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  • L Lee Humphries

    Saw the footage too. From the Japanese vessel you can see all the crew in the back of the Ady Gil as the 'research' vessel wiped its nose (clean off). The more interesting footage is the one from one of Sea Shepherd's other vessels. You can plainly see the Ady Gil stationary (as you can be in the Southern Ocean) but almost in the way of the Japanese vessel. The Japanese vessel plainly veers starboard toward the Ady Gil, then immediately port. I think the captain of the Japanese vessel was determined to give them a fright but oversteered in the first instance - for a big ship it could sure as hell turn fast. If I remember rightly the Ady Gil is a rebadged (and repainted) round the wheel speed machine designed to run on bio-fuel. In its round the world travels it apparently rammed / damaged a much smaller vessel - Karma? Also at one point, powering through very rough seas, the whole boat was somewhere around 6 meters under water, before powering out - now of course it's staying underwater.

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    Lee Humphries wrote:

    rebadged (and repainted) round the wheel speed machine designed to run on bio-fuel.

    Add to that re-armoured with 1 tonne of kevlar added to strengthen it... guess they needed a little more!!

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      I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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      Nish Nishant
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      Considering how they are the most technologically advanced country in the world, I wonder why they don't try to invent some sort of hyper-aquatic-farm where they can cultivate fast growing whales of all kinds. That'd give them their sashimi material :)

      Regards, Nish


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      • C Christian Graus

        Looks like someone decided to 1 vote you. I think that the Japanese are being incredibly obtuse about all of this. Their cultural right to eat whale is not that much older than any American's cultural right to drop nukes on Japan. Either way, there is nothing wrong with rejecting what our ancestors did in ignorance. That's why my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant. However, it's clear that the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth, and I'd never take any piece of green propaganda at face value, or assume they did not help to engineer the situation.

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant

        So which of the two is she? If anything, the former is probably the better choice.

        Christian Graus wrote:

        the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth

        I've heard of profit being used to lure in unsuspecting businessmen in order to make them go green. Just because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit. That being said...

        Christian Graus wrote:

        never take any piece of green propaganda at face value

        That's probably good advice.

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          Considering how they are the most technologically advanced country in the world, I wonder why they don't try to invent some sort of hyper-aquatic-farm where they can cultivate fast growing whales of all kinds. That'd give them their sashimi material :)

          Regards, Nish


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          Christian Graus
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          I suspect that because annoying the West is half the point.

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          • C Christian Graus

            Looks like someone decided to 1 vote you. I think that the Japanese are being incredibly obtuse about all of this. Their cultural right to eat whale is not that much older than any American's cultural right to drop nukes on Japan. Either way, there is nothing wrong with rejecting what our ancestors did in ignorance. That's why my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant. However, it's clear that the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth, and I'd never take any piece of green propaganda at face value, or assume they did not help to engineer the situation.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Christopher Duncan
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            Was the Ady Gil harrassing the Japanese whaler, trying to make a point? I ask because that's not an uncommon green tactic, and judging by the water cannon activity I'd say that there was definitely a fight of some sort going on prior to the collision. Perhaps the green guys never got around to reading that bit from Sun Tzu about knowing your enemy. While many nations in history had a warrior culture, Japan refined it and took it to extremes for many, many centuries. America nuked Japan because we understood them enough to realize that nothing less would even get their attention, let alone stop them. And this is the culture that the green guys want to play chicken with? Somebody seriously needs to send them some old Akira Kurosawa / Toshiro Mifune movies.

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            • N Nish Nishant

              Considering how they are the most technologically advanced country in the world, I wonder why they don't try to invent some sort of hyper-aquatic-farm where they can cultivate fast growing whales of all kinds. That'd give them their sashimi material :)

              Regards, Nish


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              _Damian S_
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              The funniest part is that most Japanese don't eat whale meat... there are warehouses full of the stuff that they can't sell, but still they continue their "scientific research program" to get more...

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                The funniest part is that most Japanese don't eat whale meat... there are warehouses full of the stuff that they can't sell, but still they continue their "scientific research program" to get more...

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                _Damian S_ wrote:

                there are warehouses full of the stuff

                Maybe they're just stockpiling it in anticipation of the inevitable extinction. ;P

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                  _Damian S_ wrote:

                  there are warehouses full of the stuff

                  Maybe they're just stockpiling it in anticipation of the inevitable extinction. ;P

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Which will, of course, create a monopoly.

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                    Which will, of course, create a monopoly.

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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    monopoly

                    If they played that, there'd be no time to hunt whales!!

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                    • R RichardM1

                      I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                      All of those actors were involved in piracy as defined by the U.N. so I can't say I am really to concerned about criminals getting what they deserve. ... Especially since the show is so incredibly boring.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Which will, of course, create a monopoly.

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                        Chris Austin
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                        Maybe they are just trying to preserve the DNA for future cloning and whatnot.

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                          Maybe they are just trying to preserve the DNA for future cloning and whatnot.

                          And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                          AspDotNetDev
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                          And rather than just use a sample from one whale, they want samples from every whale. That way, they can preserve biodiversity. Now that's environmental dedication!

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                          • A AspDotNetDev

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant

                            So which of the two is she? If anything, the former is probably the better choice.

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth

                            I've heard of profit being used to lure in unsuspecting businessmen in order to make them go green. Just because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit. That being said...

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            never take any piece of green propaganda at face value

                            That's probably good advice.

                            [Forum Guidelines]

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                            Christian Graus
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                            my 13 yo is not (married + pregnant).

                            aspdotnetdev wrote:

                            because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit

                            They tell themselves they are doing good, but when they subvert truth to increase profit, they are fooling themselves.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              my 13 yo is not (married + pregnant).

                              aspdotnetdev wrote:

                              because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit

                              They tell themselves they are doing good, but when they subvert truth to increase profit, they are fooling themselves.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              AspDotNetDev
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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              my 13 yo is not (married + pregnant).

                              Ah, so she is neither married nor pregnant.

                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              they are fooling themselves.

                              Then at least they are being honest to everyone else!

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                              • R RichardM1

                                I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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                                TheCardinal
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                                i really like the design of the boat (ady gil) :D hoping that they still continue there vigilance towards the protection of this becoming extinct species. no matter the cost! :D

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                                  i really like the design of the boat (ady gil) :D hoping that they still continue there vigilance towards the protection of this becoming extinct species. no matter the cost! :D

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                                  _Damian S_
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                                  TheCardinal wrote:

                                  vigilance

                                  is fine... but they are slipping into vigilante mode too often for my liking... someone's going to get hurt!!

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                                    I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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                                    The ICR countered that the Ady Gil had come "within collision distance" directly in front of the Nisshin Maru bow and repeatedly deployed a rope from its stern "to entangle the Japanese vessel's rudder and propeller" The d1ckheads should be keelhauled. I assume that they're sponsored to play games in fun boats year long by grannies and children, who give their precious pennies to protect pretty whales. The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation, and that the actions of these idiots only gain the whaling industry more support -- but they don't care about that; they just want to play pirate.

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                                      I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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                                      Dario Solera
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                                      ... but they should really get a clue on how to drive a boat. Technically, it's the Ady Gil that hit the Japanese ship, which certainly cannot make turns rapidly because it's huge. Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

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                                        ... but they should really get a clue on how to drive a boat. Technically, it's the Ady Gil that hit the Japanese ship, which certainly cannot make turns rapidly because it's huge. Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

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                                        Mark_Wallace
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                                        Dario Solera wrote:

                                        Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                                        Humans kill to eat. There's no getting around that unpleasant fact. The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

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                                          Dario Solera wrote:

                                          Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                                          Humans kill to eat. There's no getting around that unpleasant fact. The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

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                                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                          Mark Wallace wrote:

                                          The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

                                          With all due respect, that's rubbish.

                                          Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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