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  • S Sandeep Mewara

    What about interruptions like Servers and VPC shutting down abruptly? Builds and analysis that take 3-4 hours at a stretch?

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    An interrupted build isn't going to kill any unsaved work. At worst, the build is going to start from the beginning. But I'd agree that such a total power failure can be frustrating.

    There are some really weird people on this planet - MIM.

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    • S Sandeep Mewara

      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

      What is this unsaved work you speak of?

      1. Documentation work 2. Composing Email 3. Some Code/logic work 4. Builds/computation that takes 2-3 hours 5. etc...

      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

      I hit Alt+F+S so often that I even do it

      Well, very few does this. I surely not. I forgot to mention the real problem, all the servers and VPC's got shutdown! Hope you can understand how much that can affect work.

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      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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      My point was that you should make it a habit. It is a very good habit. In fact it is one of the most important habits. Most of us learn, very early in our careers, to save early and save often.

      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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      • S Sandeep Mewara

        We had a power cut in office today... UPS too trips down and we lost our unsaved work! It took the maintenance guys an hour to bring back the network up and running again. :doh:

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        Maximilien
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        Sandeep Mewara wrote:

        UPS too trips down and we lost our unsaved work!

        just think about your backups... you have backups, but did you ever tried to recover them ? :rolleyes:

        Watched code never compiles.

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        • S Sandeep Mewara

          What about interruptions like Servers and VPC shutting down abruptly? Builds and analysis that take 3-4 hours at a stretch?

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          Mladen Jankovic
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          Losing 3 hours of work that is automated is nothing compared to losing 3 hours of unsaved programming work.

          [Genetic Algorithm Library] [Wowd]

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          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

            An interrupted build isn't going to kill any unsaved work. At worst, the build is going to start from the beginning. But I'd agree that such a total power failure can be frustrating.

            There are some really weird people on this planet - MIM.

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            Sandeep Mewara
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            Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

            An interrupted build isn't going to kill any unsaved work

            Agreed. But what about if I say, roughly around 3pm we get a fresh build daily to work on? Didn't that interrupted the whole part? It takes 2-3 hours to complete... what now?

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              Losing 3 hours of work that is automated is nothing compared to losing 3 hours of unsaved programming work.

              [Genetic Algorithm Library] [Wowd]

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              Sandeep Mewara
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              Mladen Jankovic wrote:

              Losing 3 hours of work that is automated is nothing compared

              Dependant work on the automated work does matter.

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                Sandeep Mewara wrote:

                UPS too trips down and we lost our unsaved work!

                just think about your backups... you have backups, but did you ever tried to recover them ? :rolleyes:

                Watched code never compiles.

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                Sandeep Mewara
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                Maximilien wrote:

                you have backups, but did you ever tried to recover them

                Not sure, of what kind of backup you are talking of here. Personally, I keep backups of my work and use it as and when required.

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                • M Maximilien

                  Sandeep Mewara wrote:

                  UPS too trips down and we lost our unsaved work!

                  just think about your backups... you have backups, but did you ever tried to recover them ? :rolleyes:

                  Watched code never compiles.

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                  AspDotNetDev
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                  At my last company, there was a server failure during a backup. Unfortunately, the current backup completely obliterates the previous backup, so they were left with no backup. That was a fun one to recover from.

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                  • S Sandeep Mewara

                    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                    An interrupted build isn't going to kill any unsaved work

                    Agreed. But what about if I say, roughly around 3pm we get a fresh build daily to work on? Didn't that interrupted the whole part? It takes 2-3 hours to complete... what now?

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                    Mladen Jankovic
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                    Sandeep Mewara wrote:

                    what now?

                    2012, two years earlier.

                    [Genetic Algorithm Library] [Wowd]

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      My point was that you should make it a habit. It is a very good habit. In fact it is one of the most important habits. Most of us learn, very early in our careers, to save early and save often.

                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                      Sandeep Mewara
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                      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                      My point was that you should make it a habit.

                      :). While working on some code piece, I try to. But, not too often while documentation or so. As a team though, every individual is different and has own way of working. Then the servers and virtual machines that gets shutdown abruptly creates issues next time we try to logon (espacially VPC's). Lots of working hours wasted. :doh:

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                      • M Mladen Jankovic

                        Sandeep Mewara wrote:

                        what now?

                        2012, two years earlier.

                        [Genetic Algorithm Library] [Wowd]

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                        :)

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                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                          My point was that you should make it a habit. It is a very good habit. In fact it is one of the most important habits. Most of us learn, very early in our careers, to save early and save often.

                          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                          It is a very good habit.

                          Unless you are working with an office plugin that takes 30 seconds for each save, blocking Word. Still, 5.

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                          • S Sandeep Mewara

                            We had a power cut in office today... UPS too trips down and we lost our unsaved work! It took the maintenance guys an hour to bring back the network up and running again. :doh:

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                            Joe Woodbury
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                            I've had more than one UPS stop working as such without any warning whatsoever until the power went down and so did the UPS.

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                            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                              My point was that you should make it a habit. It is a very good habit. In fact it is one of the most important habits. Most of us learn, very early in our careers, to save early and save often.

                              Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                              Chris Meech
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                              Are you still talking about code? That expression applies to a lot of other things too. :)

                              Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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                              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                What is this unsaved work you speak of? I hit Alt+F+S so often that I even do it in Query Analyzer before exiting a query screen (Although in this case I usually don't want to save).

                                Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                                fjdiewornncalwe
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                                That's what I'm known for in the office, too... Every couple of seconds people are hearing a ridiculously quick keystroke combination and usually multiple times. Alt-F-S is your friend, my friend...

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                                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                  My point was that you should make it a habit. It is a very good habit. In fact it is one of the most important habits. Most of us learn, very early in our careers, to save early and save often.

                                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                                  CTRL+S <type word> CTRL+S Yes, I have used Corel software before - how did you know?

                                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                                    At my last company, there was a server failure during a backup. Unfortunately, the current backup completely obliterates the previous backup, so they were left with no backup. That was a fun one to recover from.

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    aspdotnetdev wrote:

                                    At my last company, there was a server failure during a backup. Unfortunately, the current backup completely obliterates the previous backup, so they were left with no backup

                                    :sigh: That's something we were taught how to avoid in CS101.

                                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                      My point was that you should make it a habit. It is a very good habit. In fact it is one of the most important habits. Most of us learn, very early in our careers, to save early and save often.

                                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                                      Distind
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                                      Between the odd power outage and some oversold bandwidth between me and my production server I do it almost constantly. Now I just need to remember which editor it was I was using that ctrl-s did something completely different and I was frustrating the snot out of myself because I couldn't stop myself from pressing it. I think I used it for all of an hour before switching to note pad and eventually copying my file into the other editor for some reason or another.

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                                        aspdotnetdev wrote:

                                        At my last company, there was a server failure during a backup. Unfortunately, the current backup completely obliterates the previous backup, so they were left with no backup

                                        :sigh: That's something we were taught how to avoid in CS101.

                                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                        AspDotNetDev
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                                        Seems like it would go without saying. I'm not even sure they fixed the backup procedures after that monumental failure. They wanted to downplay it like it wasn't a big deal, so they couldn't allocate resources to fix a problem that wasn't a big deal. Excellent plan. Excellent. X|

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                                        • S Sandeep Mewara

                                          We had a power cut in office today... UPS too trips down and we lost our unsaved work! It took the maintenance guys an hour to bring back the network up and running again. :doh:

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                                          JimmyRopes
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                                          We had that happen about 2 weeks ago when some storms rolled through. It was also the first time that has ever happened to me at work. The bad part about it is that last year the building was closed for a day because an "upgrade" to the electrical system caught fire the first time it was under load. We had portable generators in trucks powering the complex for a week until the contractor could get a new permanent generator installed. Apparently this contractor didn't do a good job of it.

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