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    swjam
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    start-ups-don't-use-MS-Tech doing the rounds these past few days. i like .Net for how it supports good software engineering practice and at the same time makes it easy on the developer allowing for much better focus on business logic. i think scaling problems really is up to the implementor of the technology and not intrinsic on .Net stack.

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      start-ups-don't-use-MS-Tech doing the rounds these past few days. i like .Net for how it supports good software engineering practice and at the same time makes it easy on the developer allowing for much better focus on business logic. i think scaling problems really is up to the implementor of the technology and not intrinsic on .Net stack.

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      Rob Philpott
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      Agreed.

      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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        start-ups-don't-use-MS-Tech doing the rounds these past few days. i like .Net for how it supports good software engineering practice and at the same time makes it easy on the developer allowing for much better focus on business logic. i think scaling problems really is up to the implementor of the technology and not intrinsic on .Net stack.

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        l a u r e n
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        i can tell you from experience that the licensing issues related to using microsoft products, along with higher pricing for hosting accounts etc, are what most people steer clear of at the start-up stage ... then, when they grow and *could* afford the licensing terms, they already have technology built on the free stuff they started with, so they stay with it i think also the fact that *most* open source platforms adhere to open standards far better than a proprietary company ever would or could just my 2c

        "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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          start-ups-don't-use-MS-Tech doing the rounds these past few days. i like .Net for how it supports good software engineering practice and at the same time makes it easy on the developer allowing for much better focus on business logic. i think scaling problems really is up to the implementor of the technology and not intrinsic on .Net stack.

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          swjam wrote:

          i think scaling problems really is up to the implementor of the technology and not intrinsic on .Net stack.

          Well that is technical aspect of it. What about business aspect of it? The problem is that while you can design a perfect scale-out solution with .NET, it will cost you way lot more than a solution designed in Linux. The reason is that you have to pay licensing fees for OS on all the machines you bought.

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            swjam wrote:

            i think scaling problems really is up to the implementor of the technology and not intrinsic on .Net stack.

            Well that is technical aspect of it. What about business aspect of it? The problem is that while you can design a perfect scale-out solution with .NET, it will cost you way lot more than a solution designed in Linux. The reason is that you have to pay licensing fees for OS on all the machines you bought.

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            swjam
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            well if i was a start up, scaling would be a problem i would like to have. it costs money to make money.

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              well if i was a start up, scaling would be a problem i would like to have. it costs money to make money.

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              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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              swjam wrote:

              it costs money to make money.

              Sure! But the question is will you spend let's say $600 to make $1000 or $100 to make $1000 during initial stages. During initial stages, cash is a problem for startups and money they can save on software licensing counts big. Sometimes, it may be as high as salaries for 2 employees. .NET does not offer any extra real benefit and flexibility over freely available tools. So the question will be why spend that much money (which could be spent on other things such as employees). That is precisely the reason why Microsoft started Bizspark. This helps companies minimize cost during the startup phase and then in 3 years time when company has more profits they can spend on the software licenses.

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                start-ups-don't-use-MS-Tech doing the rounds these past few days. i like .Net for how it supports good software engineering practice and at the same time makes it easy on the developer allowing for much better focus on business logic. i think scaling problems really is up to the implementor of the technology and not intrinsic on .Net stack.

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                Precisely. Just because you use .NET doesn't mean you're stuck with SQL Server, and data access (and sync) is the biggest issue in scalability.

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  Precisely. Just because you use .NET doesn't mean you're stuck with SQL Server, and data access (and sync) is the biggest issue in scalability.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  MecAlex
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                  What a nice topic to discuss! Typical my situation: Sql+.NET+HTML5+JavaScript+Jquery... Uf... Life is beautiful, roof is down... :laugh:

                  We live in a Newtonian world of Einsteinian physics ruled by Frankenstein logic

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                    i can tell you from experience that the licensing issues related to using microsoft products, along with higher pricing for hosting accounts etc, are what most people steer clear of at the start-up stage ... then, when they grow and *could* afford the licensing terms, they already have technology built on the free stuff they started with, so they stay with it i think also the fact that *most* open source platforms adhere to open standards far better than a proprietary company ever would or could just my 2c

                    "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                    except for the fact that, as a startup, you can get most microsoft software free with legal licenses directly from microsoft.

                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                      start-ups-don't-use-MS-Tech doing the rounds these past few days. i like .Net for how it supports good software engineering practice and at the same time makes it easy on the developer allowing for much better focus on business logic. i think scaling problems really is up to the implementor of the technology and not intrinsic on .Net stack.

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                      most of the software needed for a startup can be had for free (legally, with licenses) directly from Microsoft.

                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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