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    Media2r
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    ...but a certain individual in here does have a point(!). This morning I've experienced A LOT more caching issues than normal in here. It most certainly isn't local cache either, as that's the first to go when I experince abnormal behaviour. I'm not too concerned though - I'm sure it's just a fad if even that, but I figured it was worth mentioning that his earlier post might not have been completely unfounded. I suppose stating that will expose me to a world of pain and univoting, but right should be right. //L

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      ...but a certain individual in here does have a point(!). This morning I've experienced A LOT more caching issues than normal in here. It most certainly isn't local cache either, as that's the first to go when I experince abnormal behaviour. I'm not too concerned though - I'm sure it's just a fad if even that, but I figured it was worth mentioning that his earlier post might not have been completely unfounded. I suppose stating that will expose me to a world of pain and univoting, but right should be right. //L

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      phannon86
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      I'm seeing it too from time to time, but only when being served from Web21, and once served by that, it tends to stick until you hit Ctrl+F5.

      He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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        ...but a certain individual in here does have a point(!). This morning I've experienced A LOT more caching issues than normal in here. It most certainly isn't local cache either, as that's the first to go when I experince abnormal behaviour. I'm not too concerned though - I'm sure it's just a fad if even that, but I figured it was worth mentioning that his earlier post might not have been completely unfounded. I suppose stating that will expose me to a world of pain and univoting, but right should be right. //L

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        Dalek Dave
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        This does happen, it depends which of the servers you get. Sometimes there are Hamster Issues that need resolving, but he is right that there was delays, I think it was unfair to downvote him, especially as he did report them in the Bugs section.

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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          ...but a certain individual in here does have a point(!). This morning I've experienced A LOT more caching issues than normal in here. It most certainly isn't local cache either, as that's the first to go when I experince abnormal behaviour. I'm not too concerned though - I'm sure it's just a fad if even that, but I figured it was worth mentioning that his earlier post might not have been completely unfounded. I suppose stating that will expose me to a world of pain and univoting, but right should be right. //L

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          JustWorking
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          Thats what I'm talking about.

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            ...but a certain individual in here does have a point(!). This morning I've experienced A LOT more caching issues than normal in here. It most certainly isn't local cache either, as that's the first to go when I experince abnormal behaviour. I'm not too concerned though - I'm sure it's just a fad if even that, but I figured it was worth mentioning that his earlier post might not have been completely unfounded. I suppose stating that will expose me to a world of pain and univoting, but right should be right. //L

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            Chris Maunder
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            I updated the caching settings last night to make client side caching more aggressive in order to speed things up. However, this should not have affected dynamic pages such as the lounge, and should not have had any affect on our server-side caching of messages. Please let me know if caching issues with messages is showing more-than-normal weirdness and I'll go grab a large spanner. Or wrench, for you North American types ;)

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              Thats what I'm talking about.

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              Mark_Wallace
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              Cpianism wrote:

              Thats what I'm talking about.

              If it's a local caching/cookie problem, you can fix it. If it's a remote caching problem, it will disappear on its own. There's not much sense in getting paranoid over imperfections in the Internet. No-one is actually out to get you, but even if they were, it's only the Internet!. Real life is tougher, worse, easier, and better.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                I updated the caching settings last night to make client side caching more aggressive in order to speed things up. However, this should not have affected dynamic pages such as the lounge, and should not have had any affect on our server-side caching of messages. Please let me know if caching issues with messages is showing more-than-normal weirdness and I'll go grab a large spanner. Or wrench, for you North American types ;)

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                JustWorking
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                I'm still affected till now the lounge, site bugs and others are cashing in since this morning and I'm still waiting to see them.

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                  I updated the caching settings last night to make client side caching more aggressive in order to speed things up. However, this should not have affected dynamic pages such as the lounge, and should not have had any affect on our server-side caching of messages. Please let me know if caching issues with messages is showing more-than-normal weirdness and I'll go grab a large spanner. Or wrench, for you North American types ;)

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  Rage
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                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  let me know if caching issues with messages is showing more-than-normal weirdness

                  It definitely does. I had never experienced any problem so far, I had several occurrences in the last few hours. I have indeed lost a post as Cpianism did, and _everytime_ I enter the Lounge, I have to refresh the cache to update the view. (I must acknowledge, I do leave the Lounge from time to time, when closing the browser by mistake :-O ).

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                    Cpianism wrote:

                    Thats what I'm talking about.

                    If it's a local caching/cookie problem, you can fix it. If it's a remote caching problem, it will disappear on its own. There's not much sense in getting paranoid over imperfections in the Internet. No-one is actually out to get you, but even if they were, it's only the Internet!. Real life is tougher, worse, easier, and better.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    JustWorking
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                    Who said anything in getting paranoid :confused:

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                    • J JustWorking

                      Who said anything in getting paranoid :confused:

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      Cpianism wrote:

                      Who said anything in getting paranoid

                      A flurry of messages about "missing" postings smacks loudly of paranoia. If a posting is deleted, a deletion message is put in its place. The only other reasons for postings not being visible/present are lags or caching problems, which don't merit discussion unless they become really bad (and then not in the Lounge).

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I updated the caching settings last night to make client side caching more aggressive in order to speed things up. However, this should not have affected dynamic pages such as the lounge, and should not have had any affect on our server-side caching of messages. Please let me know if caching issues with messages is showing more-than-normal weirdness and I'll go grab a large spanner. Or wrench, for you North American types ;)

                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        phannon86
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                        As mentioned in the BugReport section, I'm pretty sure it's Web21 requiring a good "spannering" :)

                        He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          I updated the caching settings last night to make client side caching more aggressive in order to speed things up. However, this should not have affected dynamic pages such as the lounge, and should not have had any affect on our server-side caching of messages. Please let me know if caching issues with messages is showing more-than-normal weirdness and I'll go grab a large spanner. Or wrench, for you North American types ;)

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Nothing out of the ordinary here.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            I updated the caching settings last night to make client side caching more aggressive in order to speed things up. However, this should not have affected dynamic pages such as the lounge, and should not have had any affect on our server-side caching of messages. Please let me know if caching issues with messages is showing more-than-normal weirdness and I'll go grab a large spanner. Or wrench, for you North American types ;)

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                            Christopher Duncan
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                            Wrench? We use hammers.

                            Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services

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                              Wrench? We use hammers.

                              Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services

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                              Chris Maunder
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                              Did I get that around the wrong way? You guys say spanner and we say wrench? That's it, I'm getting on a plane outta here. (Unless you were wondering if there was a superfluous "r" in there...)

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                Did I get that around the wrong way? You guys say spanner and we say wrench? That's it, I'm getting on a plane outta here. (Unless you were wondering if there was a superfluous "r" in there...)

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                Christopher Duncan
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                                Although the thought of eliminating the "r" did occur to me, we do tend to say wrench when there are nuts to tighten. Wait, perhaps I should rephrase that... I was simply alluding to the fact that only a novice would use a spanner / wrench. Real men just whack things with a hammer.

                                Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services

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                                  Wrench? We use hammers.

                                  Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                  hammers

                                  ITYM "handyman screwdrivers".

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    ...but a certain individual in here does have a point(!). This morning I've experienced A LOT more caching issues than normal in here. It most certainly isn't local cache either, as that's the first to go when I experince abnormal behaviour. I'm not too concerned though - I'm sure it's just a fad if even that, but I figured it was worth mentioning that his earlier post might not have been completely unfounded. I suppose stating that will expose me to a world of pain and univoting, but right should be right. //L

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                                    Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                    Media2r wrote:

                                    ...but a certain individual in here does have a point(!).

                                    Well, if they combed their hair differently, it wouldn't be noticeable.

                                    CQ de W5ALT

                                    Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                      Wrench? We use hammers.

                                      Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services

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                                      Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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                                      I find a large welding mallot to work wonders when "reprogramming" hardware... :-\ Flynn

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                                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                                        let me know if caching issues with messages is showing more-than-normal weirdness

                                        It definitely does. I had never experienced any problem so far, I had several occurrences in the last few hours. I have indeed lost a post as Cpianism did, and _everytime_ I enter the Lounge, I have to refresh the cache to update the view. (I must acknowledge, I do leave the Lounge from time to time, when closing the browser by mistake :-O ).

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                                        Chris Maunder
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                                        How is it now? We turned off some caching on web21

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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