Paranoia and Plain Dumb
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So you want to let a small group of powerful people snatch people's children and bankrupt the parents. I get it. You want to use the money that they stole from the parents to sterilize the children and fund the child snatching operations and the child dormitories that the children will be forced to live in from birth. You are John P. Holdren would make a good couple.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So you want to let a small group of powerful people snatch people's children and bankrupt the parents.
I see now that perhaps the circles you move within are not all nutjobs. Perhaps you misrepresent them the same way you do me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You want to use the money that they stole from the parents to sterilize the children and fund the child snatching operations and the child dormitories that the children will be forced to live in from birth
Wow - the possibility of kids being moved from their parents does not even remotely exist in anything I have ever said.
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Hey, I don't make up this stuff. Read John P. Holdren's book "Ecoscience: Population, Resources, and Envirnment" He calls for mass sterilization and strict population controls managed by a planetary regime. John P. Holdren is Uh'boom'buh's science and technology czar.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Hey, I don't make up this stuff. Read John P. Holdren's book "Ecoscience: Population, Resources, and Envirnment" He calls for mass sterilization and strict population controls managed by a planetary regime.
And on what basis do you continue to assume that I agree with him, despite my saying otherwise ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So you want to let a small group of powerful people snatch people's children and bankrupt the parents. I get it. You want to use the money that they stole from the parents to sterilize the children and fund the child snatching operations and the child dormitories that the children will be forced to live in from birth. You are John P. Holdren would make a good couple.
You seriously need professional help... go get some... please...
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Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So you want to let a small group of powerful people snatch people's children and bankrupt the parents.
I see now that perhaps the circles you move within are not all nutjobs. Perhaps you misrepresent them the same way you do me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You want to use the money that they stole from the parents to sterilize the children and fund the child snatching operations and the child dormitories that the children will be forced to live in from birth
Wow - the possibility of kids being moved from their parents does not even remotely exist in anything I have ever said.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
The more I read his replies to your posts, the more I'm convinced that he is an utter blithering idiot that is suffering from serious delusions of grandeur of having a double digit IQ. I am completely amazed at how he purposefully rewords everything to complete support his point of view which in itself is built on some of the shakiest foundations ever created for any argument in the history of debating. If he ever decides to take you up your offer to pay for his much needed psychiatric help, I'll split the bill with you.
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I bet you believe people should have to buy a permit from the government to post online.
I bet you cannot explain why the majority of the brainwashed and 'subverted generations' of Russians, Poles, Germans, Czechs, Hungarians, et al, were so keen to renounce Soviet ideology and adopt capitalism.
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
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I bet you believe people should have to buy a permit from the government to post online.
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The more I read his replies to your posts, the more I'm convinced that he is an utter blithering idiot that is suffering from serious delusions of grandeur of having a double digit IQ. I am completely amazed at how he purposefully rewords everything to complete support his point of view which in itself is built on some of the shakiest foundations ever created for any argument in the history of debating. If he ever decides to take you up your offer to pay for his much needed psychiatric help, I'll split the bill with you.
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On the subject of Christian being an authoritarian, abortion and sterilisation loving, eugenicist, he is merely winding Christian up. It is the equivalent of an eight year old's, "I know you are, but what am I?". I have suggested to Christian that he does not take the bait, but it appears to be a point of honour with him to deny that he is what he so obviously is not.
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
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So you want an enforced one child policy and severe penalties for babies. You are a sicko.
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Hey, I don't make up this stuff. Read John P. Holdren's book "Ecoscience: Population, Resources, and Envirnment" He calls for mass sterilization and strict population controls managed by a planetary regime. John P. Holdren is Uh'boom'buh's science and technology czar.
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I bet you cannot explain why the majority of the brainwashed and 'subverted generations' of Russians, Poles, Germans, Czechs, Hungarians, et al, were so keen to renounce Soviet ideology and adopt capitalism.
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
Bob Emmett wrote:
I bet you cannot explain why the majority of the brainwashed and 'subverted generations' of Russians, Poles, Germans, Czechs, Hungarians, et al, were so keen to renounce Soviet ideology and adopt capitalism.
They woke up.
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I bet you cannot explain why Uncle Alex needs to misrepresent facts in order to support his theories.
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
He doesn't.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He calls for mass sterilization and strict population controls managed by a planetary regime.
You either haven't read it, or you didn't understand it.
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
Here "A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men. The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births." "Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime—sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable, at least insofar as international implications exist. Thus the Regime could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but also in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes that cross international boundaries or that discharge into the oceans. The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market. The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries' shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits. If this could be accomplished, security might be provided by an armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force. Many people have recognized this as a goal, but the way to reach it remains obscure in a world where factionalism seems, if anything, to be increasing. The first step necessarily involves partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization. " and it goes on and on, its a big book.
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Here "A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men. The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births." "Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime—sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable, at least insofar as international implications exist. Thus the Regime could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but also in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes that cross international boundaries or that discharge into the oceans. The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market. The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries' shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits. If this could be accomplished, security might be provided by an armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force. Many people have recognized this as a goal, but the way to reach it remains obscure in a world where factionalism seems, if anything, to be increasing. The first step necessarily involves partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization. " and it goes on and on, its a big book.
And what you don't understand is that it is a presentation of a second to worst possible scenario and used entirely as a message of exactly why we should take preventative measures now rather than letting it get that bad. I'm not sure why so many people have a hard time realizing that, this isn't exactly something people hope for you know, it's put out there to smack people upside the head and attempt to make them realize their choices impact others.
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And what you don't understand is that it is a presentation of a second to worst possible scenario and used entirely as a message of exactly why we should take preventative measures now rather than letting it get that bad. I'm not sure why so many people have a hard time realizing that, this isn't exactly something people hope for you know, it's put out there to smack people upside the head and attempt to make them realize their choices impact others.
Hitler said something similar. Have you ever read his writings?
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Here "A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men. The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births." "Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime—sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable, at least insofar as international implications exist. Thus the Regime could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but also in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes that cross international boundaries or that discharge into the oceans. The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market. The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries' shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits. If this could be accomplished, security might be provided by an armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force. Many people have recognized this as a goal, but the way to reach it remains obscure in a world where factionalism seems, if anything, to be increasing. The first step necessarily involves partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization. " and it goes on and on, its a big book.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and it goes on and on, its a big book.
Yes, they are discussing options. And what was their conclusion - can you tell me that?
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
Bob Emmett wrote:
And what was their conclusion - can you tell me that?
That is their conclusion.
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Bob Emmett wrote:
I bet you cannot explain why the majority of the brainwashed and 'subverted generations' of Russians, Poles, Germans, Czechs, Hungarians, et al, were so keen to renounce Soviet ideology and adopt capitalism.
They woke up.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They woke up.
This is from an experienced high-level intelligence operative. This amazing interview was done back in 1985 with a former KGB agent who was trained in subversion techniques. He explains the 4 basic steps to socially engineering entire generations into thinking and behaving the way those in power want them to. It's shocking because our nation has been transformed in the exact same way, and followed the exact same steps. And yet, just like that, they 'wake up'. :rolleyes: People behave in the way those in power want them to merely from fear of punishment, but they continue to think what they bloody well like. When the threat is removed, their thoughts are transformed into actions.
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They woke up.
This is from an experienced high-level intelligence operative. This amazing interview was done back in 1985 with a former KGB agent who was trained in subversion techniques. He explains the 4 basic steps to socially engineering entire generations into thinking and behaving the way those in power want them to. It's shocking because our nation has been transformed in the exact same way, and followed the exact same steps. And yet, just like that, they 'wake up'. :rolleyes: People behave in the way those in power want them to merely from fear of punishment, but they continue to think what they bloody well like. When the threat is removed, their thoughts are transformed into actions.
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
Bob Emmett wrote:
People behave in the way those in power want them to merely from fear of punishment, but they continue to think what they bloody well like. When the threat is removed, their thoughts are transformed into actions.
More sophisticated psychological tactics are used to manipulate people. Think of society as a machine that can be controlled and manipulated. Think of a person who only knows how to use a computer but doesn't begin to comprehend how it works or how its made. The only difference is that society is the computer and you are the moron.
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He doesn't.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He doesn't.
I am afraid he does. He takes statements out of context, and he edits them so as to fit whatever he is peddling to the gullible. However, I have work to do, and then a bed to go to. But I will have some time to spare in the next couple of days to provide the proof.
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
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Bob Emmett wrote:
People behave in the way those in power want them to merely from fear of punishment, but they continue to think what they bloody well like. When the threat is removed, their thoughts are transformed into actions.
More sophisticated psychological tactics are used to manipulate people. Think of society as a machine that can be controlled and manipulated. Think of a person who only knows how to use a computer but doesn't begin to comprehend how it works or how its made. The only difference is that society is the computer and you are the moron.
This amazing interview was done back in 1985 with a former KGB agent who was trained in subversion techniques. He explains the 4 basic steps to socially engineering entire generations into thinking and behaving the way those in power want them to. It's shocking because our nation has been transformed in the exact same way, and followed the exact same steps.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
More sophisticated psychological tactics are used to manipulate people.
Yes, as you stated in your original post. And yet, just like that, they 'wake up'. :rolleyes:
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Think of society as a machine that can be controlled and manipulated.
But that is simplistic 1950s thinking, not sophisticated. It is how the Soviets viewed society, and look where it got them.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Think of a person who only knows how to use a computer but doesn't begin to comprehend how it works or how its made.
You?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The only difference is that society is the computer and you are the moron.
No, I'm afraid that anyone who has not developed beyond 1950s thinking is the moron.
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.