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Virus writers are ppl who work with AntiVirus companies ?

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  • C Christian Graus

    You forgot crop circles !!! Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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    Paul Watson
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    Christian Graus wrote: You forgot crop circles !!! You mean Alien Navigation Beacons! Damnit Jim, use the correct terminology here, this isn't the 50s anymore, we have email from them even spelling out the correct Alien Terminology. Don't you know that beings who have travelled thousands of light years through vast stretches of space without an ear of corn in site need to flatten corn on Earth to stop them flying into mountains! :rolleyes: Signs taught me at least one thing... crop circles are just ridiculous!

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    Colin Davies wrote: ...can you imagine a John Simmons stalker !

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    • C Christian Graus

      You forgot crop circles !!! Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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      Alvaro Mendez
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      Er... what about crop circles? How do those happen? Are they all secretly created by extremely bored and lonely farmers? Regards, Alvaro


      Well done is better than well said. -- Benjamin Franklin (I actually prefer medium-well.)

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      • C Christian Graus

        You forgot crop circles !!! Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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        Ranjeet Chakraborty
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        What abt that french author's missile theory abt the third plane hitting the pentagon ? Mine wasn't so bad. ;P Carved upon my stone, My body lies but still I roam...

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        • R Ranjeet Chakraborty

          Paul Watson wrote: go watch Conspiracy Theory That wasn't a bad movie. ;P Paul Watson wrote: stop smoking whatever you are smoking :laugh: Carved upon my stone, My body lies but still I roam...

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          Paul Watson
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          Ranjeet Chakraborty wrote: That wasn't a bad movie. Oh I totally agree, twas a cool movie, enjoyed it immensely. Just was the only conspiracy movie I could come up with at the time. I am just denying my love for Mel Gibson, I have to or all of you really will think I am female.

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          • R Ranjeet Chakraborty

            What abt that french author's missile theory abt the third plane hitting the pentagon ? Mine wasn't so bad. ;P Carved upon my stone, My body lies but still I roam...

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            Alvaro Mendez
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            Yep, I'm still wondering about that one too. Funny how the press never made a fuss about it[^]. Regards, Alvaro


            Well done is better than well said. -- Benjamin Franklin (I actually prefer medium-well.)

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              Ranjeet Chakraborty wrote: That wasn't a bad movie. Oh I totally agree, twas a cool movie, enjoyed it immensely. Just was the only conspiracy movie I could come up with at the time. I am just denying my love for Mel Gibson, I have to or all of you really will think I am female.

              Paul Watson
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              Colin Davies wrote: ...can you imagine a John Simmons stalker !

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              Ranjeet Chakraborty
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              Paul Watson wrote: my love for Mel Gibson :omg::wtf: Carved upon my stone, My body lies but still I roam...

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              • A Alvaro Mendez

                Er... what about crop circles? How do those happen? Are they all secretly created by extremely bored and lonely farmers? Regards, Alvaro


                Well done is better than well said. -- Benjamin Franklin (I actually prefer medium-well.)

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                Paul Watson
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                Alvaro Mendez wrote: Er... what about crop circles? How do those happen? Are they all secretly created by extremely bored and lonely farmers? Gawds I can't believe you guys have not figured it out yet. Crop Circles, and please from now on they are Alien Navigational Beacons so please respect my masters wishes for the use of correct terminology, are created by genetically modified corn. Yes, GM foods. Genes extracted from VB loving wombats are implanted into corn and distributed around the world. Wombats are a known ally of the Aliens and have side kick *sic* links with the Alien Navigational Systems, or ANS. When ANS broadcasts certain signals the GM corn responds and bends to the encoded signals. The signals are an advanced form of XML run through Quantum Photonic Entanglement Encrypters, or QPEE (thought my masters jokingly refer to it as CP30, because George Lucas is one of them and they always like giving their mates a ribbing.) So now you know the truth. No wonder African countries do not want GM food.

                Paul Watson
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                  Alvaro Mendez wrote: Er... what about crop circles? How do those happen? Are they all secretly created by extremely bored and lonely farmers? Gawds I can't believe you guys have not figured it out yet. Crop Circles, and please from now on they are Alien Navigational Beacons so please respect my masters wishes for the use of correct terminology, are created by genetically modified corn. Yes, GM foods. Genes extracted from VB loving wombats are implanted into corn and distributed around the world. Wombats are a known ally of the Aliens and have side kick *sic* links with the Alien Navigational Systems, or ANS. When ANS broadcasts certain signals the GM corn responds and bends to the encoded signals. The signals are an advanced form of XML run through Quantum Photonic Entanglement Encrypters, or QPEE (thought my masters jokingly refer to it as CP30, because George Lucas is one of them and they always like giving their mates a ribbing.) So now you know the truth. No wonder African countries do not want GM food.

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Colin Davies wrote: ...can you imagine a John Simmons stalker !

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                  Ranjeet Chakraborty
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                  Paul Watson wrote: are created by genetically modified corn. Yes, GM foods. :-D:laugh: Paul Watson wrote: known ally of the Aliens and have side kick *sic* links with the Alien Navigational Systems, or ANS. When ANS broadcasts certain signals the GM corn responds and bends to the encoded signals. The signals are an advanced form of XML run through Quantum Photonic Entanglement Encrypters, or QPEE (thought my masters jokingly refer to it as :omg::wtf: Wow, paul you a genius, whatch you doing programming, you should come down here in Hollywood and make some movie.;P Carved upon my stone, My body lies but still I roam...

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                  • A Alvaro Mendez

                    Er... what about crop circles? How do those happen? Are they all secretly created by extremely bored and lonely farmers? Regards, Alvaro


                    Well done is better than well said. -- Benjamin Franklin (I actually prefer medium-well.)

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                    http://www.circlemakers.org/[^] ;) Shog9 ------

                    Rather hammer futiley at the locked door than just sit and ignore it. Obviously finding a way to get through the locked door would be even better though. - Paul Watson, My Ignorance

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                    • R Ranjeet Chakraborty

                      Even though one of my good friends who works with a reputed AntiVirus cos say that they are just the firemen, I think its these companies themselves that write them in the first place. Looking at the complex way these viruses exploit vulnerabilities in applications and the OS and more importantly the HUGE business it generates for these cos, I think not every one is written by some crazy moron who has loads of time to kill. What do other ppl think ? Carved upon my stone, My body lies but still I roam...

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                      Ranjeet Chakraborty wrote: I think its these companies themselves that write them in the first place. That statement is laughable. It would be both unethical and illegal for an AV company to write viruses. If a company ever did that, their reputation would be destroyed beyond repair. At Symantec, anyone caught doing that would be bounced out on their ass before they knew what hit them. Ranjeet Chakraborty wrote: I think not every one is written by some crazy moron who has loads of time to kill. Um, that is exactly the kind of person that writes complex viruses and exploits. But hey, don't let a former NAV programmer stop you from making wide sweeping claims about the whole industry. --Mike-- "alyson hannigan is so cute it's crazy" -- Googlism Just released - 1ClickPicGrabber - Grab & organize pictures from your favorite web pages, with 1 click! My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm

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                        Ranjeet Chakraborty wrote: I think its these companies themselves that write them in the first place. That statement is laughable. It would be both unethical and illegal for an AV company to write viruses. If a company ever did that, their reputation would be destroyed beyond repair. At Symantec, anyone caught doing that would be bounced out on their ass before they knew what hit them. Ranjeet Chakraborty wrote: I think not every one is written by some crazy moron who has loads of time to kill. Um, that is exactly the kind of person that writes complex viruses and exploits. But hey, don't let a former NAV programmer stop you from making wide sweeping claims about the whole industry. --Mike-- "alyson hannigan is so cute it's crazy" -- Googlism Just released - 1ClickPicGrabber - Grab & organize pictures from your favorite web pages, with 1 click! My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm

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                        Ranjeet Chakraborty
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                        Michael Dunn wrote: It would be both unethical and illegal for an AV company to write viruses. yeah right, thats exactly what my friend at Sophos tells me, but then hey, I was just speculating. Carved upon my stone, My body lies but still I roam...

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                        • R Ranjeet Chakraborty

                          Paul Watson wrote: go watch Conspiracy Theory That wasn't a bad movie. ;P Paul Watson wrote: stop smoking whatever you are smoking :laugh: Carved upon my stone, My body lies but still I roam...

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                          Ranjeet Chakraborty wrote: That wasn't a bad movie. That was a GREAT movie. I now know to watch for the black copter in "whisper mode"! About the AV software companies... well... it wouldn't supprize me to see some money being passed under the table. If you have a problem with my spelling, just remember that's not my fault. I [as well as everyone else who learned to spell after 1976] blame it on Robert A. Kolpek for U.S. Patent 4,136,395.

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                          • D Daniel Turini

                            Ranjeet Chakraborty wrote: Police dont charge for their services, its their job, some of these antivirus products cost a fortune. I am not saying its useless to buy an AV product, just speculating the possibility of their hands being dirty. Yes, they charge. No one is working for free. And there's a BIG bunch of money involved. Following your theories, I think that police may be involved in most crimes. And private security services do, too. And they charge for their services. And who buys antivirus stuff anyway? Really, I program since I was 11, I used several computers and NONE until today have got infected with a single virus. There are three kind of people who gets viruses: 1. People who use pirated software 2. People who run software from a undetermined source. 3. People who think older software is better than newer software. Like "Hey, Micro~1 sucks. So I use an old Windows NT 4.0, without any service packs nor hotfixes, because it's more secure and service packs are buggy." No antivirus will ever substitute good security habits. And, you want to ruin a company? Just break your customer's trust. People who says that kind of thing normally does not have a clue of how a virus works and how it is disseminated. You don't need to create a virus for this people, just send FORMAT.COM by e-mail to them and they'll destroy their own machine. My latest article: SQL Server DO's and DONT's[^]

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                              Yep, I'm still wondering about that one too. Funny how the press never made a fuss about it[^]. Regards, Alvaro


                              Well done is better than well said. -- Benjamin Franklin (I actually prefer medium-well.)

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                              Alvaro Mendez wrote: Yep, I'm still wondering about that one too. Funny how the press never made a fuss about it[^]. Ok very cute and all, a good arguer could debate whether you are really alive or not so just showing photos of there being no Boeing is hardly convincing. What I want to see is what he thinks really happened and the proof for it.

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