Riddle Me This: iPhone vs iPod Touch
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Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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How about when you compare that to the iPhone 4 (rather than the iPhone 4S)? The iPhone 4 is still stupidly expensive.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
The iPhone4S is an iPhone4 with an A5 chip (and two radio modems). All the other specs that I mentioned are the same for the 4 and the 4S!
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Sounds like you want a SPOF phone, not WP7.
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Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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The iPhone4S is an iPhone4 with an A5 chip (and two radio modems). All the other specs that I mentioned are the same for the 4 and the 4S!
Not true. For example, the camera is different.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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Not true. For example, the camera is different.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
sorry, and that. but still u r comparin the ipod with the iphone, the iphone 4 and 4S have a lot more features than the ipod, which explains the price difference.
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sorry, and that. but still u r comparin the ipod with the iphone, the iphone 4 and 4S have a lot more features than the ipod, which explains the price difference.
I wouldn't say is has a lot more features, if we compare the iPhone 4 to the latest iPod Touch. Here are the ones I now know of: compass, GPS, oleophobic screen coating, phone network connectivity. The 8GB iPhone 4 is currently $550. The 8GB iPod Touch is $200. That's a $350 price increase, or nearly 3x the cost (actually, 2.75x). All for those 4 features.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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I wouldn't say is has a lot more features, if we compare the iPhone 4 to the latest iPod Touch. Here are the ones I now know of: compass, GPS, oleophobic screen coating, phone network connectivity. The 8GB iPhone 4 is currently $550. The 8GB iPod Touch is $200. That's a $350 price increase, or nearly 3x the cost (actually, 2.75x). All for those 4 features.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
+camera, LED, dedicated mic for noise cancelation, double RAM, larger battery, a harder to manufacture design, wall socket power adaptor, earphones with mic... everything adds up
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+camera, LED, dedicated mic for noise cancelation, double RAM, larger battery, a harder to manufacture design, wall socket power adaptor, earphones with mic... everything adds up
elie_khoury wrote:
camera
One of the cameras is better. The iPod Touch and iPhone 4 can take the same type of video, but the iPhone 4 can take 5 megapixel pictures, while the iPod Touch can take less than 1 megapixel pictures.
elie_khoury wrote:
dedicated mic for noise cancelation, double RAM, larger battery
I wasn't aware of either of those, which do add some value.
elie_khoury wrote:
wall socket power adaptor
They also overcharge for that. I bought one for about $10.
elie_khoury wrote:
earphones with mic
Perhaps an extra $5. I tried to get the exact cost of parts for both devices, but all I came up with was $188 for the iPhone 4 (that was last year though, and prices have surely gone down). Let me know if you can find an estimate of the parts for the iPod Touch 4G and perhaps we can do a sensible comparison. With the profit margin they are making on the iPhone and my guess for what it costs to make the iPod Touch (similar to the iPhone I'd say), they are really setting their price based on demand rather than cost to them. Thankfully, for me, other companies are finally coming up with products that are coming somewhat near what Apple is offering, so I can take my business elsewhere.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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The unsubsidized 32GB iPhone 4S costs $750, but the 32GB iPod Touch (can't be subsidized) costs $300. So, you're paying $450 for a phone without any extra features? :confused: :wtf: Is it just me, or is Apple royally screwing us? :((
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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elie_khoury wrote:
camera
One of the cameras is better. The iPod Touch and iPhone 4 can take the same type of video, but the iPhone 4 can take 5 megapixel pictures, while the iPod Touch can take less than 1 megapixel pictures.
elie_khoury wrote:
dedicated mic for noise cancelation, double RAM, larger battery
I wasn't aware of either of those, which do add some value.
elie_khoury wrote:
wall socket power adaptor
They also overcharge for that. I bought one for about $10.
elie_khoury wrote:
earphones with mic
Perhaps an extra $5. I tried to get the exact cost of parts for both devices, but all I came up with was $188 for the iPhone 4 (that was last year though, and prices have surely gone down). Let me know if you can find an estimate of the parts for the iPod Touch 4G and perhaps we can do a sensible comparison. With the profit margin they are making on the iPhone and my guess for what it costs to make the iPod Touch (similar to the iPhone I'd say), they are really setting their price based on demand rather than cost to them. Thankfully, for me, other companies are finally coming up with products that are coming somewhat near what Apple is offering, so I can take my business elsewhere.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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C'mon - aren't you in the software business? What's the cost of parts for a piece of software? What's the value? That's right - there is no relationship. There is obvious value in the iphone that many people are prepared to pay for.
The difference between the iPod Touch and the iPhone indicate the cost of the software is not an issue (the software on both is the same). And most companies will charge as much as they can for their product (based on supply/demand), regardless of the cost to produce that product. If they charge too much, however, another company will come along and offer a similar product for cheaper. And as a customer, I will choose the product based on my budget and requirements for a product. It might finally be time for me to choose something other than the iPhone. From a business perspective, a customer buying an iPhone is just a business transaction. From a customer perspective, the iPhone is looking more like an overpriced toy. And you should be thanking anybody who decides not to buy an iPhone. It drives the demand down, and lowers the price. :)
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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elie_khoury wrote:
camera
One of the cameras is better. The iPod Touch and iPhone 4 can take the same type of video, but the iPhone 4 can take 5 megapixel pictures, while the iPod Touch can take less than 1 megapixel pictures.
elie_khoury wrote:
dedicated mic for noise cancelation, double RAM, larger battery
I wasn't aware of either of those, which do add some value.
elie_khoury wrote:
wall socket power adaptor
They also overcharge for that. I bought one for about $10.
elie_khoury wrote:
earphones with mic
Perhaps an extra $5. I tried to get the exact cost of parts for both devices, but all I came up with was $188 for the iPhone 4 (that was last year though, and prices have surely gone down). Let me know if you can find an estimate of the parts for the iPod Touch 4G and perhaps we can do a sensible comparison. With the profit margin they are making on the iPhone and my guess for what it costs to make the iPod Touch (similar to the iPhone I'd say), they are really setting their price based on demand rather than cost to them. Thankfully, for me, other companies are finally coming up with products that are coming somewhat near what Apple is offering, so I can take my business elsewhere.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
That guy sums up everything I wanted to add: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-10295089-47.html[^]
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I think you're asking the wrong question. I don't care about the processor. What applications can the iphone run which the ipod can't? What can you do with the iphone that you can't do with the ipod? Do these differences justify the price difference?
If you don't care about the hardware upgrades, it doesn't mean they don't add value. It's like buying a bad ass PC. You don't need a bad ass PC to run application regular PCs do. What they do though is add to the lifetime of the device, since they will be able to run heavier application that come in the future. Caring or not about hardware, they do add value and cost. Does that alone justify the price difference? Doubtly, but they do add something. Apple just uses the culture around new stuff to overprice this added value. It works for them, because people buy it. For these and other reasons I don't buy anything from apple. If you're interested on buying either, I'd say go for the iPod, it makes much more sense if you don't care to be like the "cool" kids that own the latest of the shiniest.
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It may use hardware closer to the iPhone 4. The iPhone 4 currently starts at $550 for the 8GB version. Can't seem to find a 32GB version.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
If that is so, then the only reasone to buy an iPhone would be for the convenience to have a phone and an application ready device on a single piece of hardware. Again, apple knows of that and overprices it for this reason. And the funniest thing is that people buy that.
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