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  • S Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib

    We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?

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    Roger Wright
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    Since I'm neither, I can give you an unbiased answer. A Developer does far more than just program. What your company gives you for a title means little, but if you have to analyze the problem, determine the requirements, allocate tasks among modules or between hardware and software, create the test plan, prepare the user documentation, meet with customers to discuss the project and the requirements, then you're a developer, whether you type code or not. If you receive a set of specs or requirements, have little influence over them, but are expected to deliver a piece of software that meets them, you're a programmer. As one who has done all of these in the past, and hired many others to do the same since, I think quite a lot of people in this profession are both developers and programmers, with different roles becoming dominant depending on the tasks assigned.

    Will Rogers never met me.

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    • S Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib

      We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?

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      Henry Minute
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      Developers are often programmers. Programmers are mostly not developers.

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

        most of us have a degree in computer science

        I suspect you'll find most here don't. I don't.

        Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

        whats makes the difference

        Sex appeal. Raw animal magnetism. Amazing prowess in the undercracker department.

        I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

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        AspDotNetDev
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        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

        I suspect you'll find most here don't.

        I do. Would be an interesting CP poll.

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        • H Henry Minute

          Developers are often programmers. Programmers are mostly not developers.

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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          Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib
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          Henry Minute wrote:

          Developers are often programmers. Programmers are mostly not developers.

          Bravo :-D

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

            most of us have a degree in computer science

            I suspect you'll find most here don't. I don't.

            Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

            whats makes the difference

            Sex appeal. Raw animal magnetism. Amazing prowess in the undercracker department.

            I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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            Lost User
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            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            Raw animal magnetism

            I avoid going near railway tracks.

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            • S Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib

              We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?

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              Lost User
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              Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

              most of us have a degree in computer science

              Nope.

              Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

                most of us have a degree in computer science

                Nope.

                Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib
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                Ok, lets not consider that

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                • R Roger Wright

                  Since I'm neither, I can give you an unbiased answer. A Developer does far more than just program. What your company gives you for a title means little, but if you have to analyze the problem, determine the requirements, allocate tasks among modules or between hardware and software, create the test plan, prepare the user documentation, meet with customers to discuss the project and the requirements, then you're a developer, whether you type code or not. If you receive a set of specs or requirements, have little influence over them, but are expected to deliver a piece of software that meets them, you're a programmer. As one who has done all of these in the past, and hired many others to do the same since, I think quite a lot of people in this profession are both developers and programmers, with different roles becoming dominant depending on the tasks assigned.

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib
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                  Good observation, also we can consider developers are some what generalists without specializations (not always true, there is always exception), they are expert at finding ways around problems and plugging components together to fulfill a set of requirements programmers,they have a depth of skill in a wide area of expertise and have reasonably good knowledge in certain areas (specialization) What do u think?

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                  • S Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib

                    developer and programmer both are engineers :laugh:

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                    wizardzz
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                    :doh: that's one I will definitely have to disagree with.

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                    • S Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib

                      developer and programmer both are engineers :laugh:

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                      Steve Maier
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                      When I worked at Texas Instruments they said that you could not have the title of Software Engineer because in Texas state law says that engineers have to pass state exams and have to be licenses. We were all called Analysts.

                      Steve Maier

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                      • L Lost User

                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        Raw animal magnetism

                        I avoid going near railway tracks.

                        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                        Roger Wright
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                        Any problems with steel bedframes? Metal office supply cabinets? ;)

                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                        • W wizardzz

                          what about engineer?

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                          DABBee
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                          There's a tool for that - a baseball bat.

                          Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them along with this slice of humble pie, that comes direct from the oven of shame, set at gas mark 'egg on your face'.

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                          • S Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib

                            Good observation, also we can consider developers are some what generalists without specializations (not always true, there is always exception), they are expert at finding ways around problems and plugging components together to fulfill a set of requirements programmers,they have a depth of skill in a wide area of expertise and have reasonably good knowledge in certain areas (specialization) What do u think?

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                            Roger Wright
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                            I'm inclined to think that programmers can be trained into their profession, but developers have to grow into the role. The ability to integrate solutions and ideas from many sources, including many other fields, is invaluable and can't be learned in school.

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            • L Lost User

                              Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

                              most of us have a degree in computer science

                              Nope.

                              Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                              Henry Minute
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                              As a fellow consumer of yoghurt, are you enjoying the current price war?

                              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                As a fellow consumer of yoghurt, are you enjoying the current price war?

                                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                Pete OHanlon
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                                I make my own yoghurt (and no, that's not a euphemism).

                                I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

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                                • P Pete OHanlon

                                  I make my own yoghurt (and no, that's not a euphemism).

                                  I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                                  Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                  Henry Minute
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                                  I make my own cheese. And that is! :-D

                                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                  • R Roger Wright

                                    Any problems with steel bedframes? Metal office supply cabinets? ;)

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    Jim Crafton
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                                    that's getting awful personal Roger, careful or the claws might come out.

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                                      I make my own cheese. And that is! :-D

                                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      Seriously, you should try making your own yoghurt. It's great because you can try out your own variations.

                                      I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

                                        most of us have a degree in computer science

                                        Nope.

                                        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                        DABBee
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                                        I'd be surprised if more than 10 % of us did. Anyhoo, a programmer is the dude who slugs in the machine code to say a shift register, or a plastics injection moulder line - a developer designs applications and may also do the programming for same. I do both, but work in house for a reasonably well sized corporation. (So if I fuck up it is pretty obvious who's fault it is) ((so I don't))

                                        Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them along with this slice of humble pie, that comes direct from the oven of shame, set at gas mark 'egg on your face'.

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                                        • P Pete OHanlon

                                          Seriously, you should try making your own yoghurt. It's great because you can try out your own variations.

                                          I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                                          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                          Henry Minute
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                                          I used to back when I was first married (true). Unfortunately, at the divorce, the custardy battle that ensued was no trifle, I couldn't bear to see the look of Delight on the face of my once Angel.

                                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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