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    A man killed in a motorbike crash in south Manchester was a suspected thief who police previously refused to pursue because he was not wearing a helmet. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11211260[^] "At the time, Greater Manchester Police said it followed a nationwide policy that motorbikes should not be pursued because of the higher risk of injury to the rider." Unbelievable! Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

    He took it all too far, but boy could he play guitar!

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      A man killed in a motorbike crash in south Manchester was a suspected thief who police previously refused to pursue because he was not wearing a helmet. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11211260[^] "At the time, Greater Manchester Police said it followed a nationwide policy that motorbikes should not be pursued because of the higher risk of injury to the rider." Unbelievable! Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

      He took it all too far, but boy could he play guitar!

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      What the hell, mate !

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        A man killed in a motorbike crash in south Manchester was a suspected thief who police previously refused to pursue because he was not wearing a helmet. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11211260[^] "At the time, Greater Manchester Police said it followed a nationwide policy that motorbikes should not be pursued because of the higher risk of injury to the rider." Unbelievable! Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

        He took it all too far, but boy could he play guitar!

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        Baconbutty wrote:

        Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

        I hardly think that death is "just desserts" for theft. In the US, it might be OK to shoot an unarmed thief in the back (and the pregnant woman just beyond him) in a crowded city street, or to maim a dozen or so (I believe the policing manual says no more than 15 per hour) innocent bystanders by provoking people to drive dangerously to escape being arrested for petty theft, but I don't think we need that kind of thing in Blighty. [edit] "Mr Hodgkins, from Wythenshawe, had been due to answer bail on 10 September over the Altrincham theft." So they knew who he was, where he lived, etc, and he was being processed for the crime (although why he still had the bike, I've no idea). Why risk harming or killing people, if the process works without it?

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          A man killed in a motorbike crash in south Manchester was a suspected thief who police previously refused to pursue because he was not wearing a helmet. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11211260[^] "At the time, Greater Manchester Police said it followed a nationwide policy that motorbikes should not be pursued because of the higher risk of injury to the rider." Unbelievable! Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

          He took it all too far, but boy could he play guitar!

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          Baconbutty wrote:

          so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

          I don't regard death as the right punishment for a bike thief. :)

          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
          [My articles]

          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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            A man killed in a motorbike crash in south Manchester was a suspected thief who police previously refused to pursue because he was not wearing a helmet. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11211260[^] "At the time, Greater Manchester Police said it followed a nationwide policy that motorbikes should not be pursued because of the higher risk of injury to the rider." Unbelievable! Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

            He took it all too far, but boy could he play guitar!

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            I'm of the personal opinion that high-speed chases aren't warranted under any circumstances.

            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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              A man killed in a motorbike crash in south Manchester was a suspected thief who police previously refused to pursue because he was not wearing a helmet. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11211260[^] "At the time, Greater Manchester Police said it followed a nationwide policy that motorbikes should not be pursued because of the higher risk of injury to the rider." Unbelievable! Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

              He took it all too far, but boy could he play guitar!

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              Isn't chasing a thief "low tech" ?

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                Baconbutty wrote:

                so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

                I don't regard death as the right punishment for a bike thief. :)

                If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                [My articles]

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                unless it's my bike, of course.

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                  Baconbutty wrote:

                  Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

                  I hardly think that death is "just desserts" for theft. In the US, it might be OK to shoot an unarmed thief in the back (and the pregnant woman just beyond him) in a crowded city street, or to maim a dozen or so (I believe the policing manual says no more than 15 per hour) innocent bystanders by provoking people to drive dangerously to escape being arrested for petty theft, but I don't think we need that kind of thing in Blighty. [edit] "Mr Hodgkins, from Wythenshawe, had been due to answer bail on 10 September over the Altrincham theft." So they knew who he was, where he lived, etc, and he was being processed for the crime (although why he still had the bike, I've no idea). Why risk harming or killing people, if the process works without it?

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  Mark Wallace wrote:

                  by provoking people to drive dangerously to escape being arrested for petty theft

                  While I don't think all of the high speed chases are justified, and they certainly are dangerous, the police seem extremely cautious in the videos I've seen. It's the criminal who is the problem. How can you say the police "provoke" them to drive dangerously? All they were trying to do is arrest or pull them over, then they take off. Now, that usually means the criminal is scared shitless about something more than whatever it is the cop originally targeted them for. The cops give chase, usually at a good distance while they coordinate roadblocks down the road. What would you have them do, let them go? Say, "Oh well, I guess we'll get him next time." How you can put their reckless behavior on the shoulders of the police is baffling.


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                    Baconbutty wrote:

                    Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

                    I hardly think that death is "just desserts" for theft. In the US, it might be OK to shoot an unarmed thief in the back (and the pregnant woman just beyond him) in a crowded city street, or to maim a dozen or so (I believe the policing manual says no more than 15 per hour) innocent bystanders by provoking people to drive dangerously to escape being arrested for petty theft, but I don't think we need that kind of thing in Blighty. [edit] "Mr Hodgkins, from Wythenshawe, had been due to answer bail on 10 September over the Altrincham theft." So they knew who he was, where he lived, etc, and he was being processed for the crime (although why he still had the bike, I've no idea). Why risk harming or killing people, if the process works without it?

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Maybe they only found out his name and address after they scraped his ass off the road?

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                      unless it's my bike, of course.

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                      Nope, even if it is your bike. :rolleyes:

                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                      [My articles]

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                        Nope, even if it is your bike. :rolleyes:

                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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                        What if he nearly ran me over on the footpath while escaping and when I yelled at him he showed me the finger...the middle finger that is?

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                          Maybe they only found out his name and address after they scraped his ass off the road?

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                          He was due to attend court. So I suspect, only suspect, note, that they might already have had his details. :)

                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                            A man killed in a motorbike crash in south Manchester was a suspected thief who police previously refused to pursue because he was not wearing a helmet. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11211260[^] "At the time, Greater Manchester Police said it followed a nationwide policy that motorbikes should not be pursued because of the higher risk of injury to the rider." Unbelievable! Everyone gets their just desserts so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

                            He took it all too far, but boy could he play guitar!

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                            Chris Maunder
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                            Since when was theft a capital offence?

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              He was due to attend court. So I suspect, only suspect, note, that they might already have had his details. :)

                              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                              Mladen Jankovic
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                              Yes, but were they aware of his identity before they had decided not to pursue him?

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                                Yes, but were they aware of his identity before they had decided not to pursue him?

                                [Genetic Algorithm Library] [Wowd]

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                                Henry Minute
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                                They pretty much must have been, then or immediately afterwards, because they were able to serve him with a summons for the incident.

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                                  Baconbutty wrote:

                                  so thank goodness some higher power intervened on behalf of our considerate police force and their overlord's crass instructions.

                                  I don't regard death as the right punishment for a bike thief. :)

                                  If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                  This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                                  [My articles]

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                                  You're right, such a course of action wouldn't give the scumbag enough time to think over his actions. Pliers and a blowtorch all the way! Bike thieves, aaargh (15 years and I still miss my LC350 :-( )

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                                    Since when was theft a capital offence?

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Henry Minute
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                                    I did not shoot the Deputy!!

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                                      I'm of the personal opinion that high-speed chases aren't warranted under any circumstances.

                                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                      -----
                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                      -----
                                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                      How would the police have caught him or pursued him?

                                      That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                        Since when was theft a capital offence?

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                                        If it happens in a capitol city? Buh-dump-dump.

                                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                          Oh well, if he showed you the middle finger then he deserves the death for sure... :laugh:

                                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                                          [My articles]

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                                          Ahh!! I see there is still common sense and reason with you!

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