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  • R RichardM1

    I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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    All of those actors were involved in piracy as defined by the U.N. so I can't say I am really to concerned about criminals getting what they deserve. ... Especially since the show is so incredibly boring.

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      Which will, of course, create a monopoly.

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      Chris Austin
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      Maybe they are just trying to preserve the DNA for future cloning and whatnot.

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        Maybe they are just trying to preserve the DNA for future cloning and whatnot.

        And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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        AspDotNetDev
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        And rather than just use a sample from one whale, they want samples from every whale. That way, they can preserve biodiversity. Now that's environmental dedication!

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          Christian Graus wrote:

          my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant

          So which of the two is she? If anything, the former is probably the better choice.

          Christian Graus wrote:

          the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth

          I've heard of profit being used to lure in unsuspecting businessmen in order to make them go green. Just because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit. That being said...

          Christian Graus wrote:

          never take any piece of green propaganda at face value

          That's probably good advice.

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          Christian Graus
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          my 13 yo is not (married + pregnant).

          aspdotnetdev wrote:

          because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit

          They tell themselves they are doing good, but when they subvert truth to increase profit, they are fooling themselves.

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            my 13 yo is not (married + pregnant).

            aspdotnetdev wrote:

            because they are used together does not mean they are interested in saving the earth because of profit

            They tell themselves they are doing good, but when they subvert truth to increase profit, they are fooling themselves.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            AspDotNetDev
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            my 13 yo is not (married + pregnant).

            Ah, so she is neither married nor pregnant.

            Christian Graus wrote:

            they are fooling themselves.

            Then at least they are being honest to everyone else!

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            • R RichardM1

              I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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              TheCardinal
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              i really like the design of the boat (ady gil) :D hoping that they still continue there vigilance towards the protection of this becoming extinct species. no matter the cost! :D

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              • T TheCardinal

                i really like the design of the boat (ady gil) :D hoping that they still continue there vigilance towards the protection of this becoming extinct species. no matter the cost! :D

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                _Damian S_
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                TheCardinal wrote:

                vigilance

                is fine... but they are slipping into vigilante mode too often for my liking... someone's going to get hurt!!

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                • R RichardM1

                  I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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                  The ICR countered that the Ady Gil had come "within collision distance" directly in front of the Nisshin Maru bow and repeatedly deployed a rope from its stern "to entangle the Japanese vessel's rudder and propeller" The d1ckheads should be keelhauled. I assume that they're sponsored to play games in fun boats year long by grannies and children, who give their precious pennies to protect pretty whales. The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation, and that the actions of these idiots only gain the whaling industry more support -- but they don't care about that; they just want to play pirate.

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                  • R RichardM1

                    I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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                    Dario Solera
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                    ... but they should really get a clue on how to drive a boat. Technically, it's the Ady Gil that hit the Japanese ship, which certainly cannot make turns rapidly because it's huge. Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

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                      ... but they should really get a clue on how to drive a boat. Technically, it's the Ady Gil that hit the Japanese ship, which certainly cannot make turns rapidly because it's huge. Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                      Dario Solera wrote:

                      Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                      Humans kill to eat. There's no getting around that unpleasant fact. The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

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                        Dario Solera wrote:

                        Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                        Humans kill to eat. There's no getting around that unpleasant fact. The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

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                        Vikram A Punathambekar
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                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                        The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

                        With all due respect, that's rubbish.

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          Dario Solera wrote:

                          Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                          Humans kill to eat. There's no getting around that unpleasant fact. The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

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                          Dario Solera
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                          Well but there are a lot of other species you can eat and that are not in danger of extinction.

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                            The ICR countered that the Ady Gil had come "within collision distance" directly in front of the Nisshin Maru bow and repeatedly deployed a rope from its stern "to entangle the Japanese vessel's rudder and propeller" The d1ckheads should be keelhauled. I assume that they're sponsored to play games in fun boats year long by grannies and children, who give their precious pennies to protect pretty whales. The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation, and that the actions of these idiots only gain the whaling industry more support -- but they don't care about that; they just want to play pirate.

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                            Mark Wallace wrote:

                            I assume that they're sponsored to play games in fun boats year long by grannies and children, who give their precious pennies to protect pretty whales

                            Cynical and probably correct, but regardless, is trying to prevent endangered animals from being poached to extinction (within a marine sanctuary) really such a bad cause?

                            Mark Wallace wrote:

                            The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation

                            Uh-huh, they've been trying diplomacy since 1986[^] - meaning that it's been around 24 years with no results; sounds like it's time to try something else.

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                              Mark Wallace wrote:

                              The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

                              With all due respect, that's rubbish.

                              Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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                              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                              Mark Wallace wrote:The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve. With all due respect, that's rubbish.

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                                Well but there are a lot of other species you can eat and that are not in danger of extinction.

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                                Haakon S
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                                The minke whales they are hunting are NOT becoming extinct. There are several thousand of them.

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                                • R Russ T

                                  Mark Wallace wrote:

                                  I assume that they're sponsored to play games in fun boats year long by grannies and children, who give their precious pennies to protect pretty whales

                                  Cynical and probably correct, but regardless, is trying to prevent endangered animals from being poached to extinction (within a marine sanctuary) really such a bad cause?

                                  Mark Wallace wrote:

                                  The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation

                                  Uh-huh, they've been trying diplomacy since 1986[^] - meaning that it's been around 24 years with no results; sounds like it's time to try something else.

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                                  Russ-T wrote:

                                  Mark Wallace wrote:The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation Uh-huh, they've been trying diplomacy since 1986[^] - meaning that it's been around 24 years with no results; sounds like it's time to try something else.

                                  Something else diplomatic, or negotiate with something else, yes. Playing stupid pirate games that endanger the lives and livelihoods of honest working men with families is, and never should be, an option.

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                                    Well but there are a lot of other species you can eat and that are not in danger of extinction.

                                    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                                    Dario Solera wrote:

                                    Well but there are a lot of other species you can eat and that are not in danger of extinction.

                                    Absolutely, and that's one of the reasons I would never eat whale. But I wouldn't drive a Humvee, either -- or any other car, for that matter. Let he who is without sin, and all that. Make a deal with them: Offer to give up all the things you do that are bad for the environment/ecology/other species if one of them stops eating whales. e.g. use one (1) monitor only (and a small one, at that), switch off all peripherals every minute when they are not being used, etc. It's easy to be saintly about other people's behaviour.

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                                      ... but they should really get a clue on how to drive a boat. Technically, it's the Ady Gil that hit the Japanese ship, which certainly cannot make turns rapidly because it's huge. Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                                      leppie
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                                      Dario Solera wrote:

                                      Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                                      Yes, it is sad, but think of the alternative. They would have to kill 1000's more dolphins/seals/rhino/elephant/etc for the same quantity.

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                                      • M Mark_Wallace

                                        Russ-T wrote:

                                        Mark Wallace wrote:The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation Uh-huh, they've been trying diplomacy since 1986[^] - meaning that it's been around 24 years with no results; sounds like it's time to try something else.

                                        Something else diplomatic, or negotiate with something else, yes. Playing stupid pirate games that endanger the lives and livelihoods of honest working men with families is, and never should be, an option.

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                                        Russ T
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                                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                                        Something else diplomatic, or negotiate with something else, yes.

                                        If there's something that would actually work, then absolutely yes. If you've got any bright ideas then let's hear them.

                                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                                        Playing stupid pirate games that endanger the lives and livelihoods of honest working men with families is, and never should be, an option.

                                        I agree with you up until a point: vigilantism is a bad thing in this case and it's foolish to be playing reckless cat & mouse games that endanger people's lives. However, as for "endangering livelihoods", tough luck I say. The world changes constantly and the work force needs to change with it - that's just part of life. There's no longer any market for typewriters, so they stopped getting produced and the people making had to reskill. Similarly there's barely a market for whale meat, so why can't your "honest working men with families" go and do something different? Something useful.

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                                          I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Too bad they didn't have Watson tied to the bow. ;P

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