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  • T Tim Carmichael

    I use OO as home and we are considering using it at work where we can. Never having heard of LibreOffice before today, what is the difference between the two? Why would someone choose one over the other? We will be getting a new laptop at home this week and an office suite WILL be installed shortly thereafter, so... OpenOffice or LibreOffice, and why? Thanks in advance, Tim

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    Ian Shlasko
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    They're pretty much the same thing, at this point... It was all originally StarOffice (Maybe there was more before that, but that's as far back as my historical knowledge goes)... Sun Microsystems bought StarOffice, and somehow it split into StarOffice and OpenOffice.org, with the latter being open source. Now, Sun had historically been friendly toward FOSS... They contributed to the community and didn't try to destroy anything, as far as I'm aware. Oracle, on the other hand... Oracle semi-recently bought up Sun, as you're probably aware, and they basically kicked the open source to the curb (MySQL is a bit uncertain at this point, though Oracle hasn't made their move yet)... They didn't come right out and fire everyone, but I believe the OO.o guys were "encouraged" to leave, and most (all?) of them did. So, OO.o, being an open-source project, was simply forked to become LibreOffice. Oracle owns the trademark, so they had to change the name and rebrand it... I'm guessing they also added features that weren't permitted in the Sun/Oracle days (I haven't researched it much), but for the most part, LibreOffice is just the next version of OO.o at this point. The difference is in the future... OO.o is very likely to stagnate and fade out, as Oracle really doesn't want it. LibreOffice is alive and kicking, so that's where you want to be right now. (Not 100% about some of the history, so I welcome any corrections)

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    • P Paul E Davies

      I use OO at home - What's the main differences with Libra?

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      Ian Shlasko
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      See the replies to Tim's post above :)

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      • D Dalek Dave

        Deyan Georgiev wrote:

        I have MS Office 2010 but I’m using only the World from it.

        Is the world enough?

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        Dima Popov
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        World 2010 was good, the new version was released recently.

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          See the replies to Tim's post above :)

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          Paul E Davies
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          Just seen it, thanks. Sounds like not a bad idea to move away from OO.

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          • D Dima Popov

            World 2010 was good, the new version was released recently.

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            Dalek Dave
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            I thought it was still in beta?

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            • D Dima Popov

              The Word is not enough.

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              Single Step Debugger
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              Dima Popov wrote:

              The Word is not enough.

              Only for version 007!

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              • I Ian Shlasko

                They're pretty much the same thing, at this point... It was all originally StarOffice (Maybe there was more before that, but that's as far back as my historical knowledge goes)... Sun Microsystems bought StarOffice, and somehow it split into StarOffice and OpenOffice.org, with the latter being open source. Now, Sun had historically been friendly toward FOSS... They contributed to the community and didn't try to destroy anything, as far as I'm aware. Oracle, on the other hand... Oracle semi-recently bought up Sun, as you're probably aware, and they basically kicked the open source to the curb (MySQL is a bit uncertain at this point, though Oracle hasn't made their move yet)... They didn't come right out and fire everyone, but I believe the OO.o guys were "encouraged" to leave, and most (all?) of them did. So, OO.o, being an open-source project, was simply forked to become LibreOffice. Oracle owns the trademark, so they had to change the name and rebrand it... I'm guessing they also added features that weren't permitted in the Sun/Oracle days (I haven't researched it much), but for the most part, LibreOffice is just the next version of OO.o at this point. The difference is in the future... OO.o is very likely to stagnate and fade out, as Oracle really doesn't want it. LibreOffice is alive and kicking, so that's where you want to be right now. (Not 100% about some of the history, so I welcome any corrections)

                Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                Never did understand why a big company would buy an open-source project to kill it. Once they do, it's guaranteed to branch and resume where it was last standing. So, basically, the big company wastes its money for nothing.

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                • P Phil Martin

                  They do. I can buy off the shelf both Word and Excel separately. Well, at least I could with Office 2007, I assume it's the same with 2010.

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                  Didn’t knew that, thanks for the info.

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    I thought it was still in beta?

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                    Dima Popov
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                    But it came as an auto-update.

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                      I have MS Office 2010 but I’m using only the World from it.

                      Is the world enough?

                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                      I’m not going to fix this one; it’s quite a funny typo.

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                      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                        Never did understand why a big company would buy an open-source project to kill it. Once they do, it's guaranteed to branch and resume where it was last standing. So, basically, the big company wastes its money for nothing.

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                        Nemanja Trifunovic
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                        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                        it's guaranteed to branch and resume where it was last standing.

                        Not really. Many producers of open-source software make their living by selling a more powerful commercial version of the product. To be able to do that, they need to own the code, even if they release (a part of it) under GPL.

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                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                          it's guaranteed to branch and resume where it was last standing.

                          Not really. Many producers of open-source software make their living by selling a more powerful commercial version of the product. To be able to do that, they need to own the code, even if they release (a part of it) under GPL.

                          utf8-cpp

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                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                          Note, I did say buy it to kill it.

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                          • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                            Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                            I have MS Office 2010 but I’m using only the World from it

                            Word, I guess :). Have you tried OneNote? The best Office application hands-down.

                            Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                            For the most of the home users

                            Sure, but MS Office is primarily aimed at corporate users where integration with Exchange and SharePoint may be important.

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                            Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                            Word, I guess

                            Yes but as I tolled Dave, I’m not going to fix it; it’s quite a funny :)

                            Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                            Have you tried OneNote? The best Office application hands-down.

                            Yes, I played with it and I like it, I guess I’m just too lazy to use it.

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                            • I Ian Shlasko

                              They're pretty much the same thing, at this point... It was all originally StarOffice (Maybe there was more before that, but that's as far back as my historical knowledge goes)... Sun Microsystems bought StarOffice, and somehow it split into StarOffice and OpenOffice.org, with the latter being open source. Now, Sun had historically been friendly toward FOSS... They contributed to the community and didn't try to destroy anything, as far as I'm aware. Oracle, on the other hand... Oracle semi-recently bought up Sun, as you're probably aware, and they basically kicked the open source to the curb (MySQL is a bit uncertain at this point, though Oracle hasn't made their move yet)... They didn't come right out and fire everyone, but I believe the OO.o guys were "encouraged" to leave, and most (all?) of them did. So, OO.o, being an open-source project, was simply forked to become LibreOffice. Oracle owns the trademark, so they had to change the name and rebrand it... I'm guessing they also added features that weren't permitted in the Sun/Oracle days (I haven't researched it much), but for the most part, LibreOffice is just the next version of OO.o at this point. The difference is in the future... OO.o is very likely to stagnate and fade out, as Oracle really doesn't want it. LibreOffice is alive and kicking, so that's where you want to be right now. (Not 100% about some of the history, so I welcome any corrections)

                              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                              Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                              Tim Carmichael
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                              Excellent reply, you got my 5. So, LibreOffice it is.... Tim

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                              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                Never did understand why a big company would buy an open-source project to kill it. Once they do, it's guaranteed to branch and resume where it was last standing. So, basically, the big company wastes its money for nothing.

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                                Oracle didn't directly buy OpenOffice.org... They bought Sun, which owned OpenOffice.org (Along with MySQL, Java, Solaris, SPARC, and quite a bit else). I think OO.o was just collateral damage in this instance. Kind of like buying a new computer, then uninstalling the pre-packaged Windows and installing Linux :)

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                                • T Tim Carmichael

                                  Excellent reply, you got my 5. So, LibreOffice it is.... Tim

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                                  :)

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                                  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                    Never did understand why a big company would buy an open-source project to kill it. Once they do, it's guaranteed to branch and resume where it was last standing. So, basically, the big company wastes its money for nothing.

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                                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                    money for nothing

                                    ...and your chicks for free. Oh sorry - we did that one a couple of weeks ago. :laugh:

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                                    • I Ian Shlasko

                                      Oracle didn't directly buy OpenOffice.org... They bought Sun, which owned OpenOffice.org (Along with MySQL, Java, Solaris, SPARC, and quite a bit else). I think OO.o was just collateral damage in this instance. Kind of like buying a new computer, then uninstalling the pre-packaged Windows and installing Linux :)

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                                      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                      Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                      Good analogy. :)

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                                      • H hairy_hats

                                        OpenOffice.org fork LibreOffice [^] has just been released. Hopefully they'll work out how to speed up program startup, but even without that it looks like a positive development in the arena of office suites.

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                                        Vark111
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                                        For those of you who want to know any specific differences between LO and OOo Ars Technica[^] has a short summary.

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                                        • I Ian Shlasko

                                          Oracle didn't directly buy OpenOffice.org... They bought Sun, which owned OpenOffice.org (Along with MySQL, Java, Solaris, SPARC, and quite a bit else). I think OO.o was just collateral damage in this instance. Kind of like buying a new computer, then uninstalling the pre-packaged Windows and installing Linux :)

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                                          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                          Oracle didn't directly buy OpenOffice.org... They bought Sun, which owned OpenOffice.org (Along with MySQL, Java, Solaris, SPARC, and quite a bit else). I think OO.o was just collateral damage in this instance.

                                          On a semi-related note: It should be interesting to see what Oracle does with VirtualBox in terms of it's open source future...

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