere. Have you tried, giving it the boot? I find that works on people sometimes...
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You mean giving up delicious, aromatic, life giving espresso?? I'm going to pretend you never suggested that.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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You mean giving up delicious, aromatic, life giving espresso?? I'm going to pretend you never suggested that.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Are you posting any pictures? BTW: Check out the Bing picture of the day.
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Are you posting any pictures? BTW: Check out the Bing picture of the day.
I'll try and get some pics. Pretty low key this year, though. Bing: Awesome! However, the stats are 14,2 km, 930m, 6,5%, so not something we'd go out of our way to bag. We were slack this year so next year (if it's possible) we'll be on a Mission.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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You mean giving up delicious, aromatic, life giving espresso?? I'm going to pretend you never suggested that.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
giving up delicious, aromatic, life giving espresso??
Perish the very thought! :omg::wtf: I meant a helping boot to the tuckus to make it work properly!
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Suppose you have a bunch of content you want to browse though. Suppose the content was tagged with attributes (eg language) and you want to specify a set of tags that interest you. What's your preferred method? 1. Specify the tags that interest me and show only content that has all these tags (eg a choice C# and WPF will not show content tagged only with C#) 2. Specify the tags that interest me and show content that contains at least one of these tags (eg setting C# and WPF as your selection will show content tagged with C# or with WPF or both) 3. Specify the tags that don't interest you. If the content contains any one of those tags then don't show it. 4. Hybrid: specify tags that interest you and tags that don't. Only content that contains a tag you like and doesn't contain any tags you dislike will be shown. 5. Have the system work it out. Show me everything and after I've clicked 10 items start building a list of stuff I like and dislike based on this.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Aha. That is a 64 million dollar question I have been asking myself when reflecting on the new Q&A system that might one day be inflicted on us. IMO the answer to this question will make or break the system all the way. Anyway, my answer on your question isn't going to be simple. And some of it may come as a shock. The short answer is: absolutely not 3 and 5; and not really 2 and 4; and 1 only for searches. And now for the long answer. I must urge you to take a seat and take your time. If it is about articles, messages, Q&A, tips, etc and one's intent is to learn something new, then I would like to do a search which implies I can give words (or better yet partial words) and the default is an AND operator; although I would also want the OR and NOT operators and parentheses to be available. And then I would like to be able to sort the results any way I like, by date, by author, by tags, by type, or by your relevance. If it is about an answering session, i.e. a heap (maybe cloud is the current buzzword) of questions on different topics, which one is going to read and maybe answer, then my current thinking leads to the following specs: 1. There are only some categories I want to see (C#, VB.NET, Algorithms, ..., but not Perl, not Apache, not SilverLight, ...); the NOTs are absolute, it really is ... AND NOT ... AND NOT ... There is no OR yet. 2. I want to see them somewhat categorized by topic (I don't want to switch languages every 15 seconds); I'll start with C#, then do VB.NET, then Databases, then ... Still no OR. Getting them categorized is most important for the first session in a day, when I tend to read over 100 questions, not just the latest few. 3. within such category-based selection I want to see them sorted by datetime (as posters often seem to publish related questions in a matter of hours, I want to see those in chronological order, which probably means I need the ability to set the starting point) 4. Under no circumstance do I want to see the same item more than once (unless I make a mistake and ask for a replay), so when a message is tagged both C# and Database, then it should be very easy to see C# messages, and later Database messages without seeing some twice. I would accept a button (or checkbox) to get this implemented ("Don't show me this again unless something inside has changed", as the thread could have grown since my last visit) I expect none of your suggested ways would fulfill these specs; you promised a solution to the cross-post problem, but so
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Suppose you have a bunch of content you want to browse though. Suppose the content was tagged with attributes (eg language) and you want to specify a set of tags that interest you. What's your preferred method? 1. Specify the tags that interest me and show only content that has all these tags (eg a choice C# and WPF will not show content tagged only with C#) 2. Specify the tags that interest me and show content that contains at least one of these tags (eg setting C# and WPF as your selection will show content tagged with C# or with WPF or both) 3. Specify the tags that don't interest you. If the content contains any one of those tags then don't show it. 4. Hybrid: specify tags that interest you and tags that don't. Only content that contains a tag you like and doesn't contain any tags you dislike will be shown. 5. Have the system work it out. Show me everything and after I've clicked 10 items start building a list of stuff I like and dislike based on this.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
4, and the ability to apply tags (the same or new ones) iteratively to successive result sets (to avoid having to go back to the beginning if I forget to specify a tag).
Best wishes, Hans
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Suppose you have a bunch of content you want to browse though. Suppose the content was tagged with attributes (eg language) and you want to specify a set of tags that interest you. What's your preferred method? 1. Specify the tags that interest me and show only content that has all these tags (eg a choice C# and WPF will not show content tagged only with C#) 2. Specify the tags that interest me and show content that contains at least one of these tags (eg setting C# and WPF as your selection will show content tagged with C# or with WPF or both) 3. Specify the tags that don't interest you. If the content contains any one of those tags then don't show it. 4. Hybrid: specify tags that interest you and tags that don't. Only content that contains a tag you like and doesn't contain any tags you dislike will be shown. 5. Have the system work it out. Show me everything and after I've clicked 10 items start building a list of stuff I like and dislike based on this.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Suppose you have a bunch of content you want to browse though. Suppose the content was tagged with attributes (eg language) and you want to specify a set of tags that interest you. What's your preferred method? 1. Specify the tags that interest me and show only content that has all these tags (eg a choice C# and WPF will not show content tagged only with C#) 2. Specify the tags that interest me and show content that contains at least one of these tags (eg setting C# and WPF as your selection will show content tagged with C# or with WPF or both) 3. Specify the tags that don't interest you. If the content contains any one of those tags then don't show it. 4. Hybrid: specify tags that interest you and tags that don't. Only content that contains a tag you like and doesn't contain any tags you dislike will be shown. 5. Have the system work it out. Show me everything and after I've clicked 10 items start building a list of stuff I like and dislike based on this.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
4. if it's implemented easily (i.e. it's simple for me to enter) so I can look for C# GRID -ASP.NET if I am looking for Winforms and WPF grid stuff in C# - but I don't want ONLY Winforms AND WPF
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