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  • J Johnny J

    I agree - MS finally got it right. I also agree with CG that there are a few irritating quirks (mostly to do with rights as he so aptly points out), but on the whole, I'm very impressed with Seven. (Shouldn't take much to impress anybody that has been exposed to Windows Virus - eh, Vista - on the other hand :laugh: )

    1f y0u c4n r34d 7h15 y0u r3411y n33d 70 g37 14!d Gotta run; I've got people to do and things to see... Don't tell my folks I'm a computer programmer - They think I'm a piano player in a cat house... Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!

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    Bassam Abdul Baki
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    Haven't had any major rights issues yet. We'll see.

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    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

      I'll have to pay attention to that. I thought the "My "  was no longer there. However, don't these belong to the currently logged in user? In which case, why shouldn't you see and be able to access them?

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      Christian Graus
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      There is no reason I can see, it's a sign they still have not fixed the new security code to work properly

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      • C Christian Graus

        The one thing I hate is that I have one login on this machine, but the file system still shows 'my pictures', 'my downloads', etc under my documents ( twice, one folder and one shortcut ) and tells me I have no permission to open them when I try. Again, there is one login on this machine, I am the admin, the sole user, etc. Why show me stuff that I can't look at, but let me see it if I navigate to it slightly differently ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        fjdiewornncalwe
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        I thought that only left me feeling a little irritated..

        I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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        • B Bassam Abdul Baki

          Haven't had any major rights issues yet. We'll see.

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          Lost User
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          In Windows Explorer try going to Libraries -> Documents in the left-hand window. Then in the right-hand window click on one of the "My ..." shortcuts and you will see what Christian is talking about.

          I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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          • C Christian Graus

            The one thing I hate is that I have one login on this machine, but the file system still shows 'my pictures', 'my downloads', etc under my documents ( twice, one folder and one shortcut ) and tells me I have no permission to open them when I try. Again, there is one login on this machine, I am the admin, the sole user, etc. Why show me stuff that I can't look at, but let me see it if I navigate to it slightly differently ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            leckey 0
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            How very odd and Microsoft-like.

            Soon...very soon...http://CraptasticNation.blogspot.com/[^]

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            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

              Kudos to Microsoft on Windows 7. I finally got the chance to play with it and I'm really impressed so far. The look, the feel, the speed all feels right. Now I really need a new computer at home.

              Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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              peterchen
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              Welcome to the future of 2008. :rolleyes:

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              • L Lost User

                In Windows Explorer try going to Libraries -> Documents in the left-hand window. Then in the right-hand window click on one of the "My ..." shortcuts and you will see what Christian is talking about.

                I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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                David Crow
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                Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                Then in the right-hand window click on one of the "My ..." shortcuts and you will see what Christian is talking about.

                But why is he trying to open something with a padlock on it? I would not expect it to open either. Each of those locked folders has an "unlocked" counterpart that works just fine.

                "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                "Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius

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                  Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                  Then in the right-hand window click on one of the "My ..." shortcuts and you will see what Christian is talking about.

                  But why is he trying to open something with a padlock on it? I would not expect it to open either. Each of those locked folders has an "unlocked" counterpart that works just fine.

                  "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                  "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                  "Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  but then why show me something I can't open?

                  "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    The one thing I hate is that I have one login on this machine, but the file system still shows 'my pictures', 'my downloads', etc under my documents ( twice, one folder and one shortcut ) and tells me I have no permission to open them when I try. Again, there is one login on this machine, I am the admin, the sole user, etc. Why show me stuff that I can't look at, but let me see it if I navigate to it slightly differently ?

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Chris C B
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                    I had that behaviour, until I moved the 'Chris C-B' folder to the D drive, in the approved way. I then deleted the shortcuts that had been left behind, and it all works just fine now.

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                    • L Lost User

                      In Windows Explorer try going to Libraries -> Documents in the left-hand window. Then in the right-hand window click on one of the "My ..." shortcuts and you will see what Christian is talking about.

                      I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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                      Sean Cundiff
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                      When I do that it takes me to the appropriate directory. I set up a lot of windows 7 machines and none of them has exhibited the behavior you describe. (At least in the Libraries->Documents folder).

                      -Sean ---- Fire Nuts

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                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                        but then why show me something I can't open?

                        "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams

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                        David Crow
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                        It has something to do with junction points and backward compatibility for programs that are unaware of the new folder structure in Windows Vista and 7. Programs trying to use those old folders will be silently redirected to the new location. There are many more places Windows will show you that you may not have permission to open. One more is nothing new. You could always configure Explorer to not show protected OS files.

                        "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                        "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                        "Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius

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                          Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                          Then in the right-hand window click on one of the "My ..." shortcuts and you will see what Christian is talking about.

                          But why is he trying to open something with a padlock on it? I would not expect it to open either. Each of those locked folders has an "unlocked" counterpart that works just fine.

                          "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                          "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                          "Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius

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                          Lost User
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                          DavidCrow wrote:

                          ut why is he trying to open something with a padlock on it?

                          Well I don't know what Christian's window looks like, but there are no padlocks on mine; yet when I click on them I get a dialog box telling me I don't currently have permission to access them. So why are they named "My ...", rather than "Somebody's ... but you may get access to it if you do a double back somersault while singing the Microsoft Corporate Song in a squeaky voice"? ;P

                          I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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                          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                            Kudos to Microsoft on Windows 7. I finally got the chance to play with it and I'm really impressed so far. The look, the feel, the speed all feels right. Now I really need a new computer at home.

                            Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                            Tomz_KV
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                            It is indeed much better than previous windows. However, you'll see problems as more and more programs are installed. It still gives you a blue screen of death from time to time. Performance degrades with time.

                            TOMZ_KV

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                            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                              Kudos to Microsoft on Windows 7. I finally got the chance to play with it and I'm really impressed so far. The look, the feel, the speed all feels right. Now I really need a new computer at home.

                              Web - BM - RSS - Math - LinkedIn

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                              Hans Dietrich
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                              Be sure to get 64-bit pc. Of course, most pc sold now are 64-bit capable. There's nothing like running two Visual Studios, VMWare, Firefox, and Pandora on a 12GB pc with dual quad-core cpus and W7x64 (less than 50% memory). :)

                              Best wishes, Hans


                              [Hans Dietrich Software]

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                              • S Sean Cundiff

                                When I do that it takes me to the appropriate directory. I set up a lot of windows 7 machines and none of them has exhibited the behavior you describe. (At least in the Libraries->Documents folder).

                                -Sean ---- Fire Nuts

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                                Lost User
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                                Right, I suspect I may have set my systems up incorrectly. Thanks for the tip.

                                I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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                                  Right, I suspect I may have set my systems up incorrectly. Thanks for the tip.

                                  I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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                                  Sean Cundiff
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                                  I will agree that the other issues are very annoying. For instance, I have 3 My Documents. One that is the unobtainable link, one that goes to my 'Documents' and one that has nothing in it.

                                  -Sean ---- Fire Nuts

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    The one thing I hate is that I have one login on this machine, but the file system still shows 'my pictures', 'my downloads', etc under my documents ( twice, one folder and one shortcut ) and tells me I have no permission to open them when I try. Again, there is one login on this machine, I am the admin, the sole user, etc. Why show me stuff that I can't look at, but let me see it if I navigate to it slightly differently ?

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    That's what you get for turning on show hidden/OS files. To allow badly written legacy apps (ie those that don't use win32 apis to get the folder locations) to keep working there're a whole mess of hidden shortcuts in the user folders. MS could've added yet another Really Really Really hidden files level; but 99% of us geeks who have show hidden files checked would just check Show Really Really Really hidden files as well so there'd not really be any point to it.

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                                      It has something to do with junction points and backward compatibility for programs that are unaware of the new folder structure in Windows Vista and 7. Programs trying to use those old folders will be silently redirected to the new location. There are many more places Windows will show you that you may not have permission to open. One more is nothing new. You could always configure Explorer to not show protected OS files.

                                      "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                                      "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                                      "Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius

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                                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                      DavidCrow wrote:

                                      configure Explorer

                                      ah, true, but I want to see those. need a different setting then.

                                      "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Right, I suspect I may have set my systems up incorrectly. Thanks for the tip.

                                        I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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                                        Sean Cundiff
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                                        ok, I just remembered why I have 3 my documents. one is for backward compatibility. The second was my original 'my documents' which is now empty. The third is my relocated 'my documents'. I right clicked on the original my documents and set the location to a partition that I put all of my important files on and that gets backed up regularly.

                                        -Sean ---- Fire Nuts

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          There is no reason I can see, it's a sign they still have not fixed the new security code to work properly

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          Dan Mos
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                                          The same here. No probs for me. The gods must really like you. :rolleyes: Or are you on MS blacklist? ;P The one thing I hate is the restriction to root(C:\) even when I run as admin(always) it still pops up the annoying stuff. Ultimate 64 here.

                                          All the best, Dan

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