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What's diff among developer and programmer?

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    Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib
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    We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?

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      We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?

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      Gary Wheeler
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      About $20/hour.

      Software Zen: delete this;

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        About $20/hour.

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib
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        So I guess you mean expertise :)

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          We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

          most of us have a degree in computer science

          I suspect you'll find most here don't. I don't.

          Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

          whats makes the difference

          Sex appeal. Raw animal magnetism. Amazing prowess in the undercracker department.

          I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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            We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?

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            wizardzz
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            what about engineer?

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              Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

              most of us have a degree in computer science

              I suspect you'll find most here don't. I don't.

              Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

              whats makes the difference

              Sex appeal. Raw animal magnetism. Amazing prowess in the undercracker department.

              I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

              Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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              Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib
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              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              Sex appeal

              :) :) :) nice observation. also like to add Tech giants (like Microsoft/FB/Google) of the world are after programmers and developers who end up there become product managers.

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                So I guess you mean expertise :)

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                Pete OHanlon
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                Not necessarily. Chutzpah, gall and sheer bloody minded cheek could count for a lot too.

                I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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                  what about engineer?

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                  Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib
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                  developer and programmer both are engineers :laugh:

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                    We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?

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                    Roger Wright
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                    Since I'm neither, I can give you an unbiased answer. A Developer does far more than just program. What your company gives you for a title means little, but if you have to analyze the problem, determine the requirements, allocate tasks among modules or between hardware and software, create the test plan, prepare the user documentation, meet with customers to discuss the project and the requirements, then you're a developer, whether you type code or not. If you receive a set of specs or requirements, have little influence over them, but are expected to deliver a piece of software that meets them, you're a programmer. As one who has done all of these in the past, and hired many others to do the same since, I think quite a lot of people in this profession are both developers and programmers, with different roles becoming dominant depending on the tasks assigned.

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                      We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?

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                      Henry Minute
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                      Developers are often programmers. Programmers are mostly not developers.

                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                        Developers are often programmers. Programmers are mostly not developers.

                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                        Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib
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                        Henry Minute wrote:

                        Developers are often programmers. Programmers are mostly not developers.

                        Bravo :-D

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                          Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

                          most of us have a degree in computer science

                          I suspect you'll find most here don't. I don't.

                          Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

                          whats makes the difference

                          Sex appeal. Raw animal magnetism. Amazing prowess in the undercracker department.

                          I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                          AspDotNetDev
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                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                          I suspect you'll find most here don't.

                          I do. Would be an interesting CP poll.

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                            Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

                            most of us have a degree in computer science

                            I suspect you'll find most here don't. I don't.

                            Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

                            whats makes the difference

                            Sex appeal. Raw animal magnetism. Amazing prowess in the undercracker department.

                            I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

                            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                            Lost User
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                            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                            Raw animal magnetism

                            I avoid going near railway tracks.

                            Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                              We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?

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                              Lost User
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                              Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

                              most of us have a degree in computer science

                              Nope.

                              Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                Since I'm neither, I can give you an unbiased answer. A Developer does far more than just program. What your company gives you for a title means little, but if you have to analyze the problem, determine the requirements, allocate tasks among modules or between hardware and software, create the test plan, prepare the user documentation, meet with customers to discuss the project and the requirements, then you're a developer, whether you type code or not. If you receive a set of specs or requirements, have little influence over them, but are expected to deliver a piece of software that meets them, you're a programmer. As one who has done all of these in the past, and hired many others to do the same since, I think quite a lot of people in this profession are both developers and programmers, with different roles becoming dominant depending on the tasks assigned.

                                Will Rogers never met me.

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                                Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib
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                                Good observation, also we can consider developers are some what generalists without specializations (not always true, there is always exception), they are expert at finding ways around problems and plugging components together to fulfill a set of requirements programmers,they have a depth of skill in a wide area of expertise and have reasonably good knowledge in certain areas (specialization) What do u think?

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                                  Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:

                                  most of us have a degree in computer science

                                  Nope.

                                  Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                  Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib
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                                  Ok, lets not consider that

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                                  • S Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib

                                    developer and programmer both are engineers :laugh:

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                                    wizardzz
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                                    :doh: that's one I will definitely have to disagree with.

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                                    • S Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury Galib

                                      developer and programmer both are engineers :laugh:

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                                      Steve Maier
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                                      When I worked at Texas Instruments they said that you could not have the title of Software Engineer because in Texas state law says that engineers have to pass state exams and have to be licenses. We were all called Analysts.

                                      Steve Maier

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                                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                        Raw animal magnetism

                                        I avoid going near railway tracks.

                                        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                        Roger Wright
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                                        Any problems with steel bedframes? Metal office supply cabinets? ;)

                                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                                          what about engineer?

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                                          DABBee
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                                          There's a tool for that - a baseball bat.

                                          Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them along with this slice of humble pie, that comes direct from the oven of shame, set at gas mark 'egg on your face'.

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