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  • H Henry Minute

    If you are doubting the voracity of the statements regarding the law, rather than the histrionic way it was delivered, then I have to tell you that it is substantially correct. Of course, if you have sufficient, large witnesses to hand who are prepared to swear that the oafs broke in whilst you were inside, eviction is a lot less costly. :-D

    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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    Henry Minute wrote:

    If you are doubting the voracity of the statements regarding the law, rather than the histrionic way it was delivered, then I have to tell you that it is substantially correct.

    Actually I was referring to the horrible spelling and grammar but the histrionic delivery didn't help.

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      I was not snubbing you but you do have a tendency to go a little over the top sometimes. Perhaps it's just my British reserve. :)

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      code_wiz
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      No problem Mate, i understand what you say about me :) but i do get really annoyed when I see bizarre things happening that should not happen at all.

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        Guys, I was listening to the LBC 97.3 this evening, and i came to know about one piece of legislation in this country that is shameless and stinking. The is apparently called squatter's law/rights, whereby a person could just get into anybody's house, lets say when the residents had gone out for a little shopping for an hour or so, and can claim ownership and live there, and the owners / legal residents there cannot do anything about it, other than to go to court to evict the squatters out the premises!!!! We british always moan about people coming into this country, and we paint them all with the same brush as illegal or stealing jobs fom us, and costing our NHS a lot etc, irrespective of the fact that these lelga immigrants might be ading value to this country and go about minding their own business. Now compare that to squatter rights, and one of the advocate in that program says this is a very usual thing that happens in Britain, and day in and day out this happensm and legal owners will have to spend 10s of thousands of pounds to get the squatters out of the property, via court. I wonder why we have a law that allows British people to let do illegal tresspass into other's houses, and say sorry we can;t do anything about it, please go to court and get them out!!!! Just so you know... if you leave for work in the morning, and when you get back home, you can expect squatters in your home, and not allow you to come in, until you go to court to take them out. From what the advocate said in the program, I believe the squatters break in, and change the lock, and that is it! They can;t be touiched by police or whoever! Shameless British law!!!!! If we let this continue, no one will have any intention to work and earn, they will simply move into other's houses as they wish.

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        Wjousts
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        You know that's existed for centuries right? Not exactly breaking news.

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          Henry Minute wrote:

          If you are doubting the voracity of the statements regarding the law, rather than the histrionic way it was delivered, then I have to tell you that it is substantially correct.

          Actually I was referring to the horrible spelling and grammar but the histrionic delivery didn't help.

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          code_wiz
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          Hmmm in that case you might want to use proper words too - "didn't" is no proper English word. We can go on and on about this. Forget it!

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          • D Dalek Dave

            It also then descends to a civil matter, not a criminal one, and the police have no jurisdiction.

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            Henry Minute
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            Dalek Dave wrote:

            It also then descends to a civil matter, not a criminal one, and the police have no jurisdiction.

            I thought I said that, but yes you are right. :)

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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              Hmmm in that case you might want to use proper words too - "didn't" is no proper English word. We can go on and on about this. Forget it!

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              Dalek Dave
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              Didn't you learn English as a child? Didn't is a perfectly cromulent word. Contraction of Did Not. I Haven't wasted your time have I? :)

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                We have done this, with police present, and there was no problem.

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                I don't think it was the police that helped your situation there, it might have been the "some muscle-bound friends" that did the trick to sort out things there :)

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                  You know that's existed for centuries right? Not exactly breaking news.

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                  It was a breaking news for me, and from teh answers from some here, i can see it was a breaking news for many here. Now, it is a shameful matter for us British, irrespective of whether it is breaking news or not!

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                    I don't think it was the police that helped your situation there, it might have been the "some muscle-bound friends" that did the trick to sort out things there :)

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    The word is Don't, not Don;t Teh? What is Teh? However, as we were told by the officer present, "Carry On".

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                      It was a breaking news for me, and from teh answers from some here, i can see it was a breaking news for many here. Now, it is a shameful matter for us British, irrespective of whether it is breaking news or not!

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                      The word is THE, not TEH, TEH is what the ignorant say.

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                        The word is Don't, not Don;t Teh? What is Teh? However, as we were told by the officer present, "Carry On".

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                        code_wiz
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                        Apologies for my spell and grammar mistakes in my post.

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                          It was a breaking news for me, and from teh answers from some here, i can see it was a breaking news for many here. Now, it is a shameful matter for us British, irrespective of whether it is breaking news or not!

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                          Distind
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                          I'm reasonably sure I've seen similar laws in a few places. Generally applied to vacant and/or abandoned properties which no one is taking care of. If someone moves in and actually takes care of it it winds up belonging to them. That said, breaking and entering or trespassing are crimes most anywhere, so I've never understood how in the blazes these laws managed to work. Though thinking about it, the law will probably side with whoever pays taxes to them that year.

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                            It also then descends to a civil matter, not a criminal one, and the police have no jurisdiction.

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                            Henry Minute
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                            I remembered that tonight would be good for the Perseids, and what is the seeing like?

                            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                              Guys, I was listening to the LBC 97.3 this evening, and i came to know about one piece of legislation in this country that is shameless and stinking. The is apparently called squatter's law/rights, whereby a person could just get into anybody's house, lets say when the residents had gone out for a little shopping for an hour or so, and can claim ownership and live there, and the owners / legal residents there cannot do anything about it, other than to go to court to evict the squatters out the premises!!!! We british always moan about people coming into this country, and we paint them all with the same brush as illegal or stealing jobs fom us, and costing our NHS a lot etc, irrespective of the fact that these lelga immigrants might be ading value to this country and go about minding their own business. Now compare that to squatter rights, and one of the advocate in that program says this is a very usual thing that happens in Britain, and day in and day out this happensm and legal owners will have to spend 10s of thousands of pounds to get the squatters out of the property, via court. I wonder why we have a law that allows British people to let do illegal tresspass into other's houses, and say sorry we can;t do anything about it, please go to court and get them out!!!! Just so you know... if you leave for work in the morning, and when you get back home, you can expect squatters in your home, and not allow you to come in, until you go to court to take them out. From what the advocate said in the program, I believe the squatters break in, and change the lock, and that is it! They can;t be touiched by police or whoever! Shameless British law!!!!! If we let this continue, no one will have any intention to work and earn, they will simply move into other's houses as they wish.

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                              Didn't the British invent squatting? Only in your country not your flat! :-D

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                                Here[^] take a look at the 'What you can and can't do' section. It could happen as code_wiz suggests. As far as damaging the property to gain access part goes the good old 'A big boy did it and ran away' defence often works because as far as the police are concerned it becomes a 'he said, she said' situation. With no certainty of a conviction and the civil law available the police will often opt for the path of least resistance.

                                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                Henry Minute wrote:

                                It could happen as code_wiz suggests.

                                A famous old American baseball player named Yogi Berra was very "quotable". One of my favorite Berra quotes is: "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." With that in mind, how often does this situation happen as described. A tenant/owner pops out for tea and returns an hour later to find themselves "evicted" from their homes by squatters? Would the police REALLY do nothing? Or would they arrest the squatters for B&E?

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                                  As I recall someone can only squat* in an empty (unoccupied) house. *Is it me, or does "squat" seem a ridiculous name?


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                                  Joe Simes
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                                  Lloyd Atkinson wrote:

                                  *Is it me, or does "squat" seem a ridiculous name?

                                  Well you can squat or you can hunker down. Hunkerer is a ridiculous name! :)

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                                    Henry Minute wrote:

                                    It could happen as code_wiz suggests.

                                    A famous old American baseball player named Yogi Berra was very "quotable". One of my favorite Berra quotes is: "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." With that in mind, how often does this situation happen as described. A tenant/owner pops out for tea and returns an hour later to find themselves "evicted" from their homes by squatters? Would the police REALLY do nothing? Or would they arrest the squatters for B&E?

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                                    Henry Minute
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                                    It does happen. I don't think it happens often, in that way, probably rarely. Squatting is however a big problem and people have been granted ownership of properties after squatting in them for a period, 12 years I think.

                                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                      Didn't the British invent squatting? Only in your country not your flat! :-D

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                                      Henry Minute
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                                      :laugh: Well we used to call it helping ourselves the less fortunate.

                                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        The word is THE, not TEH, TEH is what the ignorant say.

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                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        TEH is what the ignorant say.

                                        Exactly!

                                        It's time for a new signature.

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                                        • H Henry Minute

                                          I remembered that tonight would be good for the Perseids, and what is the seeing like?

                                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                          Luc Pattyn
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                                          afraid of leaving the house, you watch them by proxy? :)

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