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  • D Dalek Dave

    No, gods were invented because we were ignorant. They continued to exist so that people could be controlled. They do not exist and never have. However, if you want to believe that your magic sky pixie should control your life then fine, but do not impose this imaginary friend on those of us who have managed to get above the level of Bronze Age Peasant.

    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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    HimanshuJoshi
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    Looks like OP is a serious candidate for your Trolls list.

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    • F fjdiewornncalwe

      Next you're going to tell me that the earth is round.

      I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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      Ian Shlasko
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      Of course not! Well, I mean its surface is highly irregular... All of those little bumps and dips. Kind of like sandpaper, but on a larger scale. I suppose if you ignore all of the fine details, you could just call it round. And it sloshes a bit. Got all of that excess moisture clinging to the surface. The microbes that live on it call that the "ocean," but it seems like a waste of time to assign names to it. Kind of stinks a bit, too... Has this weird cloud of noxious fumes following it around... Nitrogen, Oxygen, and Hydrogen compounds, mostly... Nasty stuff... One's explosive, one's just a fire waiting to happen, and the last one is just toxic waste. But SOMEHOW the little microbes need it for their respiratory process. So as I was saying, I don't think anyone will really mind if we tear it down to make room for the new expressway... Honestly, who would miss it?

      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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      • R R Giskard Reventlov

        Do you have the slightest idea of how ridiculous all of that is? Presumably not, or you wouldn't be spouting such claptrap; there is no god. Prove me wrong without using the bible or anything that can't be demonstrated and repeated under laboratory conditions. Hey, gotta have some fun with religious fanatics, right?

        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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        Corporal Agarn
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        Gee that leaves out the start of evolution as it can't be demonstrated and repeated under laboratory conditions. :)

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          Of course not! Well, I mean its surface is highly irregular... All of those little bumps and dips. Kind of like sandpaper, but on a larger scale. I suppose if you ignore all of the fine details, you could just call it round. And it sloshes a bit. Got all of that excess moisture clinging to the surface. The microbes that live on it call that the "ocean," but it seems like a waste of time to assign names to it. Kind of stinks a bit, too... Has this weird cloud of noxious fumes following it around... Nitrogen, Oxygen, and Hydrogen compounds, mostly... Nasty stuff... One's explosive, one's just a fire waiting to happen, and the last one is just toxic waste. But SOMEHOW the little microbes need it for their respiratory process. So as I was saying, I don't think anyone will really mind if we tear it down to make room for the new expressway... Honestly, who would miss it?

          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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          fjdiewornncalwe
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          Nice... :)

          I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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            Gee that leaves out the start of evolution as it can't be demonstrated and repeated under laboratory conditions. :)

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            R Giskard Reventlov
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            Evolution can and has been demonstrated in a laboratory[^].

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              Evolution can and has been demonstrated in a laboratory[^].

              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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              Lost User
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              But that is merely continuing evolution, not its start. :)

              2011 - Our best hope is that things will be frightening and dangerous rather than desperate and horrific. Jesse's Café Américain

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              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                Evolution can and has been demonstrated in a laboratory[^].

                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                Corporal Agarn
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                Did they create the bacteria? Yes evolution is a fact, but how did it all start?

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  No, gods were invented because we were ignorant. They continued to exist so that people could be controlled. They do not exist and never have. However, if you want to believe that your magic sky pixie should control your life then fine, but do not impose this imaginary friend on those of us who have managed to get above the level of Bronze Age Peasant.

                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                  Tim Carmichael
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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  However, if you want to believe that your magic sky pixie should control your life then fine, but do not impose this imaginary friend on those of us who have managed to get above the level of Bronze Age Peasant.

                  And yet you continue to push YOUR beliefs on others...

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                  • T Tim Carmichael

                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    However, if you want to believe that your magic sky pixie should control your life then fine, but do not impose this imaginary friend on those of us who have managed to get above the level of Bronze Age Peasant.

                    And yet you continue to push YOUR beliefs on others...

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    I only respond.

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                    • I Ian Shlasko

                      Of course not! Well, I mean its surface is highly irregular... All of those little bumps and dips. Kind of like sandpaper, but on a larger scale. I suppose if you ignore all of the fine details, you could just call it round. And it sloshes a bit. Got all of that excess moisture clinging to the surface. The microbes that live on it call that the "ocean," but it seems like a waste of time to assign names to it. Kind of stinks a bit, too... Has this weird cloud of noxious fumes following it around... Nitrogen, Oxygen, and Hydrogen compounds, mostly... Nasty stuff... One's explosive, one's just a fire waiting to happen, and the last one is just toxic waste. But SOMEHOW the little microbes need it for their respiratory process. So as I was saying, I don't think anyone will really mind if we tear it down to make room for the new expressway... Honestly, who would miss it?

                      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      Ian Shlasko wrote:

                      Honestly, who would miss it?

                      The Mice?

                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                      • T Tim Carmichael

                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        However, if you want to believe that your magic sky pixie should control your life then fine, but do not impose this imaginary friend on those of us who have managed to get above the level of Bronze Age Peasant.

                        And yet you continue to push YOUR beliefs on others...

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                        fjdiewornncalwe
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                        The pusher is always the one who initiates the conversation.

                        I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          Honestly, who would miss it?

                          The Mice?

                          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                          fjdiewornncalwe
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                          Perhaps the lice as well.

                          I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                            Gee that leaves out the start of evolution as it can't be demonstrated and repeated under laboratory conditions. :)

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            Life has been created in a laboratory. And the beginning of life is so easy to explain I shall leave it as an excercise for the religious nutters to research and explain why they think it is difficult.

                            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              Life has been created in a laboratory. And the beginning of life is so easy to explain I shall leave it as an excercise for the religious nutters to research and explain why they think it is difficult.

                              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                              fjdiewornncalwe
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                              It has to be difficult because it doesn't fit into their conclusions. Beliefs aren't built because of proof and observation, they are presupposed and the observations and proofs must conform to that in order to be considered valid.

                              I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                Do you have the slightest idea of how ridiculous all of that is? Presumably not, or you wouldn't be spouting such claptrap; there is no god. Prove me wrong without using the bible or anything that can't be demonstrated and repeated under laboratory conditions. Hey, gotta have some fun with religious fanatics, right?

                                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                digital man wrote:

                                Prove me wrong without using the bible

                                The bible is part of a particular religion. What does religion have to do with whether there is a God? The bible could be wrong in every particular without it contributing to our understanding of whether or not there is a God.

                                “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                                • D Dalek Dave

                                  Fixed that title.

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                                  OriginalGriff
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                                  LOL! 5!

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                                  • F fjdiewornncalwe

                                    Next you're going to tell me that the earth is round.

                                    I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                    It's not. It's an oblate spheroid.

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      Life has been created in a laboratory. And the beginning of life is so easy to explain I shall leave it as an excercise for the religious nutters to research and explain why they think it is difficult.

                                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      Life has been created in a laboratory.

                                      I think that deserves a link. All my search comes up with is Creation of a Bacterial Cell Controlled by a Chemically Synthesized Genome[^].

                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      And the beginning of life is so easy to explain

                                      When I read this I thought: 'Wow! Have one and seventy of the jarring sects been confuted? Has the science now been settled?'. Alas, Googling revealed: No. So, which is your favourite hypothesis?

                                      2011 - Our best hope is that things will be frightening and dangerous rather than desperate and horrific. Jesse's Café Américain

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        And... You only believe in them because you were brainwashed as a child. That is tantamount to child abuse and should be banned. People then use this old bollocks to impose rules against free will, to castigate others and to wage war. The leaders of these 'religions' are useless turds who have to sit and pontificate on morals and why people should obey them because they are to thick and lazy to do a real job. And why does Islam subjugate women? Wear this, do that etc? Because those who make the rules are ineffectual little men with tiny penises and big egos. Evolutionary speaking, it was women who choose men, they selected for the abiity to raise children, which is why humans are alone in the Ape family in having small canines. Men didn't fight one another for the right to breed, unlike bulls or lions or goats etc. This is why religions are shit, they do not take into account the real world or the reasons things happen. Good luck when you die, for oblivion awaits, and that is why Atheists don't start wars, they know that this life is the only one you have, so don't waste it on praying to flying ghosts.

                                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                                        I've always wondered if we somehow, magically removed religion from the planet whether humans would invent some other excuse to go to war.

                                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                          I've always wondered if we somehow, magically removed religion from the planet whether humans would invent some other excuse to go to war.

                                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                          Humans need no excuse to go to war, the drive is innate to human nature for the survival of the clan. Trading between clans may mitigate the need to compete, but, if that fails, the clan must wage war for essential resources, or be subsumed into another clan. This innate drive is used by rulers to promote wars of survival or acquisition. Countries need to unite a confederacy of clans in a common cause. Religion is merely one way of differentiating "us" from "them". We can always find others, even if we have to invent them: e.g., World War 1 the Germans became "the Hun", depicted as barbarians and savages with no respect for European civilisation and humanitarian values. (For wars of acquisition, the promise of Rape and Pillage is often sufficient - another unpleasant trait in humans.)

                                          2011 - Our best hope is that things will be frightening and dangerous rather than desperate and horrific. Jesse's Café Américain

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