Windows 8: Pushing hated UI elements
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Dalek Dave wrote:
non-drying paint
Then it's not paint.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunOil based paints tend to dry very slowly or not at all. This is why oil paintings by artist can begin to drip and run under certain heat and humidity conditions. You can have an oil painting sitting for months and add a little linseed oil and go back at it.
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
I like the ribbon in Office2010, especially since it not only supports keyboard shortcuts but it also supports the old shortcuts that are part of my fine-motor memory. Gotta say that it takes a lot more work to create a good ribbon than a menu. I found the combination of menu and toobars a little messy. The ribbon integrates the two functions quite well.
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
I like ribbons. You can collapse the ribbon so that just the tabs show. It looks like a menu bar. Then you can add commands to the quick bar which kind of like a tool bar. Window 7 Explorer did away with tool bars. So with Windows 8 you can have a "tool bar" and a "menu bar". You can place the quick bar on the title bar, so it takes up even less real estate. Ribbons are vary flexible.
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
couldn't agree more. If you know what you want it's useless. the only benefit is the visuals. I like the ability to select table layouts in excel.. thats the only positive use i've found so far. everything else is just annoying and difficult.
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Does anyone like the ribbon interface? My wife, decidedly non geek, curses Office 2010 every day she has to use it because of the ribbon. I can't stand it myself. It takes up too much room with the added benefit of making things harder to find. I'm glad I bought my first Mac.[^] Yeah, I said it.
Are you talking about the new Origami interface marketed as the Ribbon? Man I just love that thing. My days used to be so boring before the Origami. Now each attempt to perform some action is a challenge., kind of like a game. Just the other day I had to solve 2 riddles before Origami would let me use the ‘Auditing’ Toolbar in Excel. Man this thing makes work feel more like, hard work. Granted it has hurt productivity but it helped IT sell management on justifying the upgrade since they had this fancy looking new interface to show (we managed to avoid demonstrating it ). I hate the Ribbon interface fiasco and I call it a fiasco not soo much because it’s a change I did not like (nor many other users around the world) but because of how Microsoft has handled it from first delivery till now. At every step of the process Micro$oft has actively denied there was anything more than a few unhappy users who would eventually convert and be happy with the Ribbon. I am more of a database man then OOP or other programming techniques but I did learn a few things in school taking OOP classes and that was the idea that you need to avoid tightly coupled objects in your program/code and it looks to me like Micro$oft has done the complete opposite of that with this Ribbon by making it a fixed/unchangeable part of software. If the interface was not tightly coupled to the functions it calls then you would think it would be an option so that all users would be able to choose which they like best, the Ribbon or the classic Menu/Tool bars. The Ribbon change wasn’t like other interface changes (i.e. Windows 3.1 to Windows 9x) where some were unhappy but most found it an improvement. Even now Micro$oft is pushing the darn thing down to Explorer for Windows 8 despite the large outcry of angst against this. Micro$oft couldn’t just make the existing program better they had to visually change it and enough to help justify the costs to purchase the new version.