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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    Our car, the famed reliable Opel Zafira, is of the dock-side seamstress persuasion. Totally and utterly [REDACTED]. We have decided to burn the pile of crap replace it with something a bit more reliable. I was thinking about the Volvo XC90, but it is allegedly worse then the Zafira. So, do any of you drive a large people carrier, we want a six seater, that you think is reliable and would recommend.


    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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    Until early this year, I had a Shogun diesel - 7 seats, loads of space, in the seven years I had it (and it wasn't new then) I had one flat tire, and a blown oil seal on the diesel pump (even then it got me home - slowly - in a sequence of half mile bursts). Very reliable, but the fuel consumption was rather heavy at ~20mpg!

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      Until early this year, I had a Shogun diesel - 7 seats, loads of space, in the seven years I had it (and it wasn't new then) I had one flat tire, and a blown oil seal on the diesel pump (even then it got me home - slowly - in a sequence of half mile bursts). Very reliable, but the fuel consumption was rather heavy at ~20mpg!

      Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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      I like the Shogun. It might a be a tab big for the City [even Budapest has traffic] and for Mrs Wife. A lot of the mileage will be down the hill to take the grils to school. Do I really want her to be that type of Mom? :-D


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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        We have a Citroen C4 picasso, get a newish model and go for diesel.

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        Isn't the Picasso just a 5 seater?


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          The Peugeot 5008 is actually quite good, and has enough poke to still make it nice to drive. I hired one on holiday, and found it to be of good quality and it had plenty of room. It is a 7 seater, but hey ho, beggars can't be choosers.

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          We thought about a Peugeot a few cars back; might be worth another look.


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            I like the Shogun. It might a be a tab big for the City [even Budapest has traffic] and for Mrs Wife. A lot of the mileage will be down the hill to take the grils to school. Do I really want her to be that type of Mom? :-D


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            They are big - but if you want space inside with 6 or more seats and some luggage everything is. They have advantages too: they will go anywhere, in any conditions (pretty much) and if somebody pulls out in front of you they will notice more than you do! :laugh:

            Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              I like the Shogun. It might a be a tab big for the City [even Budapest has traffic] and for Mrs Wife. A lot of the mileage will be down the hill to take the grils to school. Do I really want her to be that type of Mom? :-D


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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              W Balboos GHB
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              Get her a Dodge Ram Pickup - throw as many kids in the back as you like.

              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

              Do I really want her to be that type of Mom?

              The cowgirl look has fringe benefits.

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                Our car, the famed reliable Opel Zafira, is of the dock-side seamstress persuasion. Totally and utterly [REDACTED]. We have decided to burn the pile of crap replace it with something a bit more reliable. I was thinking about the Volvo XC90, but it is allegedly worse then the Zafira. So, do any of you drive a large people carrier, we want a six seater, that you think is reliable and would recommend.


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                reliable -> Toyota Verso or Mazda 5. sexy -> Ford S-Max or the new grand C-Max (slider doors!).

                regards Torsten I never finish anyth...

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  Our car, the famed reliable Opel Zafira, is of the dock-side seamstress persuasion. Totally and utterly [REDACTED]. We have decided to burn the pile of crap replace it with something a bit more reliable. I was thinking about the Volvo XC90, but it is allegedly worse then the Zafira. So, do any of you drive a large people carrier, we want a six seater, that you think is reliable and would recommend.


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  Had many Toyotas: utterly reliable. The LandCruiser was the biggest (7 seater) when we did school runs and so forth. Excellent piece of kit.

                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    I like the Shogun. It might a be a tab big for the City [even Budapest has traffic] and for Mrs Wife. A lot of the mileage will be down the hill to take the grils to school. Do I really want her to be that type of Mom? :-D


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                    I like the Shogun

                    You like 4WDs? I thought they were against your religion? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                    ============================== Nothing to say.

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      Isn't the Picasso just a 5 seater?


                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                      NormDroid
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                      Sorry I meant the C4 Grand Picasso.

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        Our car, the famed reliable Opel Zafira, is of the dock-side seamstress persuasion. Totally and utterly [REDACTED]. We have decided to burn the pile of crap replace it with something a bit more reliable. I was thinking about the Volvo XC90, but it is allegedly worse then the Zafira. So, do any of you drive a large people carrier, we want a six seater, that you think is reliable and would recommend.


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                        dan sh
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                        I have seen few BMW X6 on road. It looks good to me. Not really sure about. You can buy that and if you do not like it, feel free to ship it to India. I will bear 9.99% of shipping charges. That's the best deal you can get. :)

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          Had many Toyotas: utterly reliable. The LandCruiser was the biggest (7 seater) when we did school runs and so forth. Excellent piece of kit.

                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                          Toyota Fortuner is also a good option if you want something a tad cheaper. Just not the most stable towing vehicle, especially with a heavier load.

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                            Until early this year, I had a Shogun diesel - 7 seats, loads of space, in the seven years I had it (and it wasn't new then) I had one flat tire, and a blown oil seal on the diesel pump (even then it got me home - slowly - in a sequence of half mile bursts). Very reliable, but the fuel consumption was rather heavy at ~20mpg!

                            Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                            20 mpg? Did you have an oil well? This is what Wikipedia writes about my car (which can only seat four people): "...1.2 TDI model can be as low as just over 2 litres per 100 kilometres (140 mpg-imp; 120 mpg-US). This version of the Audi A2 won the "Nordic Eco Run" fuel economy race in 2003, with a consumption of 2.62 L/100 km (107.8 mpg-imp; 89.8 mpg-US)"

                            And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                            "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                            And I smiled and was happy
                            And it came worse.

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                              20 mpg? Did you have an oil well? This is what Wikipedia writes about my car (which can only seat four people): "...1.2 TDI model can be as low as just over 2 litres per 100 kilometres (140 mpg-imp; 120 mpg-US). This version of the Audi A2 won the "Nordic Eco Run" fuel economy race in 2003, with a consumption of 2.62 L/100 km (107.8 mpg-imp; 89.8 mpg-US)"

                              And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                              "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                              And I smiled and was happy
                              And it came worse.

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                              I wish! 2.8l engine, but built like a tank (and with similar weight). Comfortable, but you could get a coal-bunker full of coal in the back and it didn't even notice. The cost of diesel when I bought it was a lot lower... :laugh:

                              Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                We thought about a Peugeot a few cars back; might be worth another look.


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                We had a Peugeot 807 Pullman Eventhough it was a nice car to drive it was expensive to maintain, and we always needed to wait for spares to be imported from France. In the first year we had to replace the catalytic converter, the throttle housing, the CO2 sensor, the oxygen sensor, the tyre pressure sensors and the automatic windscreen wiper sensor. The car spent a total of 4 months at the dealers for repairs, that year. The built quality was also not the best. The car came factory fitted with 3 sunroofs and all three leaked. If I ever had to opt for a french car again I would choose a Renault, they seem to be better built. But then again I will never buy a French car again. Since you are considering the XC90, you should also have look at the BMW X5.

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                                  I wish! 2.8l engine, but built like a tank (and with similar weight). Comfortable, but you could get a coal-bunker full of coal in the back and it didn't even notice. The cost of diesel when I bought it was a lot lower... :laugh:

                                  Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                                  To be honest, 2 litres/100 km is not what you reach in every day use, but 3L/100 km is realistic. With my tiny 20L tank I can still go over 600km. Not bad for a car that is now 10 years old.

                                  And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                                  "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                                  And I smiled and was happy
                                  And it came worse.

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                                    To be honest, 2 litres/100 km is not what you reach in every day use, but 3L/100 km is realistic. With my tiny 20L tank I can still go over 600km. Not bad for a car that is now 10 years old.

                                    And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                                    "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                                    And I smiled and was happy
                                    And it came worse.

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                                    Whereas I discovered that Tesco won't let you buy more than ~120 euros of fuel without paying for it and going back for more... 93l tank(!)

                                    Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                                      Our car, the famed reliable Opel Zafira, is of the dock-side seamstress persuasion. Totally and utterly [REDACTED]. We have decided to burn the pile of crap replace it with something a bit more reliable. I was thinking about the Volvo XC90, but it is allegedly worse then the Zafira. So, do any of you drive a large people carrier, we want a six seater, that you think is reliable and would recommend.


                                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                      What is your price range ? Q7s are sweet, but expensive.

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        Whereas I discovered that Tesco won't let you buy more than ~120 euros of fuel without paying for it and going back for more... 93l tank(!)

                                        Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                                        See, everything is in proportion: Roughly five times the fuel consumption and also five times the size of the tank :)

                                        And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                                        "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                                        And I smiled and was happy
                                        And it came worse.

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                                          See, everything is in proportion: Roughly five times the fuel consumption and also five times the size of the tank :)

                                          And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                                          "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                                          And I smiled and was happy
                                          And it came worse.

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                                          Unfortunately, we also have about the second highest fuel prices in Europe... :((

                                          Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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