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  • J JDMoore

    Have you tried www.freevcs.de? Made for Delphi but we use it with out commercial VC dev work. It's free, and works very well without being intrusive. Cheers, James.

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    Neville Franks
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    I'll second that. I've been using FreeVCS for over a year quite hapilly. It has also recently gone open source, which should see a new lease of life. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. www.getsoft.com Make money with our new Affilate program

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    • G Gertjan Schuurmans

      It's written in Delphi, isn't it? -> that's always good thing :) My (personal) point of concern is that freevcs stores its data in a RDBMS (at least from what i understand after a quick look at the site). It's what i like most about CVS -> you'll always have a comprehensible, restorable filesystem structure backing your sources. regards Gertjan

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      A nice feature of the RDBMS is that you can store everything encrypted and also zipped. If you use it in a client/server configuration you can work remotely and know the source is secure. I backup the DB to CD etc. every so often. Also I've never had a DB problem and it gets heavilly used. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. www.getsoft.com Make money with our new Affilate program

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      • S Shaun Wilde

        Any recommendations? I've tried CVS (WinCVS) but I don't like it - it just isn't intuitive (which is typical from anything created by the UNIX mob) I've used clearcase from rational and mks (over 4 years ago). Any other candidates. Requirements: Source control management. I need to be able to support multiple branches and be able to merge between many branches to create a final solution.

        Technically speaking the dictionary would define Visual Basic users as programmers.
        But here again, a very generalized, liberal definition is being employed and it's wrong
        - just plain wrong - Tom Archer 5/12/02

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        We use Perforce[^] here. The only other sourcecontrol I've used is SourceSafe, and Perforce is lightyears ahead of it.... but that's really not saying much. ;P I prefer to wear gloves when using it, but that's merely a matter of personal hygiene [Roger Wright on VB] Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. [Rich Cook]

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        • S Shaun Wilde

          Any recommendations? I've tried CVS (WinCVS) but I don't like it - it just isn't intuitive (which is typical from anything created by the UNIX mob) I've used clearcase from rational and mks (over 4 years ago). Any other candidates. Requirements: Source control management. I need to be able to support multiple branches and be able to merge between many branches to create a final solution.

          Technically speaking the dictionary would define Visual Basic users as programmers.
          But here again, a very generalized, liberal definition is being employed and it's wrong
          - just plain wrong - Tom Archer 5/12/02

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          The market is getting rather crowded these days. I've used quite a few, but I always seem to keep going back to SourceSafe for a number of reasons. StarTeam was always one of my favorites, but it can be a bit clunky and slow. It's "medium priced" at about $500 a seat. Recently, they were aquired by Borland though and I'm guessing that the Borland death-touch will soon grind them into the ground. Perforce isn't bad, though last I saw their GUI was still rather primitive. I like the feature set though, and Change Lists rule. An up and comer is AccuRev http://www.accurev.com/product/screenshots.html[^] I like them a lot. Don't even bother with PVCS, MKS, ClearCase, et all.. they're way too expensive and/or too complex, requiring full-time administrators (a lot of them). -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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            The market is getting rather crowded these days. I've used quite a few, but I always seem to keep going back to SourceSafe for a number of reasons. StarTeam was always one of my favorites, but it can be a bit clunky and slow. It's "medium priced" at about $500 a seat. Recently, they were aquired by Borland though and I'm guessing that the Borland death-touch will soon grind them into the ground. Perforce isn't bad, though last I saw their GUI was still rather primitive. I like the feature set though, and Change Lists rule. An up and comer is AccuRev http://www.accurev.com/product/screenshots.html[^] I like them a lot. Don't even bother with PVCS, MKS, ClearCase, et all.. they're way too expensive and/or too complex, requiring full-time administrators (a lot of them). -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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            Erik Funkenbusch wrote: Perforce isn't bad, though last I saw their GUI was still rather primitive I must admit I am not keen on it any tool where I have to pick up the manual for even the most basic of actions is not well thought out alas Perforce was one of these and so was WinCVS - clinging on to their old unix roots perhaps. Erik Funkenbusch wrote: An up and comer is AccuRev well the site looks promising at first glance - they are showing the one tool that I am really after - Version viewer - the ability to track a file at a glance across all the branches is what I like (I want). Branches are the meanest things in the cahnage management world and few tools seem to want to help you manage this powerful side. Clearcase does - and hence why I like it WinCVS does but it seems broken - I was creating branches that had baseline(x1)->intermediate(xN)->mainline(x1)->custombranch(xN) pattern and CS seemed to no notice all the merges in the mini branches so it got quite hard to work out which merge went where. and it looks like AccuRev has the same concept as Clearcase thanks - I just hope they are as good as they look Erik Funkenbusch wrote: Don't even bother with PVCS, MKS, ClearCase, et all.. they're way too expensive and/or too complex, requiring full-time administrators (a lot of them). Aye but I am getting old and the projects are getting more complex and I'd rather save the remaining brain cells storing memories of my children rather then juggle the current state of 10 branches of source code.

            Technically speaking the dictionary would define Visual Basic users as programmers.
            But here again, a very generalized, liberal definition is being employed and it's wrong
            - just plain wrong - Tom Archer 5/12/02

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