anti-whaling boat Ady Gil cut in half by Japanese ship
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I heard initial reports that it sank, but that doesn't seem to be the case... Of course, it may have been abandoned... Edit: The Greens are calling for the govt to pay $1.5M, doubt that they will though. Here's an interesting article about it all: clickety[^]
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If it wasn't sinking at first, I bet they skuppered it, to make for better headlines.
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Looks like someone decided to 1 vote you. I think that the Japanese are being incredibly obtuse about all of this. Their cultural right to eat whale is not that much older than any American's cultural right to drop nukes on Japan. Either way, there is nothing wrong with rejecting what our ancestors did in ignorance. That's why my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant. However, it's clear that the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth, and I'd never take any piece of green propaganda at face value, or assume they did not help to engineer the situation.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Looks like someone decided to 1 vote you.
Yeah... I did get smacked there... not sure why...
Christian Graus wrote:
That's why my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant.
Oh come on, that's not why... ;P
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If it wasn't sinking at first, I bet they skuppered it, to make for better headlines.
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They are fools... Sea Shepherd are a group of vigilantes... I don't dispute that the Japanese shouldn't be whaling in our territorial waters (if they want whales, get them in their own waters), but to risk life and limb like this is plainly ridiculous...
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Christian Graus wrote:
Looks like someone decided to 1 vote you.
Yeah... I did get smacked there... not sure why...
Christian Graus wrote:
That's why my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant.
Oh come on, that's not why... ;P
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_Damian S_ wrote:
Oh come on, that's not why...
ROTFL !!!
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I saw the footage of this this morning, and while it was extensively damaged, I'd hardly call it cut in half... it had a bit of the nose taken off, and was still floating... From the footage I saw, I suspect that the skipper of the Ady Gil is at fault - even though he technically had right of passage, he purposely appeared to drive in front of the other ship and then cut power to cause the collision...
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Saw the footage too. From the Japanese vessel you can see all the crew in the back of the Ady Gil as the 'research' vessel wiped its nose (clean off). The more interesting footage is the one from one of Sea Shepherd's other vessels. You can plainly see the Ady Gil stationary (as you can be in the Southern Ocean) but almost in the way of the Japanese vessel. The Japanese vessel plainly veers starboard toward the Ady Gil, then immediately port. I think the captain of the Japanese vessel was determined to give them a fright but oversteered in the first instance - for a big ship it could sure as hell turn fast. If I remember rightly the Ady Gil is a rebadged (and repainted) round the wheel speed machine designed to run on bio-fuel. In its round the world travels it apparently rammed / damaged a much smaller vessel - Karma? Also at one point, powering through very rough seas, the whole boat was somewhere around 6 meters under water, before powering out - now of course it's staying underwater.
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Saw the footage too. From the Japanese vessel you can see all the crew in the back of the Ady Gil as the 'research' vessel wiped its nose (clean off). The more interesting footage is the one from one of Sea Shepherd's other vessels. You can plainly see the Ady Gil stationary (as you can be in the Southern Ocean) but almost in the way of the Japanese vessel. The Japanese vessel plainly veers starboard toward the Ady Gil, then immediately port. I think the captain of the Japanese vessel was determined to give them a fright but oversteered in the first instance - for a big ship it could sure as hell turn fast. If I remember rightly the Ady Gil is a rebadged (and repainted) round the wheel speed machine designed to run on bio-fuel. In its round the world travels it apparently rammed / damaged a much smaller vessel - Karma? Also at one point, powering through very rough seas, the whole boat was somewhere around 6 meters under water, before powering out - now of course it's staying underwater.
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Lee Humphries wrote:
rebadged (and repainted) round the wheel speed machine designed to run on bio-fuel.
Add to that re-armoured with 1 tonne of kevlar added to strengthen it... guess they needed a little more!!
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I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]
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Considering how they are the most technologically advanced country in the world, I wonder why they don't try to invent some sort of hyper-aquatic-farm where they can cultivate fast growing whales of all kinds. That'd give them their sashimi material :)
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Looks like someone decided to 1 vote you. I think that the Japanese are being incredibly obtuse about all of this. Their cultural right to eat whale is not that much older than any American's cultural right to drop nukes on Japan. Either way, there is nothing wrong with rejecting what our ancestors did in ignorance. That's why my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant. However, it's clear that the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth, and I'd never take any piece of green propaganda at face value, or assume they did not help to engineer the situation.
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Christian Graus wrote:
my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant
So which of the two is she? If anything, the former is probably the better choice.
Christian Graus wrote:
the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth
I've heard of profit being used to lure in unsuspecting businessmen in order to make them go green. Just because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit. That being said...
Christian Graus wrote:
never take any piece of green propaganda at face value
That's probably good advice.
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Considering how they are the most technologically advanced country in the world, I wonder why they don't try to invent some sort of hyper-aquatic-farm where they can cultivate fast growing whales of all kinds. That'd give them their sashimi material :)
Regards, Nish
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkI suspect that because annoying the West is half the point.
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Looks like someone decided to 1 vote you. I think that the Japanese are being incredibly obtuse about all of this. Their cultural right to eat whale is not that much older than any American's cultural right to drop nukes on Japan. Either way, there is nothing wrong with rejecting what our ancestors did in ignorance. That's why my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant. However, it's clear that the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth, and I'd never take any piece of green propaganda at face value, or assume they did not help to engineer the situation.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Was the Ady Gil harrassing the Japanese whaler, trying to make a point? I ask because that's not an uncommon green tactic, and judging by the water cannon activity I'd say that there was definitely a fight of some sort going on prior to the collision. Perhaps the green guys never got around to reading that bit from Sun Tzu about knowing your enemy. While many nations in history had a warrior culture, Japan refined it and took it to extremes for many, many centuries. America nuked Japan because we understood them enough to realize that nothing less would even get their attention, let alone stop them. And this is the culture that the green guys want to play chicken with? Somebody seriously needs to send them some old Akira Kurosawa / Toshiro Mifune movies.
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Considering how they are the most technologically advanced country in the world, I wonder why they don't try to invent some sort of hyper-aquatic-farm where they can cultivate fast growing whales of all kinds. That'd give them their sashimi material :)
Regards, Nish
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkThe funniest part is that most Japanese don't eat whale meat... there are warehouses full of the stuff that they can't sell, but still they continue their "scientific research program" to get more...
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The funniest part is that most Japanese don't eat whale meat... there are warehouses full of the stuff that they can't sell, but still they continue their "scientific research program" to get more...
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_Damian S_ wrote:
there are warehouses full of the stuff
Maybe they're just stockpiling it in anticipation of the inevitable extinction. ;P
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_Damian S_ wrote:
there are warehouses full of the stuff
Maybe they're just stockpiling it in anticipation of the inevitable extinction. ;P
Which will, of course, create a monopoly.
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Which will, of course, create a monopoly.
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Christian Graus wrote:
monopoly
If they played that, there'd be no time to hunt whales!!
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I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]
Opacity, the new Transparency.
All of those actors were involved in piracy as defined by the U.N. so I can't say I am really to concerned about criminals getting what they deserve. ... Especially since the show is so incredibly boring.
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Which will, of course, create a monopoly.
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Maybe they are just trying to preserve the DNA for future cloning and whatnot.
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Maybe they are just trying to preserve the DNA for future cloning and whatnot.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
And rather than just use a sample from one whale, they want samples from every whale. That way, they can preserve biodiversity. Now that's environmental dedication!
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Christian Graus wrote:
my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant
So which of the two is she? If anything, the former is probably the better choice.
Christian Graus wrote:
the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth
I've heard of profit being used to lure in unsuspecting businessmen in order to make them go green. Just because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit. That being said...
Christian Graus wrote:
never take any piece of green propaganda at face value
That's probably good advice.
my 13 yo is not (married + pregnant).
aspdotnetdev wrote:
because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit
They tell themselves they are doing good, but when they subvert truth to increase profit, they are fooling themselves.
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my 13 yo is not (married + pregnant).
aspdotnetdev wrote:
because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit
They tell themselves they are doing good, but when they subvert truth to increase profit, they are fooling themselves.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
my 13 yo is not (married + pregnant).
Ah, so she is neither married nor pregnant.
Christian Graus wrote:
they are fooling themselves.
Then at least they are being honest to everyone else!
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I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]
Opacity, the new Transparency.
i really like the design of the boat (ady gil) :D hoping that they still continue there vigilance towards the protection of this becoming extinct species. no matter the cost! :D
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