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  • A AspDotNetDev

    I always pronounce it giff (you don't pronounce "gift" as "jift" do you?) and am a little annoyed when other pronounce it jiff, as if it's peanut butter! And I used to call it S-Q-L, because I learned it from reading books. Once I started working on it with others, I learned quickly that they tend to pronounce it sequel. Since it uses two syllables rather than three, that's ok by me.

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    Indivara
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    That argument doesn't work, there is giant, Gillian (JIH-lee-uhn) etc :)

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    • I Indivara

      Why? Is your name read Homez? (serious question)

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      Fernando A Gomez F
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      No, Gomez actually sounds as it would in English. However, when a G is followed by an E, or an I, it sounds as Spanish "j", whose closest English sound would be "h" (try to think in it as a harder "h"). To make it sound soft (as in game, or Gomez), you put a U between the G and the E,I (as in guitar). For the English "j" sound we either use two "l"'s (as in "llave") or a "y" (as in "yoyo").

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        Indivara wrote:

        Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)

        I think I sometimes use 'a'. Example: I took a look at a SQL script the other day that was pretty fascinating. But usually I use neither 'a' or 'an'. Example: When working with SQL, I sometimes lose my cool.

        Regards, Nish


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        Indivara
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        That's a good idea, avoid the article and let the reader deal with it :-D

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          GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

          1. giff
          2. jiff
          3. never thought of it
          4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
          5. who gives a spit

          Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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          modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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          I say either SQL or squeal.

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          • F Fernando A Gomez F

            No, Gomez actually sounds as it would in English. However, when a G is followed by an E, or an I, it sounds as Spanish "j", whose closest English sound would be "h" (try to think in it as a harder "h"). To make it sound soft (as in game, or Gomez), you put a U between the G and the E,I (as in guitar). For the English "j" sound we either use two "l"'s (as in "llave") or a "y" (as in "yoyo").

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            Indivara
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            Interesting, didn't know that G had another pronunciation in Spanish.

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            • I Indivara

              GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

              1. giff
              2. jiff
              3. never thought of it
              4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
              5. who gives a spit

              Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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              modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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              Anthony Mushrow
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              GIF: Giraffe SQL: Squirrel Of course I have to be a little careful about where I use my regular terms, as some might thing I'm a little strange. Like if they caught me saying that I'd put some giraffes in my squirrel database.

              My current favourite phrase: I've seen better!

              -SK Genius

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              • I Indivara

                GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                1. giff
                2. jiff
                3. never thought of it
                4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                5. who gives a spit

                Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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                modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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                1 and 5 (6?) SQL (officially pronounced /ˌɛskjuːˈɛl/ like "S-Q-L" (but that's Wikipedia ::shrug:: ) "an SQL" (or "a squirrel") How about XML? I like to pronounce it "shimmel". :-D

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                • I Indivara

                  GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                  1. giff
                  2. jiff
                  3. never thought of it
                  4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                  5. who gives a spit

                  Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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                  modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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                  RaviBee
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                  I've always said "jiff" and "sequel". /ravi

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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    Indivara wrote:

                    Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server

                    I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.

                    Regards, Nish


                    My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    I used to say S-Q-L but I've heard several SQL server team members and SQL server MVPs/community activists say it as "sequel" and for some years now, I do the same.

                    That's cause they're all twats. It's S Q L, three letters, no more, no less.

                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                    • A AspDotNetDev

                      Haha, awesome. Guess I prefer the incorrect pronunciation then (P-N-G).

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                      You might want to check with the inventor of the png format. :)

                      The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.

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                      • I Indivara

                        GIF - is it pronounced giff (with hard g) or jiff?

                        1. giff
                        2. jiff
                        3. never thought of it
                        4. whatever the other party says / is comfortable with
                        5. who gives a spit

                        Same with an S-Q-L server or a Sequel server <edit> Forgot to ask - when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced) Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point... </edit> (I already saw the discussion on the other site*, don't care much for their opinion)

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                        modified on Friday, December 3, 2010 7:49 PM

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                        I pronounce jif as jif, and gif as gif. That way, people will know whether I'm talking about gif files or jif files.

                        Indivara wrote:

                        when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point...

                        What a ridiculous question. "What are the pronunciation rules for the English language?" It depends on whether you pronounce it as an initialism or as a acronym.

                        A little common sense goes a lot further than a lot of cliquey nonsense.

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                        • I Indivara

                          Interesting, didn't know that G had another pronunciation in Spanish.

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                          Indivara wrote:

                          Interesting, didn't know that G had another pronunciation in Spanish.

                          The same rule applies in Italian, where the C has the same e/i rule: "Sci" is pronounced "she", and "schi" is pronounced "ski".

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                          • M Mark_Wallace

                            I pronounce jif as jif, and gif as gif. That way, people will know whether I'm talking about gif files or jif files.

                            Indivara wrote:

                            when you write it as SQL, do you use a SQL ... or an SQL ...? (thinking of how it is pronounced)Looks like opinions are rather divided at this point...

                            What a ridiculous question. "What are the pronunciation rules for the English language?" It depends on whether you pronounce it as an initialism or as a acronym.

                            A little common sense goes a lot further than a lot of cliquey nonsense.

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                            If Gif can be pronounced as JIF then i can call my colig JAY as GAY? what say?

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                            • S Syed Wayez Ahmed

                              If Gif can be pronounced as JIF then i can call my colig JAY as GAY? what say?

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                              Syed Wayez Ahmed wrote:

                              If Gif can be pronounced as JIF then i can call my colig JAY as GAY? what say?

                              I'd say that if you mispronounce either, you should expect a smack in the mouth. Going by the voting, it appears that people don't like being told that they're behaving like cliquey idiots. Well, the day I need the comradeship of people who are only half a step up from marketing cretins is the day I'll hang up my mouse.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              • I Indivara

                                That argument doesn't work, there is giant, Gillian (JIH-lee-uhn) etc :)

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                                The only word that starts with gif is "gift". It is the best word to set a precedent for how to pronounce "GIF". :-D

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                                  Syed Wayez Ahmed wrote:

                                  If Gif can be pronounced as JIF then i can call my colig JAY as GAY? what say?

                                  I'd say that if you mispronounce either, you should expect a smack in the mouth. Going by the voting, it appears that people don't like being told that they're behaving like cliquey idiots. Well, the day I need the comradeship of people who are only half a step up from marketing cretins is the day I'll hang up my mouse.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  Indivara
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                                  Mark Wallace wrote:

                                  Going by the voting

                                  Not me, gave you a compensating 5, though I have no idea what you are talking about. jif files? ;P

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                                  • A Anthony Mushrow

                                    GIF: Giraffe SQL: Squirrel Of course I have to be a little careful about where I use my regular terms, as some might thing I'm a little strange. Like if they caught me saying that I'd put some giraffes in my squirrel database.

                                    My current favourite phrase: I've seen better!

                                    -SK Genius

                                    Source Indexing and Symbol Servers[^]

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                                    Indivara
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                                    That's nice, then PostgreSQL will be post gray squirrel, mysql will be my squirrel. You'll have to be even more careful with this, or it will get you certified even faster Client: So what should I use to store our client data? SK Genius: Oh, you can use my squirrel Client: :omg: :wtf:

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                                    • A AspDotNetDev

                                      The only word that starts with gif is "gift". It is the best word to set a precedent for how to pronounce "GIF". :-D

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                                      Touche! :) didn't know that

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                                      • A Anthony Mushrow

                                        GIF: Giraffe SQL: Squirrel Of course I have to be a little careful about where I use my regular terms, as some might thing I'm a little strange. Like if they caught me saying that I'd put some giraffes in my squirrel database.

                                        My current favourite phrase: I've seen better!

                                        -SK Genius

                                        Source Indexing and Symbol Servers[^]

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                                        SK Genius wrote:

                                        as some might thing I'm a little strange

                                        Only if they know you. ;)

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                                        • A Abhinav S

                                          You might want to check with the inventor of the png format. :)

                                          The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it. My latest tip/trick Visit the Hindi forum here.

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                                          AspDotNetDev
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                                          Are you saying I should ping him with my PNG pronunciation predicament?

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