Microsoft Certs.
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Afternoon All, I am considering doing a couple of microsoft certs to go along side my degree in computer science. I am enjoying C# at the minute and think a certification in C# would be handy. Any suggestions of which companys to use to get the certification i.e. should I use something like computeach or go through microsoft? Also are they actually worth anything towards a career or am I spending x amount on something not many companys are bothered with! Thanks
Don't. Bother.
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Afternoon All, I am considering doing a couple of microsoft certs to go along side my degree in computer science. I am enjoying C# at the minute and think a certification in C# would be handy. Any suggestions of which companys to use to get the certification i.e. should I use something like computeach or go through microsoft? Also are they actually worth anything towards a career or am I spending x amount on something not many companys are bothered with! Thanks
I think you may get more recognition if you write some articles here on CP. In terms of certification you can actually pay others to do the exams for you(so I hear)...
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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I think you may get more recognition if you write some articles here on CP. In terms of certification you can actually pay others to do the exams for you(so I hear)...
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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Cough, cough, where did you hear that? ;)
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Metro RSSThat's a nasty cold you've got coming on there mate.
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I think you may get more recognition if you write some articles here on CP. In terms of certification you can actually pay others to do the exams for you(so I hear)...
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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Afternoon All, I am considering doing a couple of microsoft certs to go along side my degree in computer science. I am enjoying C# at the minute and think a certification in C# would be handy. Any suggestions of which companys to use to get the certification i.e. should I use something like computeach or go through microsoft? Also are they actually worth anything towards a career or am I spending x amount on something not many companys are bothered with! Thanks
I encourage you to proceed on. Most employers need proof(certs) endorsed with expirience, yes expirience plus certs are important. I would recommend microsoft cert because I always think C# is theirs and widely used on their environment. Go on get certified.
I only read newbie introductory dummy books.
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That's a nasty cold you've got coming on there mate.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
Cheers for the replies much appreciated :)
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Cough, cough, where did you hear that? ;)
Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
Metro RSSHa ha - just google "Microsoft certifications", when I last did it the first page showed a company that would sit the exams for you :laugh:
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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Afternoon All, I am considering doing a couple of microsoft certs to go along side my degree in computer science. I am enjoying C# at the minute and think a certification in C# would be handy. Any suggestions of which companys to use to get the certification i.e. should I use something like computeach or go through microsoft? Also are they actually worth anything towards a career or am I spending x amount on something not many companys are bothered with! Thanks
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Afternoon All, I am considering doing a couple of microsoft certs to go along side my degree in computer science. I am enjoying C# at the minute and think a certification in C# would be handy. Any suggestions of which companys to use to get the certification i.e. should I use something like computeach or go through microsoft? Also are they actually worth anything towards a career or am I spending x amount on something not many companys are bothered with! Thanks
It depends on your career plans. Experience always wins though. You could have all of the certifications, but if the job offer is between you and a guy who has been in every type of project and lifted companies out of the dark ages and has references to back it they will win. Considering that though, experience will come to you, eventually. Getting the certifications is a good way to start. If you can land the job you want with out it though they will become useless. Your degree is still usefully after decades (so long as you stay in the field). However when I have been interviewing people and I see they received a certification over 5 years ago, I think to myself woopty do. You are out of date. Then I proceed with the interview and ask them about .Net 4.0 and what they think about Windows 8 etc (just to mess with them on the last one) If your plan is to find a full time job somewhere you may not have much need for them. If you plan is to be a consultant you will most deffinately want them. The grey zone between is do you plan to job hop.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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I think you may get more recognition if you write some articles here on CP. In terms of certification you can actually pay others to do the exams for you(so I hear)...
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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I think you may get more recognition if you write some articles here on CP. In terms of certification you can actually pay others to do the exams for you(so I hear)...
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
I wonder if they would accept money to write an article instead...
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Afternoon All, I am considering doing a couple of microsoft certs to go along side my degree in computer science. I am enjoying C# at the minute and think a certification in C# would be handy. Any suggestions of which companys to use to get the certification i.e. should I use something like computeach or go through microsoft? Also are they actually worth anything towards a career or am I spending x amount on something not many companys are bothered with! Thanks
If I were to interview someone, they will not impress me one bit with their certifications. If anything, I'll become a little suspicious. To me, certifications are not worth the time, money and efforts. However, it may help a job seeker get past the initial recruiters/HR line, because they may think high about it.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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If I were to interview someone, they will not impress me one bit with their certifications. If anything, I'll become a little suspicious. To me, certifications are not worth the time, money and efforts. However, it may help a job seeker get past the initial recruiters/HR line, because they may think high about it.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
cheers for your input, out of interest why would you be suspicious?
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It depends on your career plans. Experience always wins though. You could have all of the certifications, but if the job offer is between you and a guy who has been in every type of project and lifted companies out of the dark ages and has references to back it they will win. Considering that though, experience will come to you, eventually. Getting the certifications is a good way to start. If you can land the job you want with out it though they will become useless. Your degree is still usefully after decades (so long as you stay in the field). However when I have been interviewing people and I see they received a certification over 5 years ago, I think to myself woopty do. You are out of date. Then I proceed with the interview and ask them about .Net 4.0 and what they think about Windows 8 etc (just to mess with them on the last one) If your plan is to find a full time job somewhere you may not have much need for them. If you plan is to be a consultant you will most deffinately want them. The grey zone between is do you plan to job hop.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Thanks for that. You see this seems to be the issue at the minute, I am just finishing a summer placement for 3 months and going back to uni for another year. After being here for 3 months (not a software company but writing software for them) I have been looking at jobs for the future and it worries me alot that most places want x amount of experience and I simply won't have it. I know it means starting from the "bottom" of a company and gaining experience but I was hoping a few microsoft certs to go with my degree would push me out a bit more infront of other applicants with a similar low level of experience.
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I encourage you to proceed on. Most employers need proof(certs) endorsed with expirience, yes expirience plus certs are important. I would recommend microsoft cert because I always think C# is theirs and widely used on their environment. Go on get certified.
I only read newbie introductory dummy books.
Thanks for that appreciate your time in replying :)
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cheers for your input, out of interest why would you be suspicious?
Because someone with genuine skills do not need to do "certifications" of this sort. It's just my opinion though, and like I said, I won't add (or reduce) points for a potential candidate's certifications. I can speak only from my point of view, thinking of a situation where I'd hire for my team. However, like some other posters pointed out, it may add some value depending on the circumstances. You must evaluate if it's worth your time and efforts.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Afternoon All, I am considering doing a couple of microsoft certs to go along side my degree in computer science. I am enjoying C# at the minute and think a certification in C# would be handy. Any suggestions of which companys to use to get the certification i.e. should I use something like computeach or go through microsoft? Also are they actually worth anything towards a career or am I spending x amount on something not many companys are bothered with! Thanks
Get an internship or work on projects on your own. I find that certs are something consulting companies care about, but not much else.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson My comedy.
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Because someone with genuine skills do not need to do "certifications" of this sort. It's just my opinion though, and like I said, I won't add (or reduce) points for a potential candidate's certifications. I can speak only from my point of view, thinking of a situation where I'd hire for my team. However, like some other posters pointed out, it may add some value depending on the circumstances. You must evaluate if it's worth your time and efforts.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
Thanks appreciate that :)
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Because someone with genuine skills do not need to do "certifications" of this sort. It's just my opinion though, and like I said, I won't add (or reduce) points for a potential candidate's certifications. I can speak only from my point of view, thinking of a situation where I'd hire for my team. However, like some other posters pointed out, it may add some value depending on the circumstances. You must evaluate if it's worth your time and efforts.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
You may be right, but if you are the interviewer and you get a CV of a person who claims to have genuine skills but doesn't have any experience whatsoever and no computer degree and no certification. Would you call him for an interview? I think it's equally important. This not only shows you have the in depth knowledge of the subject but also shows you are career oriented and hard working. I would not hire a person with only certification. But degree and certification will definitely put the CV on top, if am looking for a graduates.