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    SockPuppeteer
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    So - I started a small business a while ago, developing software for a particular market, in partnership with a distant relative who works in that area. So, I spent approx $50,000 of my time and cash in my 'spare' time developing the software, installing it on a server, hosting it, updating it. My partner essentially ran the software a couple of times (testing) and pretty much F* all else. So I gave up on him and decided to go it alone - but don't have the business background, and wanted to start again on the software - both to ensure there's no argument about his involvement, and to improve on what I did by using new methodology and software. I heard about BizSpark[^], read up a bit, applied and was granted membership. So, now I have access to stuff like VS2010, windows 7 ... in fact about the entire range of Microsoft products. For free. (for design develop test and demo) No way could I have afforded this - I was looking at a MySQL DB for example - now I can go SQL Server - and if I understand the small print, I can keep using this all for the business, for three years, at the end of which I bung them $100, or can continue with an MSDN subscription at reduced cost. I mean - why wouldn't you?

    .\\axxx

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      So - I started a small business a while ago, developing software for a particular market, in partnership with a distant relative who works in that area. So, I spent approx $50,000 of my time and cash in my 'spare' time developing the software, installing it on a server, hosting it, updating it. My partner essentially ran the software a couple of times (testing) and pretty much F* all else. So I gave up on him and decided to go it alone - but don't have the business background, and wanted to start again on the software - both to ensure there's no argument about his involvement, and to improve on what I did by using new methodology and software. I heard about BizSpark[^], read up a bit, applied and was granted membership. So, now I have access to stuff like VS2010, windows 7 ... in fact about the entire range of Microsoft products. For free. (for design develop test and demo) No way could I have afforded this - I was looking at a MySQL DB for example - now I can go SQL Server - and if I understand the small print, I can keep using this all for the business, for three years, at the end of which I bung them $100, or can continue with an MSDN subscription at reduced cost. I mean - why wouldn't you?

      .\\axxx

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      Drug dealers start the same way. Try this out, free, then when you are hooked, start charging for their product.:)

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        Drug dealers start the same way. Try this out, free, then when you are hooked, start charging for their product.:)

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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        They do that with Azure, for sure! You get a reasonable amount of Cloud for free - but assuming your business get's off the ground, it looks to me that you will be selling off your first born to support your habit! With the software, I'm already an addict, so I'm just getting cheap shit that I'd be smoking anyway.

        .\\axxx

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          So - I started a small business a while ago, developing software for a particular market, in partnership with a distant relative who works in that area. So, I spent approx $50,000 of my time and cash in my 'spare' time developing the software, installing it on a server, hosting it, updating it. My partner essentially ran the software a couple of times (testing) and pretty much F* all else. So I gave up on him and decided to go it alone - but don't have the business background, and wanted to start again on the software - both to ensure there's no argument about his involvement, and to improve on what I did by using new methodology and software. I heard about BizSpark[^], read up a bit, applied and was granted membership. So, now I have access to stuff like VS2010, windows 7 ... in fact about the entire range of Microsoft products. For free. (for design develop test and demo) No way could I have afforded this - I was looking at a MySQL DB for example - now I can go SQL Server - and if I understand the small print, I can keep using this all for the business, for three years, at the end of which I bung them $100, or can continue with an MSDN subscription at reduced cost. I mean - why wouldn't you?

          .\\axxx

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          I am also a member and it is a good deal for small bizs. I also turned on a friend of mine in Chicago area!

          Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity. http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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            Drug dealers start the same way. Try this out, free, then when you are hooked, start charging for their product.:)

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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              Drug dealers start the same way. Try this out, free, then when you are hooked, start charging for their product.:)

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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              I wouldn't call MS software addictive, captive yes. :)

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                So - I started a small business a while ago, developing software for a particular market, in partnership with a distant relative who works in that area. So, I spent approx $50,000 of my time and cash in my 'spare' time developing the software, installing it on a server, hosting it, updating it. My partner essentially ran the software a couple of times (testing) and pretty much F* all else. So I gave up on him and decided to go it alone - but don't have the business background, and wanted to start again on the software - both to ensure there's no argument about his involvement, and to improve on what I did by using new methodology and software. I heard about BizSpark[^], read up a bit, applied and was granted membership. So, now I have access to stuff like VS2010, windows 7 ... in fact about the entire range of Microsoft products. For free. (for design develop test and demo) No way could I have afforded this - I was looking at a MySQL DB for example - now I can go SQL Server - and if I understand the small print, I can keep using this all for the business, for three years, at the end of which I bung them $100, or can continue with an MSDN subscription at reduced cost. I mean - why wouldn't you?

                .\\axxx

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                Yes, Microsoft rocks for ISVs! Note after your subscription expires you can become a microsoft partner which still saves you a lot.

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                  So - I started a small business a while ago, developing software for a particular market, in partnership with a distant relative who works in that area. So, I spent approx $50,000 of my time and cash in my 'spare' time developing the software, installing it on a server, hosting it, updating it. My partner essentially ran the software a couple of times (testing) and pretty much F* all else. So I gave up on him and decided to go it alone - but don't have the business background, and wanted to start again on the software - both to ensure there's no argument about his involvement, and to improve on what I did by using new methodology and software. I heard about BizSpark[^], read up a bit, applied and was granted membership. So, now I have access to stuff like VS2010, windows 7 ... in fact about the entire range of Microsoft products. For free. (for design develop test and demo) No way could I have afforded this - I was looking at a MySQL DB for example - now I can go SQL Server - and if I understand the small print, I can keep using this all for the business, for three years, at the end of which I bung them $100, or can continue with an MSDN subscription at reduced cost. I mean - why wouldn't you?

                  .\\axxx

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                  How long did it take for the App to be processed? Any problems? I had a quick look - all I have time for today - but it could be well worth my applying.

                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                    I am also a member and it is a good deal for small bizs. I also turned on a friend of mine in Chicago area!

                    Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity. http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                    Mike Hankey wrote:

                    I also turned on a friend of mine in Chicago area!

                    BizSpark can do that for you? Wow. MS really need to start advertising these features more - it would make for a much more entertaining advert than all that I'm a PC crap.

                    I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

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                      Mike Hankey wrote:

                      I also turned on a friend of mine in Chicago area!

                      BizSpark can do that for you? Wow. MS really need to start advertising these features more - it would make for a much more entertaining advert than all that I'm a PC crap.

                      I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      I also turned on a friend of mine in Chicago area!

                      That didn't turn out quite right did it? They do do some good things but don't advertise, I guess cause a lot of people would take advantage of it and sales would suffer. They really do need to work on their adverts though I agree, they suck the big one.

                      Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity. http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                        Yes, Microsoft rocks for ISVs! Note after your subscription expires you can become a microsoft partner which still saves you a lot.

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                        wout de zeeuw
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                        There used to be a Micro ISV membership last year (Microsoft Empower for ISVs), but it has been discontinued as of last May. I guess it was perhaps too successful?

                        Wout

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                          There used to be a Micro ISV membership last year (Microsoft Empower for ISVs), but it has been discontinued as of last May. I guess it was perhaps too successful?

                          Wout

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                          Dalek Dave
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                          Well, Bill Gates could not be described as being as generous as Timon could he?

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                            Well, Bill Gates could not be described as being as generous as Timon could he?

                            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                            wout de zeeuw
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                            Apparently last year he could, but at the moment not anymore indeed. But, I downloaded all the keys and iso's that I need, so with a bit of luck I won't need MSDN anymore until the next VS release.

                            Wout

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                              How long did it take for the App to be processed? Any problems? I had a quick look - all I have time for today - but it could be well worth my applying.

                              Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                              i filled in the form, with all my contact details and a one-liner about the business. I got acknowledgement email the same day saying someone would be in touch. I got acceptance email less than 2 days later - no email, no call, nothing.

                              ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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