Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. The Lounge
  3. Did Somebody Change Programming While I Was Working

Did Somebody Change Programming While I Was Working

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Lounge
sharepointdesigntestingbusinesssales
9 Posts 8 Posters 0 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • S Offline
    S Offline
    SeattleC
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    For 20 years I was a programmer. I wrote programs and systems, with various teams. We did requirements, design, coding, testing. It was intellectually stimulating and fun. The last three or four years, all I can find is crufty old code bases that grumpy bosses want point-features added to in a tremendous hurry. Either you can't fix the code ('cause you have to be a minimal change from some open-source thing), or you mustn't fix the code, because it is vastly over-complex and under-documented, and you'll break it. And besides, they don't want you thinking. That's what some marketing guy gets paid to do. (What an oxymoron). Please restore my faith and write back if you get to design beautiful new things.

    end-of-line

    A W T S L 6 Replies Last reply
    0
    • S SeattleC

      For 20 years I was a programmer. I wrote programs and systems, with various teams. We did requirements, design, coding, testing. It was intellectually stimulating and fun. The last three or four years, all I can find is crufty old code bases that grumpy bosses want point-features added to in a tremendous hurry. Either you can't fix the code ('cause you have to be a minimal change from some open-source thing), or you mustn't fix the code, because it is vastly over-complex and under-documented, and you'll break it. And besides, they don't want you thinking. That's what some marketing guy gets paid to do. (What an oxymoron). Please restore my faith and write back if you get to design beautiful new things.

      end-of-line

      A Offline
      A Offline
      AspDotNetDev
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      I got to code for a pretty neat website, essentially from scratch, with integration into an open source CMS. I got to learn XSLT, more JavaScript, jQuery, and some new ways of doing things, so it has been pretty fun. Right now I'm kind of bored though, as I'm making much of the site multilingual capable and there is a lot of tedious work involved. It sure would be more interesting if I actually learned all 10 languages the site is supposed to be in and did the translations myself. :)

      [WikiLeaks Cablegate Cables]

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • S SeattleC

        For 20 years I was a programmer. I wrote programs and systems, with various teams. We did requirements, design, coding, testing. It was intellectually stimulating and fun. The last three or four years, all I can find is crufty old code bases that grumpy bosses want point-features added to in a tremendous hurry. Either you can't fix the code ('cause you have to be a minimal change from some open-source thing), or you mustn't fix the code, because it is vastly over-complex and under-documented, and you'll break it. And besides, they don't want you thinking. That's what some marketing guy gets paid to do. (What an oxymoron). Please restore my faith and write back if you get to design beautiful new things.

        end-of-line

        W Offline
        W Offline
        wizardzz
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        I did, but I changed jobs in November and lost that perk.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • S SeattleC

          For 20 years I was a programmer. I wrote programs and systems, with various teams. We did requirements, design, coding, testing. It was intellectually stimulating and fun. The last three or four years, all I can find is crufty old code bases that grumpy bosses want point-features added to in a tremendous hurry. Either you can't fix the code ('cause you have to be a minimal change from some open-source thing), or you mustn't fix the code, because it is vastly over-complex and under-documented, and you'll break it. And besides, they don't want you thinking. That's what some marketing guy gets paid to do. (What an oxymoron). Please restore my faith and write back if you get to design beautiful new things.

          end-of-line

          T Offline
          T Offline
          ToddHileHoffer
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          I'm writing something new. It is a rather small project though, just a few screens but fun. I'm using Silverlight and a MVVM pattern. I spent about a month learning this stuff and I am happy that I finally know what I am doing. I was very anti-Silverlight, but the UI is faster / better than HTML and Javascript.

          I didn't get any requirements for the signature

          A 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • S SeattleC

            For 20 years I was a programmer. I wrote programs and systems, with various teams. We did requirements, design, coding, testing. It was intellectually stimulating and fun. The last three or four years, all I can find is crufty old code bases that grumpy bosses want point-features added to in a tremendous hurry. Either you can't fix the code ('cause you have to be a minimal change from some open-source thing), or you mustn't fix the code, because it is vastly over-complex and under-documented, and you'll break it. And besides, they don't want you thinking. That's what some marketing guy gets paid to do. (What an oxymoron). Please restore my faith and write back if you get to design beautiful new things.

            end-of-line

            S Offline
            S Offline
            Super Lloyd
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            Maybe you can change company! ;-)

            A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • T ToddHileHoffer

              I'm writing something new. It is a rather small project though, just a few screens but fun. I'm using Silverlight and a MVVM pattern. I spent about a month learning this stuff and I am happy that I finally know what I am doing. I was very anti-Silverlight, but the UI is faster / better than HTML and Javascript.

              I didn't get any requirements for the signature

              A Offline
              A Offline
              AspDotNetDev
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              ToddHileHoffer wrote:

              the UI is faster / better than HTML and Javascript

              Understatement of the century! :)

              [WikiLeaks Cablegate Cables]

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • S SeattleC

                For 20 years I was a programmer. I wrote programs and systems, with various teams. We did requirements, design, coding, testing. It was intellectually stimulating and fun. The last three or four years, all I can find is crufty old code bases that grumpy bosses want point-features added to in a tremendous hurry. Either you can't fix the code ('cause you have to be a minimal change from some open-source thing), or you mustn't fix the code, because it is vastly over-complex and under-documented, and you'll break it. And besides, they don't want you thinking. That's what some marketing guy gets paid to do. (What an oxymoron). Please restore my faith and write back if you get to design beautiful new things.

                end-of-line

                L Offline
                L Offline
                Lost User
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Member 2941392 wrote:

                For 20 years I was a programmer

                Member 2941392 wrote:

                vastly over-complex and under-documented,

                Comes back to bite you, doesn't it :)

                ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • S SeattleC

                  For 20 years I was a programmer. I wrote programs and systems, with various teams. We did requirements, design, coding, testing. It was intellectually stimulating and fun. The last three or four years, all I can find is crufty old code bases that grumpy bosses want point-features added to in a tremendous hurry. Either you can't fix the code ('cause you have to be a minimal change from some open-source thing), or you mustn't fix the code, because it is vastly over-complex and under-documented, and you'll break it. And besides, they don't want you thinking. That's what some marketing guy gets paid to do. (What an oxymoron). Please restore my faith and write back if you get to design beautiful new things.

                  end-of-line

                  K Offline
                  K Offline
                  kmg365
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  Member 2941392 wrote:

                  mustn't fix the code, because it is vastly over-complex and under-documented, and you'll break it.

                  Thats why cobol *itches make $1** hour.

                  T 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • K kmg365

                    Member 2941392 wrote:

                    mustn't fix the code, because it is vastly over-complex and under-documented, and you'll break it.

                    Thats why cobol *itches make $1** hour.

                    T Offline
                    T Offline
                    TaipeiJim
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Yes, somebody changed the economics of programming (I've been programming for 42 years.) Allowing programmers to have fun has become too expensive because the 'market' has become sensitive only to the lowest price. We have only ourselves to blame for this because we all search for the lowest price on just about everything. This is why customer service had gone into the toilet and why being a programmer isn't much fun any more. Do what I did: retire and let them all go to H***! (except cave 76) The last bit is for the old-timers.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    Reply
                    • Reply as topic
                    Log in to reply
                    • Oldest to Newest
                    • Newest to Oldest
                    • Most Votes


                    • Login

                    • Don't have an account? Register

                    • Login or register to search.
                    • First post
                      Last post
                    0
                    • Categories
                    • Recent
                    • Tags
                    • Popular
                    • World
                    • Users
                    • Groups