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  • D Dalek Dave

    Astronomy has a tradition of naming heavenly bodies after Gods and Goddesses of many cultures and mythologies. Good job too, Uranus was originally called George.

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    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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    Dalek Dave wrote:

    Ur:anus was originally called Ge:orge

    FTFY!

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    • G Gregory Gadow

      And I suspect there are quite a few of you. :-D Among other things, I am an aspiring science fiction writer. Right now I'm taking a break from my novel to flesh out my "future history" and I want to make sure my choice of names isn't too offensive. Towards the end of 2137, an asteroid is discovered on an impact trajectory with Earth. It is big - aproximately 13.8 km in diameter, bigger than the Chixulub meteor - and had been missed by reconnaisance projects because it had sling-shotted around the sun and was heading outwards, a direction we simply never bothered to watch. An article in the Times of India compares the asteroid to the demon Kali (not to be confused with the goddess Ka:li: ), a figure in Hinduism whose arrival marks the last age of existence before everything starts over again. An interplanetary freighter is fitted with several large missiles and named Kalki, the incarnation of Vishnu who will defeat Kali. Both the missiles and a later crash of the freighter itself into the asteroid fail either to shatter it or significantly alter its course. The asteroid impacts on Dec. 13 (which by an unplanned happy coincidence is a Friday) at a very oblique angle and breaks into three pieces. The two larger ones "bounce" off the atmosphere and sail safely away; the third makes a dramatic fireball over Brazil and Peru and lands in the Pacific about 90 km off the coast of Ecuador, slowed enough and sufficiently vaporized that the splash it not noticeable on Ecuador's beaches. This is a key part of my history, as it convinces Earth's governments to work together towards interstellar space travel. Before I commit myself to these names, I would appreciate some feedback.

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      dan sh
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      You can probably name your asteroid as "Kaal Bhairav". I would suggest "Kaal" since people from West can go quite close to it's pronunciation. You also try "Yamaraj" or just "Yam" if the asteroid is like killing life. If you want to portrait it as a destroyer, use "Shiva" which basically is the destroyer from the trinity we have. Although this would offend a large amount of people since he is, well, a good destroyer.

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      • G Gregory Gadow

        I've thought about this myself :-D When discovered, the asteroid was about 13 km in diameter; the two efforts to break it up still left it just over 10 km. It hit the atmosphere at a very oblique angle and broke apart, with most of the asteroid ricocheting back into space on safe trajectories. The one major piece that did impact the surface traveled almost 2000 km before landing in the Pacific, which should be more than enough time to lose most of its mass and velocity. That isn't to say that there was no aftermath, though: the heat added to the air from that fragment wreaked havoc with weather patterns for decades, large areas of the Brazil was destroyed by the shock wave from the concussive impact and many of those who survived watching the fragment go overhead were deafend by the blast. It wasn't a "thank goodness it missed us" event by any stretch. Like I said, the purpose is to make the people of Terra very anxious that all of humanity's eggs are in one stellar basket.

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        Dalek Dave
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        OK, but, a meteorite that big would not lose much mass, and even though there would be some loss of velocity, remember it would still be slamming into the Earth at circa 100,000 mph, so it would only be in the atmosphere for a couple of seconds. The damage to the atmosphere you are indicating would be caused more by the impacting rather than the ripping through (and remember that meteors are very cold until they impact). Certainly though the blast wave would cause immense damage, and don't forget the antipodal impact reverberations, they could cause a flood basalt event.see here[^].

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        • D dan sh

          You can probably name your asteroid as "Kaal Bhairav". I would suggest "Kaal" since people from West can go quite close to it's pronunciation. You also try "Yamaraj" or just "Yam" if the asteroid is like killing life. If you want to portrait it as a destroyer, use "Shiva" which basically is the destroyer from the trinity we have. Although this would offend a large amount of people since he is, well, a good destroyer.

          "Your code will never work, Luc's always will.", Richard MacCutchan[^]

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          Dalek Dave
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          Shiva has been used as a Deadly Virus in 'Executive Orders'.

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          • H HimanshuJoshi

            People will confuse Kali[^] with Ka:li:[^], better you name him by his full name "Kali Yuga"; which is basically the current age of Mankind and we are on the verge of it's start only. But if you want to go full science fictional why bother with taking names from religions? Invent some names that sounds like science fiction, not mythology.

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            dan sh
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            I wonder how many understand "Kali yug" as well. Maybe we can use something off the Garuda Puran. Maybe "kinkara".

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            • D Dalek Dave

              Shiva has been used as a Deadly Virus in 'Executive Orders'.

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              dan sh
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              That's basically a chimera virus named by IMHO some ignorant guy.

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              • D dan sh

                That's basically a chimera virus named by IMHO some ignorant guy.

                "Your code will never work, Luc's always will.", Richard MacCutchan[^]

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                Dalek Dave
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                Good book though.

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                • D dan sh

                  You can probably name your asteroid as "Kaal Bhairav". I would suggest "Kaal" since people from West can go quite close to it's pronunciation. You also try "Yamaraj" or just "Yam" if the asteroid is like killing life. If you want to portrait it as a destroyer, use "Shiva" which basically is the destroyer from the trinity we have. Although this would offend a large amount of people since he is, well, a good destroyer.

                  "Your code will never work, Luc's always will.", Richard MacCutchan[^]

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                  Gregory Gadow
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                  My understanding is that the chief target of Shiva is ignorance. Anyway, I don't so much want a being of destruction as one of chaos and evil, which Shiva is not.

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                  • G Gregory Gadow

                    My understanding is that the chief target of Shiva is ignorance. Anyway, I don't so much want a being of destruction as one of chaos and evil, which Shiva is not.

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                    dan sh
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                    Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                    chaos and evil

                    Try these[^] then.

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                    • G Gregory Gadow

                      My understanding is that Kali Yuga means "the time of Kali" and would be better used for the aftermath of the impact, not the asteroid itself. Regarding why religion, that's why I offered some of the backstory: to explain how the name came to be widely used around the planet. Anyway, religious names are commonly used for such things, and borrowings from Greek, Roman and Judeo-Christian traditions - Apophis, Nemesis and so on - have been pretty overused.

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                      HimanshuJoshi
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                      Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                      My understanding is thath, i Yuga means "the time of Kali"

                      And that started when Lord Krishna left earth around 5000 years ago according to Vishnu-purana. It means dark times when sins such as lying, cheating is more common. Kali represents the all the evil that is in earth.

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                      Anyway, religious names are commonly used for such things, and borrowings from Greek, Roman and Judeo-Christian traditions - Apophis, Nemesis and so on - have been pretty overused.

                      I know that these things have been borrowed from religions and traditions, but my point is that if you really don't want to piss any religion, then use made up words.

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                      • G Gregory Gadow

                        I will look into those, thanks for the suggestion.

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                        HimanshuJoshi
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                        Those won't be historically accurate, since they are daemons which affect Sun and Moon and cause Eclipses according to hindu mythology. So if you are going for something matching along the lines of hindu mythologic accuracy, I suggest you to stick to Kali or Kali yuga.

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                        • H HimanshuJoshi

                          Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                          My understanding is thath, i Yuga means "the time of Kali"

                          And that started when Lord Krishna left earth around 5000 years ago according to Vishnu-purana. It means dark times when sins such as lying, cheating is more common. Kali represents the all the evil that is in earth.

                          Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                          Anyway, religious names are commonly used for such things, and borrowings from Greek, Roman and Judeo-Christian traditions - Apophis, Nemesis and so on - have been pretty overused.

                          I know that these things have been borrowed from religions and traditions, but my point is that if you really don't want to piss any religion, then use made up words.

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                          Or he could use Sutekh, Ancient Egyptian God of Deserts and Storms, very apt. And not too many ancient egyptians around these days.

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            Or he could use Sutekh, Ancient Egyptian God of Deserts and Storms, very apt. And not too many ancient egyptians around these days.

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                            HimanshuJoshi
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                            yeah and if any of them are here all of them would be busy partying off their new found freedom.

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                              yeah and if any of them are here all of them would be busy partying off their new found freedom.

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                              They couldn't afford to party, they all lost their money on an illegal pyramid scheme!

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                              • D dan sh

                                Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                                chaos and evil

                                Try these[^] then.

                                "Your code will never work, Luc's always will.", Richard MacCutchan[^]

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                                Gregory Gadow
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                                That will be helpful, thanks!

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                                • D Dalek Dave

                                  I can't help with the names, but scientifically speaking, any bolide of significant size would cause such desruction as to be then end of civilisation. Impactor of 1km at the shallow angle would slam into the sea causing a megatsunami, plus uplift of many billions of tons of material, the larger stuff being ballistic and impacting over most of the hemisphere, and a resultant nuclear winter. A ten meter bolide has the energy of the Hiroshima bomb, so start scaling up from there. I would suggest your impactor should be several 'small scale impacts' (5 to 10 meters) over a wide area, and one larger one,(say 100 meters) with an oceanic landing, but on continental shelf, that way the damage, whilst spectacular, is not an extintion event. Barringer Crater was a 50 meter bolide, imagine that in New York, or, preferably, Paris. However, clever use of names. The Kaali Bolide hit Estonia about 2700 years ago.see here[^]. It was only a little one, but interesting, don't you think.

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                                  Soulus83
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                                  Remember what happened at Tunguska!!! ;P

                                  "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--either way, you are right." — Henry Ford

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                                    Remember what happened at Tunguska!!! ;P

                                    "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--either way, you are right." — Henry Ford

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                                    Dalek Dave
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                                    Mulder nearly died!

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                                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      Ur:anus was originally called Ge:orge

                                      FTFY!

                                      "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                                      Dalek Dave
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                                      Why the colons?

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        Why the colons?

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                                        AspDotNetDev
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                                        Because Ur:anus has a colon?

                                        [WikiLeaks Cablegate Cables]

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                                          Because Ur:anus has a colon?

                                          [WikiLeaks Cablegate Cables]

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                                          Dalek Dave
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                                          Oh dear! 5!

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