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  • E ed welch

    Just wondering if anyone has tried out this format. It's only supported by Chrome of coarse, but it compresses better than jpeg and supports transparency (unfortunately, not alpha transparancy just yet)

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    Pete OHanlon
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    Ah, yet another Google-only "web standard". When Microsoft attempt this, they get slammed; when Google do this, people laud them. Oh, it must stink to be a Softie.

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      Ah, yet another Google-only "web standard". When Microsoft attempt this, they get slammed; when Google do this, people laud them. Oh, it must stink to be a Softie.

      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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      Luc Pattyn
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      I trust that you're a Bing addict then. :-D

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        I trust that you're a Bing addict then. :-D

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Hardly. I prefer Chrome to IE, and Google search to Bing. I just can't stomach the "holier than thou" attitude.

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        • E ed welch

          Just wondering if anyone has tried out this format. It's only supported by Chrome of coarse, but it compresses better than jpeg and supports transparency (unfortunately, not alpha transparancy just yet)

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          hairy_hats
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          ed welch wrote:

          (unfortunately, not alpha transparancy just yet)

          "WebP supports losseless transparency (also known as alpha channel)"[^]

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            Ah, yet another Google-only "web standard". When Microsoft attempt this, they get slammed; when Google do this, people laud them. Oh, it must stink to be a Softie.

            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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            ed welch
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            A lot of standards start off with one company introducing it and, if it's a good idea, everyone else adopting it (that's how ajax came about). You can be waiting for a long time for a standands commitee to approve something

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              ed welch wrote:

              (unfortunately, not alpha transparancy just yet)

              "WebP supports losseless transparency (also known as alpha channel)"[^]

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              ed welch
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              Not implemented yet. But in future versions of chome (hopefully)

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                Hardly. I prefer Chrome to IE, and Google search to Bing. I just can't stomach the "holier than thou" attitude.

                Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                I just can't stomach the "holier than thou" attitude.

                You missed the opportunity to add a '--- posted from my iPad ---' sig. :-D


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                • E ed welch

                  Just wondering if anyone has tried out this format. It's only supported by Chrome of coarse, but it compresses better than jpeg and supports transparency (unfortunately, not alpha transparancy just yet)

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                  Lost User
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                  Only when it was new. Does their encoder still suck? JPG is ancient and outdated, and WebP is theoretically better (though not state of the art), but libvpx (used to?) optimize for PSNR which is an almost useless quality metric (it loves blur - humans don't).

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                    Only when it was new. Does their encoder still suck? JPG is ancient and outdated, and WebP is theoretically better (though not state of the art), but libvpx (used to?) optimize for PSNR which is an almost useless quality metric (it loves blur - humans don't).

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                    ed welch
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                    The image quality looks fine to me

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                    • E ed welch

                      The image quality looks fine to me

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                      Just "it'll do" or better than JPG at the same filesize?

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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        I just can't stomach the "holier than thou" attitude.

                        You missed the opportunity to add a '--- posted from my iPad ---' sig. :-D


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                        *Hack spit* Posted from my Samsung Galaxy 10.1 Tablet.

                        Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                        • L Lost User

                          Just "it'll do" or better than JPG at the same filesize?

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                          ed welch
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                          It seems to compress better than jpeg, but that's not why I would use it. jpeg doesn't have transparency. That is the whole point of using it from my point of view

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                            It seems to compress better than jpeg, but that's not why I would use it. jpeg doesn't have transparency. That is the whole point of using it from my point of view

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                            You might as well use PNG then, right? It'll be bigger, but every browser supports it (except ancient IE's of course)

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                              *Hack spit* Posted from my Samsung Galaxy 10.1 Tablet.

                              Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              :-D


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                              • L Lost User

                                You might as well use PNG then, right? It'll be bigger, but every browser supports it (except ancient IE's of course)

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                                ed welch
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                                PNG is 5 times bigger. Totatally unaccepatable if you have big images.

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                                • E ed welch

                                  PNG is 5 times bigger. Totatally unaccepatable if you have big images.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  So you have jpg: no transparency. png: too big. webp: not supported. So.. GIF? :laugh:

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    *Hack spit* Posted from my Samsung Galaxy 10.1 Tablet.

                                    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                    Luc Pattyn
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                                    Isn't that related to the Nexus-that-may-go-all-silent-anytime? :)

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                                    • P Pete OHanlon

                                      Hardly. I prefer Chrome to IE, and Google search to Bing. I just can't stomach the "holier than thou" attitude.

                                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                      Luc Pattyn
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                                      I knew that. And you knew I did. And I knew you'd say that anyway. It is the product that matters, much more so than the manufacturer. :)

                                      Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

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                                        *Hack spit* Posted from my Samsung Galaxy 10.1 Tablet.

                                        Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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                                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                        *Hack spit* [2]

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                                        • E ed welch

                                          Just wondering if anyone has tried out this format. It's only supported by Chrome of coarse, but it compresses better than jpeg and supports transparency (unfortunately, not alpha transparancy just yet)

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                                          Chrisgo
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                                          Did you use "coarse" because it rubs you the wrong way?

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