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  • R RichardM1

    I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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    Dario Solera
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    ... but they should really get a clue on how to drive a boat. Technically, it's the Ady Gil that hit the Japanese ship, which certainly cannot make turns rapidly because it's huge. Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

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      ... but they should really get a clue on how to drive a boat. Technically, it's the Ady Gil that hit the Japanese ship, which certainly cannot make turns rapidly because it's huge. Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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      Mark_Wallace
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      Dario Solera wrote:

      Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

      Humans kill to eat. There's no getting around that unpleasant fact. The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

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        Dario Solera wrote:

        Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

        Humans kill to eat. There's no getting around that unpleasant fact. The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        Vikram A Punathambekar
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        Mark Wallace wrote:

        The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

        With all due respect, that's rubbish.

        Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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          Dario Solera wrote:

          Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

          Humans kill to eat. There's no getting around that unpleasant fact. The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Dario Solera
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          Well but there are a lot of other species you can eat and that are not in danger of extinction.

          If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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            The ICR countered that the Ady Gil had come "within collision distance" directly in front of the Nisshin Maru bow and repeatedly deployed a rope from its stern "to entangle the Japanese vessel's rudder and propeller" The d1ckheads should be keelhauled. I assume that they're sponsored to play games in fun boats year long by grannies and children, who give their precious pennies to protect pretty whales. The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation, and that the actions of these idiots only gain the whaling industry more support -- but they don't care about that; they just want to play pirate.

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            Russ T
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            Mark Wallace wrote:

            I assume that they're sponsored to play games in fun boats year long by grannies and children, who give their precious pennies to protect pretty whales

            Cynical and probably correct, but regardless, is trying to prevent endangered animals from being poached to extinction (within a marine sanctuary) really such a bad cause?

            Mark Wallace wrote:

            The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation

            Uh-huh, they've been trying diplomacy since 1986[^] - meaning that it's been around 24 years with no results; sounds like it's time to try something else.

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            • V Vikram A Punathambekar

              Mark Wallace wrote:

              The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

              With all due respect, that's rubbish.

              Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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              Mark_Wallace
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              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

              Mark Wallace wrote:The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve. With all due respect, that's rubbish.

              I hate to tell you this, but rock cakes aren't really made of rocks.

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              • D Dario Solera

                Well but there are a lot of other species you can eat and that are not in danger of extinction.

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                Haakon S
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                The minke whales they are hunting are NOT becoming extinct. There are several thousand of them.

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                • R Russ T

                  Mark Wallace wrote:

                  I assume that they're sponsored to play games in fun boats year long by grannies and children, who give their precious pennies to protect pretty whales

                  Cynical and probably correct, but regardless, is trying to prevent endangered animals from being poached to extinction (within a marine sanctuary) really such a bad cause?

                  Mark Wallace wrote:

                  The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation

                  Uh-huh, they've been trying diplomacy since 1986[^] - meaning that it's been around 24 years with no results; sounds like it's time to try something else.

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                  Russ-T wrote:

                  Mark Wallace wrote:The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation Uh-huh, they've been trying diplomacy since 1986[^] - meaning that it's been around 24 years with no results; sounds like it's time to try something else.

                  Something else diplomatic, or negotiate with something else, yes. Playing stupid pirate games that endanger the lives and livelihoods of honest working men with families is, and never should be, an option.

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                  • D Dario Solera

                    Well but there are a lot of other species you can eat and that are not in danger of extinction.

                    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    Dario Solera wrote:

                    Well but there are a lot of other species you can eat and that are not in danger of extinction.

                    Absolutely, and that's one of the reasons I would never eat whale. But I wouldn't drive a Humvee, either -- or any other car, for that matter. Let he who is without sin, and all that. Make a deal with them: Offer to give up all the things you do that are bad for the environment/ecology/other species if one of them stops eating whales. e.g. use one (1) monitor only (and a small one, at that), switch off all peripherals every minute when they are not being used, etc. It's easy to be saintly about other people's behaviour.

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                    • D Dario Solera

                      ... but they should really get a clue on how to drive a boat. Technically, it's the Ady Gil that hit the Japanese ship, which certainly cannot make turns rapidly because it's huge. Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                      leppie
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                      Dario Solera wrote:

                      Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                      Yes, it is sad, but think of the alternative. They would have to kill 1000's more dolphins/seals/rhino/elephant/etc for the same quantity.

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                      • M Mark_Wallace

                        Russ-T wrote:

                        Mark Wallace wrote:The most idiotic of cretins would know that the only way to stop whaling is by diplomacy and negotiation Uh-huh, they've been trying diplomacy since 1986[^] - meaning that it's been around 24 years with no results; sounds like it's time to try something else.

                        Something else diplomatic, or negotiate with something else, yes. Playing stupid pirate games that endanger the lives and livelihoods of honest working men with families is, and never should be, an option.

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                        Russ T
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                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                        Something else diplomatic, or negotiate with something else, yes.

                        If there's something that would actually work, then absolutely yes. If you've got any bright ideas then let's hear them.

                        Mark Wallace wrote:

                        Playing stupid pirate games that endanger the lives and livelihoods of honest working men with families is, and never should be, an option.

                        I agree with you up until a point: vigilantism is a bad thing in this case and it's foolish to be playing reckless cat & mouse games that endanger people's lives. However, as for "endangering livelihoods", tough luck I say. The world changes constantly and the work force needs to change with it - that's just part of life. There's no longer any market for typewriters, so they stopped getting produced and the people making had to reskill. Similarly there's barely a market for whale meat, so why can't your "honest working men with families" go and do something different? Something useful.

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                        • R RichardM1

                          I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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                          Lost User
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                          Too bad they didn't have Watson tied to the bow. ;P

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                          • M Mark_Wallace

                            Dario Solera wrote:

                            Besides, do you Japanese guys really, absolutely need to eat whales?

                            Humans kill to eat. There's no getting around that unpleasant fact. The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            Lost User
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                            Whaling is heavily subsidised, it's a matter of face for the politicians. Also a lot of the meat gets thrown away because in practice people would rather eat big Macs.

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                              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                              Mark Wallace wrote:The only choice we have is: Live with it or starve. With all due respect, that's rubbish.

                              I hate to tell you this, but rock cakes aren't really made of rocks.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              Russell Jones
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                              I'm sure I'm not the only person on code project who fails to starve despite not eating meat.

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                              • R RichardM1

                                I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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                                annathor
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                                That reminds me, I have 2kg of whale beef in the fridge, I have to eat befor it goes sour.

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                                  Too bad they didn't have Watson tied to the bow. ;P

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  I resent that.

                                  cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                  • R RichardM1

                                    I guess I'm glad nobody was hurt, but shouldn't you expect this from people you say have no respect for life and then steer ride right in front of? [anti-whaling-boat-Ady-Gil-cut-in-half-by-Japanese-ship]

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                                    Paul Watson
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                                    Bloody Paul Watson character causing trouble again.

                                    cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                      I resent that.

                                      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      I specifically left out the first name just so I could avoid this... :laugh:

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        Looks like someone decided to 1 vote you. I think that the Japanese are being incredibly obtuse about all of this. Their cultural right to eat whale is not that much older than any American's cultural right to drop nukes on Japan. Either way, there is nothing wrong with rejecting what our ancestors did in ignorance. That's why my 13 yo daughter is not married and pregnant. However, it's clear that the green movement is at least as much focused on profit as on saving the earth, and I'd never take any piece of green propaganda at face value, or assume they did not help to engineer the situation.

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                                        charlieg
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                                        "than any American's cultural right to drop nukes on Japan. " :wtf:

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                                        • R Russell Jones

                                          I'm sure I'm not the only person on code project who fails to starve despite not eating meat.

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          Russell Jones wrote:

                                          I'm sure I'm not the only person on code project who fails to starve despite not eating meat.

                                          Who said anything about meat? Humans kill to eat. Do you think that plants are not living creatures? I've got news for you, if you do. Why is it that vegetarians seem to think that they have a God-given right to decide which life forms it is OK to kill? Who set this priority system, and based on what? Life is life. Humans kill to eat.

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