It seems that Obama doesn't like criticism.
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He seems a bit brittle and defensive. Now he's sacked Gen McChrystal for daring to utter disparaging words; didn't he know that Obama walks on water (well, the oilier the water the better for this)?
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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He seems a bit brittle and defensive. Now he's sacked Gen McChrystal for daring to utter disparaging words; didn't he know that Obama walks on water (well, the oilier the water the better for this)?
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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He seems a bit brittle and defensive. Now he's sacked Gen McChrystal for daring to utter disparaging words; didn't he know that Obama walks on water (well, the oilier the water the better for this)?
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
It's not criticism, really... The guy made an idiot of himself in front of a Rolling Stone reporter... Here's the article[^] that caused this. If a politician said that kind of stuff in public (If you're talking to a reporter, it's public), he'd be out of a job and in the middle of a scandal twice as fast. Nothing particularly horrible... Just stuff you wouldn't want recorded. Think of it in terms of saying something nasty about your boss, and then finding out he's standing in the doorway.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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It's not criticism, really... The guy made an idiot of himself in front of a Rolling Stone reporter... Here's the article[^] that caused this. If a politician said that kind of stuff in public (If you're talking to a reporter, it's public), he'd be out of a job and in the middle of a scandal twice as fast. Nothing particularly horrible... Just stuff you wouldn't want recorded. Think of it in terms of saying something nasty about your boss, and then finding out he's standing in the doorway.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
Think of it in terms of saying something nasty about your boss, and then finding out he's standing in the doorway.
Or comparing him to Hitler and then wondering why you aren't in the third Transformers movie...
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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He seems a bit brittle and defensive. Now he's sacked Gen McChrystal for daring to utter disparaging words; didn't he know that Obama walks on water (well, the oilier the water the better for this)?
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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He seems a bit brittle and defensive. Now he's sacked Gen McChrystal for daring to utter disparaging words; didn't he know that Obama walks on water (well, the oilier the water the better for this)?
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Obama said the commentary in the article "undermines" civilian control over the military chain of command. "It erodes the trust that is necessary for our team to work together to achieve our objectives in Afghanistan," he said, adding: "Now is the time for all of us to come together."[^] It does not undermine it! It shows the extent to which the military will follow even as big a putz as Obama. The only issue is saying it in public. Too freaking bad.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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He seems a bit brittle and defensive. Now he's sacked Gen McChrystal for daring to utter disparaging words; didn't he know that Obama walks on water (well, the oilier the water the better for this)?
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Folks, the man is a General. This means there was an act of Congress required to promote him at one point or another. He had to get into the position to be considered and to get this. Anyone over Major in the military is a career solder AND a career politician. The two go hand in hand at that point. If you can't play the game, you will not be seeing stars on your shoulders. So when one of these individuals allows something like that to show up in a major publication, it is either a move to see how the President will react, or a major fustercluck. If it is the former, it is akin to a warning shot. "What you going to do, CiC? Bring it." If the latter "Whoops." If he was checking to see who would blink first, he lost. If it was a cluster, he doesn't play the game well enough and someone better at it will be doing the job soon enough. This isn't the first time someone with stars on his shoulders has decided to see if the CiC was a wuss, and I think in almost every case that has been a bad move for them, as the President doesn't have to bluff.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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He was making the split between politicals and military even worse. Telling it to Rolling Stone? Not a smart move.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
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Making it public was the only issue. You don't think the military joked on every president since GW (not Bush), you don't understand the military. But you keep it internal.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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Folks, the man is a General. This means there was an act of Congress required to promote him at one point or another. He had to get into the position to be considered and to get this. Anyone over Major in the military is a career solder AND a career politician. The two go hand in hand at that point. If you can't play the game, you will not be seeing stars on your shoulders. So when one of these individuals allows something like that to show up in a major publication, it is either a move to see how the President will react, or a major fustercluck. If it is the former, it is akin to a warning shot. "What you going to do, CiC? Bring it." If the latter "Whoops." If he was checking to see who would blink first, he lost. If it was a cluster, he doesn't play the game well enough and someone better at it will be doing the job soon enough. This isn't the first time someone with stars on his shoulders has decided to see if the CiC was a wuss, and I think in almost every case that has been a bad move for them, as the President doesn't have to bluff.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
it is either a move to see how the President will react, or a major fustercluck.
Or he wished to be relieved of a crappy command, and embarrass his civilian overlords.
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
it is either a move to see how the President will react, or a major fustercluck.
Or he wished to be relieved of a crappy command, and embarrass his civilian overlords.
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
Career suicide doesn't seem like a good option though. I would have looked for a better way out. ;)
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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Career suicide doesn't seem like a good option though. I would have looked for a better way out. ;)
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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The issue is that it has developed into a blame culture and that has to be dealth with. They are supposed to fight the Taleban not each other.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
Did you read the article? Go through it and tell me where McChrystal blames the administration for anything. He makes a couple of quips about how to blow off questions about Biden - not quips about Biden. He learned that last time. I do see the blame culture, I just didn't see the General doing it.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
Career suicide doesn't seem like a good option though.
Unless you know that staying would be worse.
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
Very true. But a General always has a few options. Presidents come and go, but generals last generations.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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The issue is that it has developed into a blame culture and that has to be dealth with. They are supposed to fight the Taleban not each other.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
When politicians lie to get elected, and the government micromanages everything, and spends the country into oblivion making the regular tax paying joe responsible for paying it back, you are damn right people are going to blame the government. The government is responsible for most of our problems. You could blame the "little people" for submitting to big government, but what else can they do? If they don't submit, they get punished.
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Making it public was the only issue. You don't think the military joked on every president since GW (not Bush), you don't understand the military. But you keep it internal.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
This is very, very true.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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When politicians lie to get elected, and the government micromanages everything, and spends the country into oblivion making the regular tax paying joe responsible for paying it back, you are damn right people are going to blame the government. The government is responsible for most of our problems. You could blame the "little people" for submitting to big government, but what else can they do? If they don't submit, they get punished.
Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You could blame the "little people" for submitting to big government, but what else can they do? If they don't submit, they get punished.
Absolving yourself, little person?
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
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Folks, the man is a General. This means there was an act of Congress required to promote him at one point or another. He had to get into the position to be considered and to get this. Anyone over Major in the military is a career solder AND a career politician. The two go hand in hand at that point. If you can't play the game, you will not be seeing stars on your shoulders. So when one of these individuals allows something like that to show up in a major publication, it is either a move to see how the President will react, or a major fustercluck. If it is the former, it is akin to a warning shot. "What you going to do, CiC? Bring it." If the latter "Whoops." If he was checking to see who would blink first, he lost. If it was a cluster, he doesn't play the game well enough and someone better at it will be doing the job soon enough. This isn't the first time someone with stars on his shoulders has decided to see if the CiC was a wuss, and I think in almost every case that has been a bad move for them, as the President doesn't have to bluff.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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He seems a bit brittle and defensive. Now he's sacked Gen McChrystal for daring to utter disparaging words; didn't he know that Obama walks on water (well, the oilier the water the better for this)?
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
fustercluck
This deserves a 5. :laugh:
Opacity, the new Transparency.
Is it sad that we used that term a lot in the military? Ticked off the PC hippies that hated swearing.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.