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  • M Marc Clifton

    You would be surprised how many programmers I know that don't know how to use Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc. I want to see MS Office skills, because these dumb-f***cks are probably going to have to do some documentation, scheduling, or heaven forbid, put together a presentation for the even dumber**ss management people that hired the guy in the first place. ;P Marc

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    Do someone, who claim to be a programmer, need to learn MS Office? Even if they have not seen know it, how long can they take to start using it effectively? If he or she can't figure that out, I don't expect them to figure out anything in computers, let alone programming.

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      how would they write there resumé?


      "When the only tool you have is a hammer, a sore thumb you will have."

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      Philip Fitzsimons wrote: how would they write there resumé? Notepad:-D

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        how would they write there resumé?


        "When the only tool you have is a hammer, a sore thumb you will have."

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          I agree here, but they dont need to list them all out as individual compitencies :) I have seen som many resumes where people list: Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP Microsoft PowerPoint 97/2000/XP Microsoft Outlook 97/2000/XP Microsoft Project 97/2000/XP ... To me this just points out that they are using this as a filler. Tell em that you are copitent in Microsoft Office 2000 with a concebtration in project manegement using Project 2000. That's all I need. And why do people feel that they need to tell me that they can use Outlook? I would hope that someone can use an email program at least... :) The same thing goes for resumes I have seen where people list that they have used every version of windows from 1 -> XP. If they feel the need to tell me that they can use what is probably the most popular OS in the world then I will at leats give them credit if they list it as: Win9x/Win2kS&P

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          Ray Cassick wrote: Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP Microsoft PowerPoint 97/2000/XP Microsoft Outlook 97/2000/XP Microsoft Project 97/2000/XP We could go further and say Word 97 running on Win98 Word 97 running on WinNT Wkstn Word 97 running on WinNT Server Word 97 running on Win2000 Pro Word 97 running on Win2000 Svr Word 97 running on Win2000 Adv Server .... That could be a real filler :-)

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          • T Todd Smith

            Tip of the day: If you're applying for a programming job please don't put MS Office in your list of skills. That's like applying for a quarterback position on a football team and listing walking as one of your abilities. Todd Smith

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            Todd Smith wrote: That's like applying for a quarterback position on a football team and listing walking as one of your abilities. Or listing Water Boy as your previous employment. :-) Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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              I agree here, but they dont need to list them all out as individual compitencies :) I have seen som many resumes where people list: Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP Microsoft PowerPoint 97/2000/XP Microsoft Outlook 97/2000/XP Microsoft Project 97/2000/XP ... To me this just points out that they are using this as a filler. Tell em that you are copitent in Microsoft Office 2000 with a concebtration in project manegement using Project 2000. That's all I need. And why do people feel that they need to tell me that they can use Outlook? I would hope that someone can use an email program at least... :) The same thing goes for resumes I have seen where people list that they have used every version of windows from 1 -> XP. If they feel the need to tell me that they can use what is probably the most popular OS in the world then I will at leats give them credit if they list it as: Win9x/Win2kS&P

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              If someone writes that he knows Word 97, 2000 and Xp, ask the someone the difference between the 3 versions ! Max.

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              • T Todd Smith

                Tip of the day: If you're applying for a programming job please don't put MS Office in your list of skills. That's like applying for a quarterback position on a football team and listing walking as one of your abilities. Todd Smith

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                Here's anther one: don't take credit for other people's work. This doesn't come up as frequently as in other fields, but I heard about this just last night from my old boss: I worked with some artists (John and Cynthia) a few years ago. We also had an intern (Greg?) John ended up getting a job in New York for a company and one of his tasks was to look at resumes for other artists applying to his new company. It just so happens that Greg sent his resume to this company (without knowing that John worked there). Along with his resume, he sent images of work he had done. The problem is that Greg sent the art that John and Cynthia has created, but passed it off as his own! :omg: ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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                • S Steve McLenithan

                  if someone doesnt know how to use office... i don't see how the hell they could even know how to program in the first place :wtf: ******************** * SteveMcLenithan * steve@steve-mac.com * http://steve-mac.com ********************

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                    Jon Sagara
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                    Oops, you beat me to it. :) Oh well. Jon Sagara Help me out here, Spock. I don't speak stupid.

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                    • P Philip Fitzsimons

                      how would they write there resumé?


                      "When the only tool you have is a hammer, a sore thumb you will have."

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                      Sarvesvara BVKS Dasa
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                      emacs... or edit??

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                      • T Todd Smith

                        Tip of the day: If you're applying for a programming job please don't put MS Office in your list of skills. That's like applying for a quarterback position on a football team and listing walking as one of your abilities. Todd Smith

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                        How about people who claim to know Windows 97 and Office 98?!?! :wtf: Nitron _________________________________________-- message sent on 100% recycled electrons.

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                          I agree here, but they dont need to list them all out as individual compitencies :) I have seen som many resumes where people list: Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP Microsoft PowerPoint 97/2000/XP Microsoft Outlook 97/2000/XP Microsoft Project 97/2000/XP ... To me this just points out that they are using this as a filler. Tell em that you are copitent in Microsoft Office 2000 with a concebtration in project manegement using Project 2000. That's all I need. And why do people feel that they need to tell me that they can use Outlook? I would hope that someone can use an email program at least... :) The same thing goes for resumes I have seen where people list that they have used every version of windows from 1 -> XP. If they feel the need to tell me that they can use what is probably the most popular OS in the world then I will at leats give them credit if they list it as: Win9x/Win2kS&P

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                          Ray Cassick wrote: And why do people feel that they need to tell me that they can use Outlook? I would hope that someone can use an email program at least... Outlook is not just an e-mail program!! Blashemer!! (well if I could spell it anyway) You'd be surprised and maybe even shocked to find out that the vast majority of Outlook users don't even know how to use the e-mail capabilities of Outlook effectively, let alone the scheduler, journal, contact management, etc, etc. I had to guide one techy through the process of signing his mail with a digital signature for christ's sake. I mean come on - what's next... priorities? Read receipts? Attachments? :omg:


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                            How about people who claim to know Windows 97 and Office 98?!?! :wtf: Nitron _________________________________________-- message sent on 100% recycled electrons.

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                            Actually, there was an Office 98... ...on the Mac. :rolleyes:

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                              if someone doesnt know how to use office... i don't see how the hell they could even know how to program in the first place :wtf: ******************** * SteveMcLenithan * steve@steve-mac.com * http://steve-mac.com ********************

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                              While I am adequate in using Word I don't know squat about Excel or Powewpoint and see no reason why that should reflect on my programming ability. If that skill is needed I can hire someone to do it for a lot less money than I can hire a programmer. Richard When I reflect upon the number of disagreeable people who I know have gone to better world, I am moved to lead a different life. Mark Twain- Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar

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                                Tip of the day: If you're applying for a programming job please don't put MS Office in your list of skills. That's like applying for a quarterback position on a football team and listing walking as one of your abilities. Todd Smith

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                                natalie morales
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                                My company is hiring for a programming position right now. One of the resumes we receive, the applicant stated he took 6 months off to work on his personal web site (and supplied us with the address). Naturally, we looked at the site. It consisted of a single page with one picture and a link to an email address beneath it. We aren't planning on interviewing him.

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                                  I agree here, but they dont need to list them all out as individual compitencies :) I have seen som many resumes where people list: Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP Microsoft PowerPoint 97/2000/XP Microsoft Outlook 97/2000/XP Microsoft Project 97/2000/XP ... To me this just points out that they are using this as a filler. Tell em that you are copitent in Microsoft Office 2000 with a concebtration in project manegement using Project 2000. That's all I need. And why do people feel that they need to tell me that they can use Outlook? I would hope that someone can use an email program at least... :) The same thing goes for resumes I have seen where people list that they have used every version of windows from 1 -> XP. If they feel the need to tell me that they can use what is probably the most popular OS in the world then I will at leats give them credit if they list it as: Win9x/Win2kS&P

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                                  Zyxil
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                                  knowing how to use office is one thing, but programming to the automation interfaces of the different products is another... perhaps this is what they meant? (prolly not, but...) -John

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                                  • N natalie morales

                                    My company is hiring for a programming position right now. One of the resumes we receive, the applicant stated he took 6 months off to work on his personal web site (and supplied us with the address). Naturally, we looked at the site. It consisted of a single page with one picture and a link to an email address beneath it. We aren't planning on interviewing him.

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                                    Oh, wow... ok, that's truly sad. :omg:

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                                      if someone doesnt know how to use office... i don't see how the hell they could even know how to program in the first place :wtf: ******************** * SteveMcLenithan * steve@steve-mac.com * http://steve-mac.com ********************

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                                      Megan Forbes
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                                      blame the colleges - I've known a couple of talented people, who couldn't afford home pc's or the internet, who could write superb database projects in classic C(time on the college pc's was limited to coursework), but had no idea how to use most software we take for granted. Very sad. :suss:


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                                        Here's anther one: don't take credit for other people's work. This doesn't come up as frequently as in other fields, but I heard about this just last night from my old boss: I worked with some artists (John and Cynthia) a few years ago. We also had an intern (Greg?) John ended up getting a job in New York for a company and one of his tasks was to look at resumes for other artists applying to his new company. It just so happens that Greg sent his resume to this company (without knowing that John worked there). Along with his resume, he sent images of work he had done. The problem is that Greg sent the art that John and Cynthia has created, but passed it off as his own! :omg: ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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                                        Justice is sweet! :rolleyes:


                                        Dave Goodman on funny error messages:
                                        It is a definite no-no to run BITMAP as a user command. Your nose will grow, your lawn will die, your hair will fall out, and your first-born will marry an aardvark. Shame on you!

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                                          Tip of the day: If you're applying for a programming job please don't put MS Office in your list of skills. That's like applying for a quarterback position on a football team and listing walking as one of your abilities. Todd Smith

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                                          Todd Smith wrote: That's like applying for a quarterback position on a football team and listing walking as one of your abilities. :laugh: Todd Smith wrote: Tip of the day: If you're applying for a programming job please don't put MS Office in your list of skills Agreed, but do put down if you have VBA skills for Office, or know how to develop solutions using Office apps. We have lately picked up a good few months of VBA work which we just hired a guy with VBA skills to do.

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