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Why are we sending soldiers to defend these people?

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  • L Lost User

    Actually I am reading it in conjunciton with the other report I mentioned. Said 'boys' are actually teenager, and while technically anyone under the age of 18 is a boy, a child they are not, thus THIS article is intentionally infalmatory in that it misrepresents the facts. I said the other report was better, have a look for it.

    "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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    "The practice of 'bache bazi' or boy play, is known throughout Afghanistan, but is particularly renowned in the city of Kandahar next to Helmand, where prepubescent boys are widely admired." I think the word PREPUBESCENT is failing to hit your retinas. Or do you think that prepubescent boys are a legitimate sexual partner?

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      "The practice of 'bache bazi' or boy play, is known throughout Afghanistan, but is particularly renowned in the city of Kandahar next to Helmand, where prepubescent boys are widely admired." I think the word PREPUBESCENT is failing to hit your retinas. Or do you think that prepubescent boys are a legitimate sexual partner?

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      Dave, I dont know what sort of mood you are in, but you are being offensive. Snap out of it.

      "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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        Dave, I dont know what sort of mood you are in, but you are being offensive. Snap out of it.

        "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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        Dalek Dave
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        You're right. I am just tired.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          Afghan Culture accepts the sodomy of young boys by older men as culturally acceptable.[^] These mediaeval peasants need to have the borders closed until they evolve into human beings.

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          We invaded and occupied their country. This is a war of aggression and has nothing to do with defense.

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          • D Dalek Dave

            Afghan Culture accepts the sodomy of young boys by older men as culturally acceptable.[^] These mediaeval peasants need to have the borders closed until they evolve into human beings.

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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            It was the arrogance of deciding everyone wanted to be American that is the basic problem. And that was decided by half a dozen men.

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              It was the arrogance of deciding everyone wanted to be American that is the basic problem. And that was decided by half a dozen men.

              Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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              Trollslayer wrote:

              And that was decided by half a dozen men.

              So your saying we should have women in charge? :)

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                Trollslayer wrote:

                And that was decided by half a dozen men.

                So your saying we should have women in charge? :)

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                You may think so but I couldn't possibly comment. ;)

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                • C Corporal Agarn

                  Trollslayer wrote:

                  And that was decided by half a dozen men.

                  So your saying we should have women in charge? :)

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                  Nope: Hamsters. Hamsters should definitely run the world. Absolutely. I'll help in any way I can. And this has nothing to do with the 3619 reputation points I lost in the reshuffle last weekend, and would really like back in the reshuffle this weekend, if that's all right with the Hamsters?

                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                    Trollslayer wrote:

                    And that was decided by half a dozen men.

                    So your saying we should have women in charge? :)

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                    Chris Meech
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                    I'm all for that. They certainly couldn't do any worse. :)

                    Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                      Nope: Hamsters. Hamsters should definitely run the world. Absolutely. I'll help in any way I can. And this has nothing to do with the 3619 reputation points I lost in the reshuffle last weekend, and would really like back in the reshuffle this weekend, if that's all right with the Hamsters?

                      Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                      Shhhh, The Hamsters already run the world but are keeping it a secret. :)

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                      • O Oakman

                        It's Bulgaria all over again

                        “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                        I’ve always thought for you as for a little retarded old man with a huge self-confidence and no respect to the facts, but now I’m changing my mind: you’re completely insane!

                        There is only one Ashley Judd and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                        • O Oakman

                          Where do you think "bugger" comes from? Some version of Bulgarian (Bougre, buggero, bujarrón) exists in every European language and they all mean sodomite. You Brits tried to free them from the Russians and Ottomans in the Crimean War and discovered their nasty little habits that way.

                          “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                          :wtf:

                          There is only one Ashley Judd and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                            I’ve always thought for you as for a little retarded old man with a huge self-confidence and no respect to the facts, but now I’m changing my mind: you’re completely insane!

                            There is only one Ashley Judd and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                            Every word that I wrote is the absolute truth. No matter how loudly you yell, no matter upset you get, the historical facts remain. Check any dictionary you like, the etymology of the term "bugger" is "Bulgarian." And all of Western Europe used to assume that most folks in Bulgaria were queer as a three dollar bill, so much so that some corruption of Bulgarian means sodomite in most of Europe.

                            Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                            I’ve always thought for you as for a little retarded old man with a huge self-confidence and no respect to the facts

                            And I've always thought of you as someone who likes to attack people personally whenever he disagrees with them. :)

                            “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                            • L Lost User

                              It was the arrogance of deciding everyone wanted to be American that is the basic problem. And that was decided by half a dozen men.

                              Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                              Trollslayer wrote:

                              And that was decided by half a dozen men.

                              I understand that George Bush was also responsible for the Iceland Volcano explosion.

                              “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                              • O Oakman

                                Trollslayer wrote:

                                And that was decided by half a dozen men.

                                I understand that George Bush was also responsible for the Iceland Volcano explosion.

                                “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                                No, but he is responsible for two unnecessary wars, the deaths of tens of thousands, a world-wide torture regime, and numerous violations of US law.

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                                  No, but he is responsible for two unnecessary wars, the deaths of tens of thousands, a world-wide torture regime, and numerous violations of US law.

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                                  Majerus wrote:

                                  No, but he is responsible for two unnecessary wars, the deaths of tens of thousands, a world-wide torture regime, and numerous violations of US law.

                                  And also doing more to eradicate AIDS from the African Continent than the rest of the world put together. Look I hold no great brief for George Bush. Some folks back in the late great Soapbox called me a traitor because I listed my objection to his presidency. But I am amused by those who claim that America is responsible for every ill in the world. Do you really, for one second, actually maintain that America is the only country in the world to use torture? Or even the one that uses it the most? My view: the U.S. is neither a great saint nor the great Satan. We have been a force for good when we could and done things that caused great evils when we shouldn't. I certainly agree that we shouldn't have gone into Iraq; it was wrong for so many reasons that the elimination of Saddam's despotism doesn't counterbalance them in the slightest. We wasted a great many American and British lives and billions of dollars on a nation that was barbaric, is barbaric and will be barbaric. Bush's dream of turning both Iraq and Afghanistan into places fit for human habitation was misguided, stupid, and foolish. We should have left them on their own to kill each other in whatever ways they saw fit.

                                  “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                                  • O Oakman

                                    Majerus wrote:

                                    No, but he is responsible for two unnecessary wars, the deaths of tens of thousands, a world-wide torture regime, and numerous violations of US law.

                                    And also doing more to eradicate AIDS from the African Continent than the rest of the world put together. Look I hold no great brief for George Bush. Some folks back in the late great Soapbox called me a traitor because I listed my objection to his presidency. But I am amused by those who claim that America is responsible for every ill in the world. Do you really, for one second, actually maintain that America is the only country in the world to use torture? Or even the one that uses it the most? My view: the U.S. is neither a great saint nor the great Satan. We have been a force for good when we could and done things that caused great evils when we shouldn't. I certainly agree that we shouldn't have gone into Iraq; it was wrong for so many reasons that the elimination of Saddam's despotism doesn't counterbalance them in the slightest. We wasted a great many American and British lives and billions of dollars on a nation that was barbaric, is barbaric and will be barbaric. Bush's dream of turning both Iraq and Afghanistan into places fit for human habitation was misguided, stupid, and foolish. We should have left them on their own to kill each other in whatever ways they saw fit.

                                    “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    And also doing more to eradicate AIDS from the African Continent than the rest of the world put together.

                                    that is really great - no sarcasm - but that does nothing to mitigate anything that I have just said.

                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    But I am amused by those who claim that America is responsible for every ill in the world.

                                    I've never run into those people. I have seen it used as a strawman countless times.

                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    Do you really, for one second, actually maintain that America is the only country in the world to use torture? Or even the one that uses it the most?

                                    No. Just because others do it does not excuse us. Torture is still wrong regardless of who does it, or their motives.

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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      And also doing more to eradicate AIDS from the African Continent than the rest of the world put together.

                                      that is really great - no sarcasm - but that does nothing to mitigate anything that I have just said.

                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      But I am amused by those who claim that America is responsible for every ill in the world.

                                      I've never run into those people. I have seen it used as a strawman countless times.

                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      Do you really, for one second, actually maintain that America is the only country in the world to use torture? Or even the one that uses it the most?

                                      No. Just because others do it does not excuse us. Torture is still wrong regardless of who does it, or their motives.

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                                      Majerus wrote:

                                      that is really great - no sarcasm - but that does nothing to mitigate anything that I have just said.

                                      Majerus wrote:

                                      I've never run into those people

                                      Majerus wrote:

                                      Torture is still wrong regardless of who does it, or their motives.

                                      I don't know how else to deal with a world view that seems as divorced from reality as yours. Life, I am afraid, is not a moral jungle gym and there is no gold medal for being nice. Nor are your personal contacts a sufficient sampling of the universe to be offered up as something other than anecdotal evidence. As to judging a man only by his failings, I sincerely hope that never happens to you.

                                      “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                                      • O Oakman

                                        Majerus wrote:

                                        that is really great - no sarcasm - but that does nothing to mitigate anything that I have just said.

                                        Majerus wrote:

                                        I've never run into those people

                                        Majerus wrote:

                                        Torture is still wrong regardless of who does it, or their motives.

                                        I don't know how else to deal with a world view that seems as divorced from reality as yours. Life, I am afraid, is not a moral jungle gym and there is no gold medal for being nice. Nor are your personal contacts a sufficient sampling of the universe to be offered up as something other than anecdotal evidence. As to judging a man only by his failings, I sincerely hope that never happens to you.

                                        “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        And I've always thought of you as someone who likes to attack people personally whenever he disagrees with them.

                                        [^] :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Thanks for that. Don't think I'll bother with reading your response. (Will he or won't he - eh, who cares?)

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                                        • D Dalek Dave

                                          What happened in Bulgaria?

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                                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                                          What happened in Bulgaria?

                                          What happens in Bulgaria, stays in Bulgaria!

                                          [Genetic Algorithm Library] [Wowd]

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