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    http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/07/29/internet.explorer.dumb/index.html[^] What browser (internet thingy for IE folks) are you using?


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    Steve Maier
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    It does not make you dumb. People that use it have an average IQ lower than the average population. So it does not make you dumb, just that if you use IE, the you are dumb. That is what the study is saying, not me. I use all browsers to test out my web sites, so I do have to use IE.

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      http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/07/29/internet.explorer.dumb/index.html[^] What browser (internet thingy for IE folks) are you using?


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      Steve Mayfield
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      Since I am still using W2K at work, I'm stuck with IE6 :(

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        http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/07/29/internet.explorer.dumb/index.html[^] What browser (internet thingy for IE folks) are you using?


        I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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        This may be the king of all reposts. Look down three topics... :laugh: :laugh:

        The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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          This may be the king of all reposts. Look down three topics... :laugh: :laugh:

          The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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          Too slow. Now mine is a repost... :((

          The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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          • S Steve Maier

            It does not make you dumb. People that use it have an average IQ lower than the average population. So it does not make you dumb, just that if you use IE, the you are dumb. That is what the study is saying, not me. I use all browsers to test out my web sites, so I do have to use IE.

            Steve Maier

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            Steve Mayfield
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            or, we are so brilliant, we know all of the workarounds to make it work anyway (most of the time)

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              This may be the king of all reposts. Look down three topics... :laugh: :laugh:

              The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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              Steve Mayfield
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              but, this one did ask what browser we were using ;)

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                This may be the king of all reposts. Look down three topics... :laugh: :laugh:

                The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                Sorry, I read slow. I'm using IE :laugh:


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                  Sorry, I read slow. I'm using IE :laugh:


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                    Sorry, I read slow. I'm using IE :laugh:


                    I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

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                    AspDotNetDev
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                    Just just don't learn, do you?

                    Martin Fowler wrote:

                    Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.

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                      Since I am still using W2K at work, I'm stuck with IE6 :(

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                      boo! ...find a new job... ;P

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                        http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/07/29/internet.explorer.dumb/index.html[^] What browser (internet thingy for IE folks) are you using?


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                        Albert Holguin
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                        That's pretty funny... makes sense though, most people that use IE use it because it was already installed not because they prefer it over other browsers.

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                          Since I am still using W2K at work, I'm stuck with IE6 :(

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                          Steve Mayfield wrote:

                          still using W2K at work

                          :wtf: wow.

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                          • A Albert Holguin

                            That's pretty funny... makes sense though, most people that use IE use it because it was already installed not because they prefer it over other browsers.

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                            Good point. Part of the correlation could be due to people with more intelligence being given more choice, in general. Could also be that more intelligent people more often gravitate toward technical competence.

                            Martin Fowler wrote:

                            Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.

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                              http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/07/29/internet.explorer.dumb/index.html[^] What browser (internet thingy for IE folks) are you using?


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                              Joe Woodbury
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                              I use IE8 at work, Firefox 5 at home. I don't notice much of a difference except Firefox 5 bluescreens my home XP system and both are massive memory hogs if you leave them running. The Firefox Flash plug-in also sometimes goes crazy and uses up all CPU. I like both better than Chrome, Opera or IE9.

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                                http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/07/29/internet.explorer.dumb/index.html[^] What browser (internet thingy for IE folks) are you using?


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                                IE - I think.  How can I tell? ;P /ravi

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                                  Good point. Part of the correlation could be due to people with more intelligence being given more choice, in general. Could also be that more intelligent people more often gravitate toward technical competence.

                                  Martin Fowler wrote:

                                  Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.

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                                  AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                  correlation could be due to people with more intelligence being given more choice

                                  The article is not about intelligence - it is about IQ. There is no definition of IQ other than a measure of one's ability to do IQ tests. I am using MS-IE as I am on a locked down company system. Any company with a legacy of products will have some that were designed myopically. Mant companies still refuse to accept Open Source software as they equate it with coming from unverifiable sources, same as viruses. Also, why should a person who is intelligent necessarily be sufficiently IT savvy to change browsers? Are you, as an above average intelligent person able to to perform skills in domains that are the province of other intelligent people?

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                                    http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/07/29/internet.explorer.dumb/index.html[^] What browser (internet thingy for IE folks) are you using?


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                                    The phrasing of your question reminds me of a story from my previous employment. Very unsophisticated users; I'm out to show them a simple web application I'd developed for them. Me: Start your favorite browser Them: *blank stare*... Me: You know, Internet Explorer or whatever you use to see web sites Them: Oh, you want me to start the internet? Yes, and give it some gas once it turns over... On the plus side, it gave me an opportunity to give a little education on how things work and increase their understanding just a bit.

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                                      http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/07/29/internet.explorer.dumb/index.html[^] What browser (internet thingy for IE folks) are you using?


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                                      Mark AJA
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                                      I could replace 'IE' with the word 'Netscape', but they are too dumb to know what I am on about. So your saying that you have to be very cleaver to get all the Netscape clones working and displaying pages the same way. You will have to be very very cleaver as it's imposable.

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                                        AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                        correlation could be due to people with more intelligence being given more choice

                                        The article is not about intelligence - it is about IQ. There is no definition of IQ other than a measure of one's ability to do IQ tests. I am using MS-IE as I am on a locked down company system. Any company with a legacy of products will have some that were designed myopically. Mant companies still refuse to accept Open Source software as they equate it with coming from unverifiable sources, same as viruses. Also, why should a person who is intelligent necessarily be sufficiently IT savvy to change browsers? Are you, as an above average intelligent person able to to perform skills in domains that are the province of other intelligent people?

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                                        jsc42 wrote:

                                        There is no definition of IQ other than a measure of one's ability to do IQ tests.

                                        Call it a wild theory, but I'm going to guess there is a correlation between IQ test results and intelligence. Perhaps it's not not a perfect system, but how else are we to judge an individual's intelligence (if we are to do so at all)?

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                                        Mant companies still refuse to accept Open Source software as they equate it with coming from unverifiable sources, same as viruses.

                                        Being a software developer (and especially because I am a web developer, in particular), it is a necessity that my workstation be unlocked so that I may install software and web browsers as I choose. That is just specific to my case, but there are certainly some trends particular to my case that might be applicable to a greater population in similar positions.

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                                        Also, why should a person who is intelligent necessarily be sufficiently IT savvy to change browsers?

                                        People with lower intelligence will be less likely to be in positions where they need to use a particular browser. If a certain population, such as software developers, are skewed toward higher intelligence, and that group has certain proclivities (e.g., using different browsers, either out of desire or out of higher probability due to higher capability or higher interest), it makes sense that any sampling of a general population would result in a higher distribution of those with higher intelligence to those proclivities.

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                                        Are you, as an above average intelligent person able to to perform skills in domains that are the province of other intelligent people?

                                        Question is, would a person of lower than average intelligence be likely to perform skills in the domain of a higher intelligence individual. Basically, why would they switch browsers if they have no interest in doing so and they have no need to?

                                        Martin Fowler wrote:

                                        Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.

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                                          http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/07/29/internet.explorer.dumb/index.html[^] What browser (internet thingy for IE folks) are you using?


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                                          My experience is that most lusers don't know that you can have more than one browser and (horrors) have more than one running at a time. (Shouldn't the CPU burst into flames if you do?) So I'd assign a few more IQ points for getting past the Microsoft FUD. But what struck me from the article was

                                          Internet Explorer is the world's most popular browser, with about a 43% share, according to StatCounter. Firefox has just under 30%, and Google's Chrome has 19%, according to a report from May.

                                          MSIE is down to 43%? My, how the mighty have fallen. Last I heard it was still over 50%. Hope spring eternal that I may not be restricted to developing for IE. I have my minions working on converting our code base to be browser agnostic, but it is slow going. The group is too mired in MSIE quirks and some bits of the code still says "For IE 4.0 or greater"

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