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    OriginalGriff wrote:

    I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in.

    Does that work?

    Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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    It depends on how broadly written the court order is... :((

    I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      RenniePet wrote:

      Previous standard for constants was THE_UPPERCASE_SCREAMING style, because constants are different

      Why? How is a constant different from a property with no setter? From an enum value? (And yes I do know a property could do other things...)

      RenniePet wrote:

      it makes sense to use the name of the method with the D added to the front.

      Again, why? If you have a delegate with only one method, why are you using a delegate? If you can have lots of methods assigned to a delegate, which one would you pick to use for the delegate name?

      RenniePet wrote:

      The use of enumerators often involves declaring a usage of the enumerator that naturally would have the same name as the enumerator itself, which isn't allowed.

      It is in C#!

              DownloaderReporting DownloaderReporting = 0;
              DownloaderReporting = DownloaderReporting.Normal;
      

      I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      That's just asking for a wet-kipper slap! :) I was going to suggest that itwould be better to camel the variable so:

      DownloaderReporting downloaderReporting = 0;
      downloaderReporting = DownloaderReporting.Normal;

      But then the property's still going to be:

      DownloaderReporting DownloaderReporting { get { return this.downloaderReporting; } }

      Either way, things'll go kaka quicker then you can even punch an MS employee's face.


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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        RenniePet wrote:

        Previous standard for constants was THE_UPPERCASE_SCREAMING style, because constants are different

        Why? How is a constant different from a property with no setter? From an enum value? (And yes I do know a property could do other things...)

        RenniePet wrote:

        it makes sense to use the name of the method with the D added to the front.

        Again, why? If you have a delegate with only one method, why are you using a delegate? If you can have lots of methods assigned to a delegate, which one would you pick to use for the delegate name?

        RenniePet wrote:

        The use of enumerators often involves declaring a usage of the enumerator that naturally would have the same name as the enumerator itself, which isn't allowed.

        It is in C#!

                DownloaderReporting DownloaderReporting = 0;
                DownloaderReporting = DownloaderReporting.Normal;
        

        I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

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        Maybe I'm not explaining myself very well ... Here are some examples:

          const string CServiceName = "Merlinia Process Manager";
        
          private delegate void DProcessProcessHasStopped(IntPtr processHandle);
          private DProcessProcessHasStopped \_processProcessHasStopped;
        
          
          private void InitializeCrossThreadInvocation()
          {
             \_processProcessHasStopped = ProcessProcessHasStopped;
          }
        
          
          private void CT\_ProcessProcessHasStopped(IntPtr processHandle)
          {
             base.InvokeDelegate(\_processProcessHasStopped, processHandle);
          }
        

        This is part of a pattern in a class that supports cross-thread invocation of methods.

        public enum EProcessStatus
        {
        ProcStopped,
        ProcStarting, // Has been started, but has not reported "up and running"
        ProcRunning,
        ProcStopping // Has been signaled to stop, but not stopped yet
        }

          public EProcessStatus ProcessStatus;
        
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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          It depends on how broadly written the court order is... :((

          I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          Find a target who travels. The joy of legal juristiction means that somewhere wont enforce the restraining order.


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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            Find a target who travels. The joy of legal juristiction means that somewhere wont enforce the restraining order.


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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            OriginalGriff
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            I bow to the expert in the field! Respect!

            I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              That's just asking for a wet-kipper slap! :) I was going to suggest that itwould be better to camel the variable so:

              DownloaderReporting downloaderReporting = 0;
              downloaderReporting = DownloaderReporting.Normal;

              But then the property's still going to be:

              DownloaderReporting DownloaderReporting { get { return this.downloaderReporting; } }

              Either way, things'll go kaka quicker then you can even punch an MS employee's face.


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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              OriginalGriff
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              Yes, normally I would camelCase it, but it was just an example to show it can be done in C#. Normally I would call it reportingReason or similar as I would consider it too confusing to use the enum name as the name for an instance of that enum - it would be like saying

              string string = "string";

              and expecting no-one to laugh at you...

              I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                I never said I was consistent!

                But you always say that!


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                Question: what do you call a char *? char * pntrCharArray = "Char Pointer"; CString cstrString;

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                  Yes, normally I would camelCase it, but it was just an example to show it can be done in C#. Normally I would call it reportingReason or similar as I would consider it too confusing to use the enum name as the name for an instance of that enum - it would be like saying

                  string string = "string";

                  and expecting no-one to laugh at you...

                  I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

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                  Ha ha!

                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                    Question: what do you call a char *? char * pntrCharArray = "Char Pointer"; CString cstrString;

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                    Nagy Vilmos
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                    TopCoder23 wrote:

                    what do you call a char *?

                    Earl Grey.


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                      I bow to the expert in the field! Respect!

                      I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

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                      Nagy Vilmos
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                      Is it too late to add "... or so I have heard."?


                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                        Yes, normally I would camelCase it, but it was just an example to show it can be done in C#. Normally I would call it reportingReason or similar as I would consider it too confusing to use the enum name as the name for an instance of that enum - it would be like saying

                        string string = "string";

                        and expecting no-one to laugh at you...

                        I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        Spam spam = Spam.WonderfulSpam;


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                          Is it too late to add "... or so I have heard."?


                          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                          OriginalGriff
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                          Oh yes! :laugh:

                          I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                            Maybe I'm not explaining myself very well ... Here are some examples:

                              const string CServiceName = "Merlinia Process Manager";
                            
                              private delegate void DProcessProcessHasStopped(IntPtr processHandle);
                              private DProcessProcessHasStopped \_processProcessHasStopped;
                            
                              
                              private void InitializeCrossThreadInvocation()
                              {
                                 \_processProcessHasStopped = ProcessProcessHasStopped;
                              }
                            
                              
                              private void CT\_ProcessProcessHasStopped(IntPtr processHandle)
                              {
                                 base.InvokeDelegate(\_processProcessHasStopped, processHandle);
                              }
                            

                            This is part of a pattern in a class that supports cross-thread invocation of methods.

                            public enum EProcessStatus
                            {
                            ProcStopped,
                            ProcStarting, // Has been started, but has not reported "up and running"
                            ProcRunning,
                            ProcStopping // Has been signaled to stop, but not stopped yet
                            }

                              public EProcessStatus ProcessStatus;
                            
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                            Henry Minute
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                            But, but, but .........

                            public enum EProcessStatus
                            {
                            ProcStopped,
                            ProcStarting, // Has been started, but has not reported "up and running"
                            ProcRunning,
                            ProcStopping // Has been signaled to stop, but not stopped yet
                            }

                              public EProcessStatus ProcessStatus { get; set; }
                            

                            surely?

                            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                              TopCoder23 wrote:

                              what do you call a char *?

                              Earl Grey.


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                              Garth J Lancaster
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                              har har !!!! I like it ...

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                                Ha ha!

                                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                OriginalGriff
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                                Thank you Nelson!

                                I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                  har har !!!! I like it ...

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                                  Nagy Vilmos
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                                  Milk? Sugar?


                                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                                    Beware all those who read the following, they are the irreverent ramblings of a heretic ... Religious beliefs are so tricky. For the true believer no alternatives can be possible. Their minds are closed. I was once a devout believer of Hungarian notation. Charles Simonyi was my guiding light. My strings were all szDecorated, and I was at peace with the world. But, as with all religions, there were those who would not accept the one true way. Hedonistic forces held sway at Microsoft, and .Net naming conventions repudiated Hungarian notation! I was thrown into confusion, and my world disintegrated around me! Had I been led astray? Were my beliefs really so faulty? All those years, for nothing? And then I noticed something incredibly suspect about the preachings of the anti-Hungarian notationalists. Despite their adamant claim that Hungarian notation was evil, they in reality espoused a corrupted form of Hungarian notation themselves! Yes, it is true, the anti-Hungarian notationalists are inconsistent! They call for the abolition of Hungarian notation, while preaching the following doctrine: - The names of interfaces must start with the letter I. - The names of types must start with the letter T. Why was this? How could they ask me to give up one faith for a new one that contradicted itself? And then one day my turmoil was resolved! In a moment of revelation the great nerd in the sky spoke to me: "Do not follow the preaching of others! Create your own religion, be true to yourself, and say to hell with the forces of conformity. It will be a rocky road, and you will be held in contempt, but you will discover an inner peace that not even Hungarian notation gave you." I call my new religion "one-garian notation". It can be considered to be a further development (or corruption, if you will) of the .Net naming conventions, where not just the names of interfaces and types have specific one-character prefixes, but the following as well: - The names of constants must start with the letter C. - The names of delegates must start with the letter D. - The names of enumerators must start with the letter E. That's it. One-garian notation (named because it is based on one-character prefixes) is the same as .Net naming conventions, plus the use of three additional one-character rules, for a total of

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                                    I've always despised Hungarian notation, because it breaks a basic tenet of object-oriented programming: hide the implementation. Encoding the variable type in the name binds you to a specific implementation. I've never seen a Hungarian-ophile who was sufficiently rigorous about refactoring when they changed the type of a variable to always change the name at the same time. You end up with a variable named iFixedSize and another ulFixedSize, they refer to the same thing, and are declared to be unsigned long's.

                                    Software Zen: delete this;
                                    Fold With Us![^]

                                    modified on Sunday, May 9, 2010 8:45 AM

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                                      But, but, but .........

                                      public enum EProcessStatus
                                      {
                                      ProcStopped,
                                      ProcStarting, // Has been started, but has not reported "up and running"
                                      ProcRunning,
                                      ProcStopping // Has been signaled to stop, but not stopped yet
                                      }

                                        public EProcessStatus ProcessStatus { get; set; }
                                      

                                      surely?

                                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                      OK, but my point is that you can't say this:

                                        public enum ProcessStatus
                                        {
                                           ProcStopped,
                                           ProcStarting,  // Has been started, but has not reported "up and running"
                                           ProcRunning,
                                           ProcStopping   // Has been signaled to stop, but not stopped yet
                                        }
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                        public ProcessStatus ProcessStatus { get; set; }
                                      

                                      That gives a compiler error.

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                                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                                        Milk? Sugar?


                                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                                        Garth J Lancaster
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                                        a drop of chateau moo (milk), pref low fat (ok, a purist would drink Earl Grey black I suspect) I never get the CC's , but made that connection [char -> Earl Grey] so quick I had to chuckle

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                                          Beware all those who read the following, they are the irreverent ramblings of a heretic ... Religious beliefs are so tricky. For the true believer no alternatives can be possible. Their minds are closed. I was once a devout believer of Hungarian notation. Charles Simonyi was my guiding light. My strings were all szDecorated, and I was at peace with the world. But, as with all religions, there were those who would not accept the one true way. Hedonistic forces held sway at Microsoft, and .Net naming conventions repudiated Hungarian notation! I was thrown into confusion, and my world disintegrated around me! Had I been led astray? Were my beliefs really so faulty? All those years, for nothing? And then I noticed something incredibly suspect about the preachings of the anti-Hungarian notationalists. Despite their adamant claim that Hungarian notation was evil, they in reality espoused a corrupted form of Hungarian notation themselves! Yes, it is true, the anti-Hungarian notationalists are inconsistent! They call for the abolition of Hungarian notation, while preaching the following doctrine: - The names of interfaces must start with the letter I. - The names of types must start with the letter T. Why was this? How could they ask me to give up one faith for a new one that contradicted itself? And then one day my turmoil was resolved! In a moment of revelation the great nerd in the sky spoke to me: "Do not follow the preaching of others! Create your own religion, be true to yourself, and say to hell with the forces of conformity. It will be a rocky road, and you will be held in contempt, but you will discover an inner peace that not even Hungarian notation gave you." I call my new religion "one-garian notation". It can be considered to be a further development (or corruption, if you will) of the .Net naming conventions, where not just the names of interfaces and types have specific one-character prefixes, but the following as well: - The names of constants must start with the letter C. - The names of delegates must start with the letter D. - The names of enumerators must start with the letter E. That's it. One-garian notation (named because it is based on one-character prefixes) is the same as .Net naming conventions, plus the use of three additional one-character rules, for a total of

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                                          Brady Kelly
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                                          RenniePet wrote:

                                          - The names of types must start with the letter T.

                                          WTF do you find that in .NET naming conventions?

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