Developer vs Programmer
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Dear Sirs, I see this forboding warning up top "DO NOT POST PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS HERE," so I will warily proceed. If I were to think of a title for myself, why might I choose `Developer' over `Programmer' or vice versa? What do they mean? More than their denotation, what do they connote? Thanks.
In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com
Pretty much what everyone else says. A Developer develops. They take concepts and ideas and formulate them into systems, processes and code. Programmers just basicaly code, normally to a spec. Don't think round the box or the consequances of a problem. Everyone starts as a programer :D but only some become true developers.
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programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v serverpeterchen wrote:
programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code
programmer = converts specification and pizza into code. developer = converts requirements and pizza into code. architect = converts requirements and nail varnish into specifications. FFY. :)
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programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v serverDon't forget the coffee/caffeinated soft drink. Requirements conversion requires lots of liquid caffeine.
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
In my country “Designer” is synonym of “Gay”
Ohhh!! :omg: and which country?
Believe Yourself™
Bulgaria.
The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
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Don't forget the coffee/caffeinated soft drink. Requirements conversion requires lots of liquid caffeine.
What thso world needs is coffeinated pizza!
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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Don't forget the coffee/caffeinated soft drink. Requirements conversion requires lots of liquid caffeine.
I find that regulating the amount of blood in my caffeine stream is the most important activity. Speaking of which, think I need to change the IV drip for a new bag-o-caff.
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I find that regulating the amount of blood in my caffeine stream is the most important activity. Speaking of which, think I need to change the IV drip for a new bag-o-caff.
Stuart Jeffery wrote:
I find that regulating the amount of blood in my caffeine stream is the most important activity.
I agree. :)
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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Pirates vs Ninjas is a very specialised operation.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
It’s also very messy considering nunchakos versus cannons.
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Dear Sirs, I see this forboding warning up top "DO NOT POST PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS HERE," so I will warily proceed. If I were to think of a title for myself, why might I choose `Developer' over `Programmer' or vice versa? What do they mean? More than their denotation, what do they connote? Thanks.
In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Then there's the whole "Architect" title, which is just a fancy way of saying "Designer,"
In my country “Designer” is synonym of “Gay”. So, do we have any Architects here? :-D
The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
Deyan Georgiev wrote:
In my country “Designer” is synonym of “Gay”.
There, it reads much better now.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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Dear Sirs, I see this forboding warning up top "DO NOT POST PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS HERE," so I will warily proceed. If I were to think of a title for myself, why might I choose `Developer' over `Programmer' or vice versa? What do they mean? More than their denotation, what do they connote? Thanks.
In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com
I don't think there's a bit of difference except in the minds of our paymasters for whom we adjust our titles to maximize our perceived utility. Computer Programmer Software Developer Software Engineer All the same. I actually prefer Computer Programmer since a) non-computer people know what your talking about and b) it doesn't sound pretentious. However, I've learned that managers like the title Software Engineer since it sounds important, so I use it. (In some places Software Architect sounds even more important though I shun it since I know too many horrible engineers/developers/programmers for whom this is a refuge from their suckiness.)
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Pretty much what everyone else says. A Developer develops. They take concepts and ideas and formulate them into systems, processes and code. Programmers just basicaly code, normally to a spec. Don't think round the box or the consequances of a problem. Everyone starts as a programer :D but only some become true developers.
When Donald Knuth was asked this question some 13 years ago, his response was: The difference between a computer programmer and a computer scientist is a job-title thing. Edsgar Dijkstra wants proudly to be called a ‘computer programmer,’ although he hasn’t touched a computer now for some years. He wrote his really terrific essay on the Humble Programmer discussing this. To me, ‘computer programmer’ is an honorable term, but to some people a computer programmer is somebody who just follows instructions without understanding what he’s doing, one who just knows how to get through the idiosyncrasies of some language.
"Old age is like a bank account. You withdraw later in life what you have deposited along the way." - Unknown
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
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Dear Sirs, I see this forboding warning up top "DO NOT POST PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS HERE," so I will warily proceed. If I were to think of a title for myself, why might I choose `Developer' over `Programmer' or vice versa? What do they mean? More than their denotation, what do they connote? Thanks.
In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com
Dear Sirs, Thanks for your replies! Now I know what to put on my card:
Software Developer, Architect, Engineer, Designer, and Programmer
Because I not only have to manage the small aspects of my code (programming), but I also write my own algorithms, and I manage the design of the programs at the largest scale. Thanks especially for the puns, I can't get enough of them!
In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com
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When Donald Knuth was asked this question some 13 years ago, his response was: The difference between a computer programmer and a computer scientist is a job-title thing. Edsgar Dijkstra wants proudly to be called a ‘computer programmer,’ although he hasn’t touched a computer now for some years. He wrote his really terrific essay on the Humble Programmer discussing this. To me, ‘computer programmer’ is an honorable term, but to some people a computer programmer is somebody who just follows instructions without understanding what he’s doing, one who just knows how to get through the idiosyncrasies of some language.
"Old age is like a bank account. You withdraw later in life what you have deposited along the way." - Unknown
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
Programming has become easier, but development has become more difficult.
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peterchen wrote:
programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code
programmer = converts specification and pizza into code. developer = converts requirements and pizza into code. architect = converts requirements and nail varnish into specifications. FFY. :)
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
[My articles]Yup, that's in my line of thought.
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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Dear Sirs, Thanks for your replies! Now I know what to put on my card:
Software Developer, Architect, Engineer, Designer, and Programmer
Because I not only have to manage the small aspects of my code (programming), but I also write my own algorithms, and I manage the design of the programs at the largest scale. Thanks especially for the puns, I can't get enough of them!
In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com
In my card I put "Developer! Developer! Developer!" when I want to work in a microsoft shop.
-- Miguel A. Vilariño Software Developer
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In my card I put "Developer! Developer! Developer!" when I want to work in a microsoft shop.
-- Miguel A. Vilariño Software Developer
I think you left off a "Developer!" -- the most important one too.
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programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v serverengineer = converts half a mile of Cu wire, 6 oz of silicon, and gallons of beer into 40,000 developer/programmer jobs.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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engineer = converts half a mile of Cu wire, 6 oz of silicon, and gallons of beer into 40,000 developer/programmer jobs.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
Who in turn overburden the device with demands that forces the engineer to consume more beer to produce a faster one ...
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