Is "binary" a language?
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
A language is a system of symbols and rules used for communicating. Therefore you could imply that binary is a language, in that it has symbols (albeit only 2), and it has rules for combining these symbols into a structure that can be interpreted by another person without the originator being present.
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That's like saying the alphabet is a language. Binary can provide the building blocks of a language, but I do not see how it can be a language itself.
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Exactly, it's an alphabet.
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
No, at least not in the commonly held notion of what a language is. It could be construed to be an alphabet, of sorts, by which you can build meaning by combining the characters to produce 'words' that convey a meaning that is more than the sum of the parts. Another test might be that language is a spoken medium and it would be pretty difficult to speak binary in that you could voice a string of zeroes and ones with appropriate breaks or stresses whereas with a 'normal' language the characters combine to create meaning that can be articulated vocally in a meaningful way with more natural or learnt breaks and stresses. I suppose if you could find someone else that spoke binary you would have a language but it would, to our ears, sound very odd and take a long time to say almost nothing. :-)
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
No, binary is no more a language than decimal.
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
you are right, and so are they. try and define language. 1. everything is a language, as it has vocabulary, has or could have syntax (rules about what is allowed and isn't allowed), has or could have semantics (giving meaning to the linguistic building blocks). 2. there are no languages, it is impossible to strictly define a language; all practical languages are ambiguous to some degree; a lot of languages can not even be parsed correctly all the time. if you find time to discuss such things at work, it tells me there are too many of you at your job... now go back to work and write some more assembly instructions. :) PS: is DNA a language?
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
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you are right, and so are they. try and define language. 1. everything is a language, as it has vocabulary, has or could have syntax (rules about what is allowed and isn't allowed), has or could have semantics (giving meaning to the linguistic building blocks). 2. there are no languages, it is impossible to strictly define a language; all practical languages are ambiguous to some degree; a lot of languages can not even be parsed correctly all the time. if you find time to discuss such things at work, it tells me there are too many of you at your job... now go back to work and write some more assembly instructions. :) PS: is DNA a language?
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
everything is a language
When I fart very carefully, I can almost pick out de-stinked words.
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010000100110010100100000011100110111010101110010011001 010010000001110100011011110010000001100100011100100110 100101101110011010110010000001111001011011110111010101 110010001000000100111101110110011000010110110001110100 01101001011011100110010100101110
Not sure who's the biggest nerd - you for writing that or me for working it out.
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
everything is a language
When I fart very carefully, I can almost pick out de-stinked words.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997there probably are too many dialects for your language to be really useful. :)
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
Definitely a language. Definitely not a programming language.
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
Is it machine language?
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Help us settle a programmatic civil war here at my job... The first camp says "binary is NOT any kind of language". The second camp says "binary IS a kind of language". Neither camp is implying that there are teams of binary programmers out there or anything, there's just a debate on what constitutes a "language". What say you? Is binary a language? Thanks!
Emrak123 wrote:
Is binary a language?
You can start the logical reasoning with a very simple question. Define first what is a language. Then check if binary meets the definition of language. While this is the rudimentary answer, some times there are gray areas. What if it meets many of the definitions, but lacks some? We all know that All programming languages' output are eventually converted to binary. So, some arbitrary valid program may have its binary representation as [ONLY for Presentation, not valid code]
10011101000101011110111110101010101010101010101010100 00101010010101010101010101010101010100101010101010101 01010010101000101010111101010001010100010100010100010 10010100010101010001010001010001010001011111110100111Now, for all practical purpose anyone could hand pick those exact binaries and construct it exactly and feed it to the computer and the result will be exactly the same [There are many details omitted from this process], So would that make binary a language? Absolutely not.Yusuf May I help you?
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Not sure who's the biggest nerd - you for writing that or me for working it out.
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
everything is a language
When I fart very carefully, I can almost pick out de-stinked words.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997:laugh: :laugh:
