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So what is bad about beer?

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  • L leppie

    Besides given you a big gut? I love and drink the stuff like cooldrink.

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    ZurdoDev
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    Anything that takes away your ability to reason and act for yourself is bad. Plus, nothing but health issues from it. Hard to believe some people have convinced themselves that there is nothing wrong with it.

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    • L leppie

      Besides given you a big gut? I love and drink the stuff like cooldrink.

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      You have to drink like a horse after a long run in order to get soaked or at least to remove the work out of your melon after the working hours. Why I have to pour in my sorry throat half a gallon of some bitter strangely tasting muddy substance when the same effect comes with a two glasses of vodka and tonic. It’s good if it’s a hot summer day, but then I very rarely drink during the day…so I use the beer only for cooking.

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      • L leppie

        Besides given you a big gut? I love and drink the stuff like cooldrink.

        IronScheme
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        Lost User
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        Trick question!

        Why is common sense not common? Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy Individuality is fine, as long as we do it together - F. Burns

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        • D David Crow

          OriginalGriff wrote:

          Shouting on the big white telephone.

          Or Riding the porcelain bus.

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          OriginalGriff
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          "Parking the tiger" "Technicolour yawn"

          Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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          • H Henry Minute

            According to some scientists, nothing. In fact it is beneficial and can double your life-span. It's not just beer either, any alcoholic beverage will do. Hooray for scientists[^]

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            leppie
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            Woohoo, starting to plan my 132th birthday now ;p

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            • L leppie

              Besides given you a big gut? I love and drink the stuff like cooldrink.

              IronScheme
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              mav northwind
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              Beer contains female hormone: Drink a few and you cannot drive anymore ;P Another 5$ into the chauvinist jar...

              Regards, mav -- Black holes are the places where God divided by 0...

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              • L leppie

                Besides given you a big gut? I love and drink the stuff like cooldrink.

                IronScheme
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                Vark111
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                I'll tell you exactly the problem with beer: It disappears. I always run out of it at the least opportune moments. I keep buying more of it, but that doesn't seem to solve the problem of it always going away somehow. Real head-scratcher, that one.

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                • L leppie

                  AspDotNetDev wrote:

                  Liver disease.

                  fair, but give some context/proof beer can actually damage the liver (no doubt strong liquor can do that, but I have not heard of a roman dying from liver disease).

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                  leppie wrote:

                  I have not heard of a roman dying from liver disease

                  Claudius Galenus (aka "Galen") circa 2-3rd. century CE, born in Turkey, but a Roman citizen of Greek cultural heritage, recognized a connection between wine consumption and liver cirrhosis (the term 'cirrhosis' dates to the 19th. century CE)[^]. best, Bill

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                  • Z ZurdoDev

                    Anything that takes away your ability to reason and act for yourself is bad. Plus, nothing but health issues from it. Hard to believe some people have convinced themselves that there is nothing wrong with it.

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                    jschell
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                    ryanb31 wrote:

                    Anything that takes away your ability to reason and act for yourself is bad

                    Which pretty much describes most of my jobs when young and most of my schooling as well. Although I must say that alcohol has never taken away my ability to reason.

                    ryanb31 wrote:

                    Plus, nothing but health issues from it.

                    Almost everything that one puts in ones mouth is bad for you in one way or another. Especially in excess. For example one can die from consuming too much water.

                    ryanb31 wrote:

                    Hard to believe some people have convinced themselves that there is nothing wrong with it.

                    However not surprising that people always think that they have the right to tell other people how to live their lives and yet are so unwilling to accept and act on criticism about their own life.

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                      You have to drink like a horse after a long run in order to get soaked or at least to remove the work out of your melon after the working hours. Why I have to pour in my sorry throat half a gallon of some bitter strangely tasting muddy substance when the same effect comes with a two glasses of vodka and tonic. It’s good if it’s a hot summer day, but then I very rarely drink during the day…so I use the beer only for cooking.

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                      Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                      Why I have to pour in my sorry throat half a gallon of some bitter strangely tasting muddy substance when the same effect comes with a two glasses of vodka and tonic.

                      I would suppose that maybe you need to choose a different beer or realize that a pint of vodka with a splash of tonic isn't really a "vodka tonic".

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                      • J jschell

                        ryanb31 wrote:

                        Anything that takes away your ability to reason and act for yourself is bad

                        Which pretty much describes most of my jobs when young and most of my schooling as well. Although I must say that alcohol has never taken away my ability to reason.

                        ryanb31 wrote:

                        Plus, nothing but health issues from it.

                        Almost everything that one puts in ones mouth is bad for you in one way or another. Especially in excess. For example one can die from consuming too much water.

                        ryanb31 wrote:

                        Hard to believe some people have convinced themselves that there is nothing wrong with it.

                        However not surprising that people always think that they have the right to tell other people how to live their lives and yet are so unwilling to accept and act on criticism about their own life.

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                        ZurdoDev
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                        Way to try and wiggle out of it. I'll tell you all day long that drinking beer is bad for you but if you want to, that is your right. You have the right to destroy yourself. It is always interesting to see people reason there way into bad things and justify it just to make themselves not feel so guilty.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Hangovers. Getting arrested for drink driving. Cost. Dehydration. Having to get out of bed several times in the night to get rid of some more. Shouting on the big white telephone. Acting like an idiot when drunk (c.f. DD later this evening, probably). Should I go on? :laugh:

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                          Dexterus
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                          You learn to avoid hangovers in time. Or learn to handle them. Depends on how much you hate them. If you're an idiot and ever drive after drinking, sure. It's not that expensive if you don't abuse. And if you do abuse you could certainly get drunk with cheaper crap. That's what sparkling water near my bed is for. After drinking, before sleeping, plenty of water. With an aspirin if I feel I had enough for a hangover. Doesn't happen, will check back in 20 years. Acquired skill, to know when to stop. Depends on person, would certainly prefer that people that turn into maniacs on alcohol abstained from it. I'm quieter, calmer and my eyes sparkle apparently. Hopefully I'm not off by much, only been drinking the stuff for 18 years now. 14 years since I've bought my first one and not drained my parents' glasses. And my biggest health issues are from coffee and cigarettes.

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                          • D Dexterus

                            You learn to avoid hangovers in time. Or learn to handle them. Depends on how much you hate them. If you're an idiot and ever drive after drinking, sure. It's not that expensive if you don't abuse. And if you do abuse you could certainly get drunk with cheaper crap. That's what sparkling water near my bed is for. After drinking, before sleeping, plenty of water. With an aspirin if I feel I had enough for a hangover. Doesn't happen, will check back in 20 years. Acquired skill, to know when to stop. Depends on person, would certainly prefer that people that turn into maniacs on alcohol abstained from it. I'm quieter, calmer and my eyes sparkle apparently. Hopefully I'm not off by much, only been drinking the stuff for 18 years now. 14 years since I've bought my first one and not drained my parents' glasses. And my biggest health issues are from coffee and cigarettes.

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                            Dexterus wrote:

                            If you're an idiot and ever drive after drinking, sure.

                            And you have never had a skin-full on a Friday night, then driven Saturday morning? Watch the cr@p cop shows - the number of people who get caught the next day is far to large...

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                              Way to try and wiggle out of it. I'll tell you all day long that drinking beer is bad for you but if you want to, that is your right. You have the right to destroy yourself. It is always interesting to see people reason there way into bad things and justify it just to make themselves not feel so guilty.

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                              Dexterus
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                              Wow, generalizing much. I'm still alive and kicking and I enjoy beer. My latest health checkup only showed high blood pressure and cholesterol (my whole family has higher than average levels) but 8 double espresso's a day tend to do that, everything else was pretty much perfect. I've yet to ever do anything stupid or anything bad that I wouldn't do while sober. I don't see how your reasoning can stand as true. Sure, abuse is bad, some people can't handle alcohol but generalizing is not a sign of actually using your brain properly. More fear of the unknown, a bit of paranoia. I've been drinking since 14, by 20 I stopped abusing it and started enjoying it. Finished HS with highest grades - the period I drank most randomly in, going from crap beer to cheap colored stuff they called wine to water + refined alcohol they called vodka, depending on available money. I never even thought about driving after drinking, I never harmed anyone but a telephone table after drinking (heh, had to find upper limits, couldn't stand up to take shoes off, tried to hold on to it and it didn't want to hold me).

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                                Dexterus wrote:

                                If you're an idiot and ever drive after drinking, sure.

                                And you have never had a skin-full on a Friday night, then driven Saturday morning? Watch the cr@p cop shows - the number of people who get caught the next day is far to large...

                                Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                                Dexterus
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                                Nope, I'm a bit lazy and I normally sleep till about midday after a night of drinking. Figured it out long ago that I'm not exactly fit to drive the morning after, never really thought about getting caught by cops, more about being awake enough to drive/work, I apply the same rules when sick. I don't drink that much anymore anyway (every few weeks, I keep throwing away all those alcoholic gifts I get when they expire), but I also don't drive anymore.

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                                  Wow, generalizing much. I'm still alive and kicking and I enjoy beer. My latest health checkup only showed high blood pressure and cholesterol (my whole family has higher than average levels) but 8 double espresso's a day tend to do that, everything else was pretty much perfect. I've yet to ever do anything stupid or anything bad that I wouldn't do while sober. I don't see how your reasoning can stand as true. Sure, abuse is bad, some people can't handle alcohol but generalizing is not a sign of actually using your brain properly. More fear of the unknown, a bit of paranoia. I've been drinking since 14, by 20 I stopped abusing it and started enjoying it. Finished HS with highest grades - the period I drank most randomly in, going from crap beer to cheap colored stuff they called wine to water + refined alcohol they called vodka, depending on available money. I never even thought about driving after drinking, I never harmed anyone but a telephone table after drinking (heh, had to find upper limits, couldn't stand up to take shoes off, tried to hold on to it and it didn't want to hold me).

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                                  ZurdoDev
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                                  That explains it. Thanks.

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                                    That explains it. Thanks.

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                                    Dexterus
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                                    Oh, I thought it's just how I am, never imagined alcohol screwed me up, thought it was Mother Nature's fault. Should keep that in mind. Will raise a glass to your insight into my and average alcoholic's psyche next time I have some alcohol (next month most likely).

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                                      Oh, I thought it's just how I am, never imagined alcohol screwed me up, thought it was Mother Nature's fault. Should keep that in mind. Will raise a glass to your insight into my and average alcoholic's psyche next time I have some alcohol (next month most likely).

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                                      Alcohol is a poison so just because you haven't noticed any direct negative impacts from it does not mean it is good.

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                                        Way to try and wiggle out of it. I'll tell you all day long that drinking beer is bad for you but if you want to, that is your right. You have the right to destroy yourself. It is always interesting to see people reason there way into bad things and justify it just to make themselves not feel so guilty.

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                                        ryanb31 wrote:

                                        Way to try and wiggle out of it. I'll tell you all day long that drinking beer is bad for you but if you want to, that is your right. You have the right to destroy yourself. It

                                        I agree that people in some countris have the right to express an opinion. Other than that your statement does nothing but attempt to prove it by denigration.

                                        ryanb31 wrote:

                                        It is always interesting to see people reason there way into bad things and justify it just to make themselves not feel so guilty.

                                        It is always interesting to see people attempt to rationalize their own beliefs based on their absolute conviction of the "TRUTH" of the belief. It is very seldom that I encounter anyone that understands that the view of the world is based on a vast subjective framework that often has nothing to do with any real objective data. And even when they think they have objective data they do not understand how likely that objective data itself is based on false premises and/or systematic errors.

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                                        • Z ZurdoDev

                                          Alcohol is a poison so just because you haven't noticed any direct negative impacts from it does not mean it is good.

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                                          ryanb31 wrote:

                                          Alcohol is a poison so just because you haven't noticed any direct negative impacts from it does not mean it is good.

                                          Sigh...again you can DIE from drinking water. And do you know what that is commonly referred to? Water poisoning. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication[^] So are you now going to run around telling everyone that they shouldn't drink water?

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