Banning users on CP
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We hooked up the "Report Member" system to the "report message" in order to help those who report spammers also report the spam accounts. I'm going to unhook them. A mistake by myself last week, a possible one by another admin and now some verbal diarrhoea causing an overreaction means that the system is too sensitive.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Feel free to ignore my post in the Suggestions forum.
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Yeah, it's a shame that some people felt that his posts contravene the criteria of spamming, trolling or abuse. I didn't see swearing anywhere in that list. I am glad you brought this up my friend because it seems that the abuse button has become the weapon of first choice.
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"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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I reported the below post as abusive - quite openly - see here Out of Line[^] . I did not intend that MM's account be suspended. I see it's now in the Soapbox, which, IMO is the place for it. I don't know if you are aware how difficult it is for women to read this stuff. We are developers too and I would hope that we would be seen as peers rather than objects to be derided and abused.
It is an absolute certainty that there are no certainties. ~ Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
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Pete, he deliberately bypasssed the swear filter - the don't tell me you couldn't work out what 'f' followed asterisks meant. The use of 'fag as a derogatory erm. "hope she's raped". Yes, it's me and I droppped in a bit to see if CP had changed but it hasn't.
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I reported the below post as abusive - quite openly - see here Out of Line[^] . I did not intend that MM's account be suspended. I see it's now in the Soapbox, which, IMO is the place for it. I don't know if you are aware how difficult it is for women to read this stuff. We are developers too and I would hope that we would be seen as peers rather than objects to be derided and abused.
It is an absolute certainty that there are no certainties. ~ Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
Annie, this was one I thought long and hard about. Being honest, i didn't read all his post. As a prissy Englishman I can only take so much swearing before I change channels. Having gone back and read the posts, I agree that the post was bang out of line, in fact it was darn right offensive. But, it was an abusive message, not an abusive account which was why I commented in the way I did. As I said, though, it has lately appeared that marking accounts as abusive has become the first resort. I won't make excuses that I think Michael was joking because it was downright offensive. You know me well enough now to know that I am a fan of ladies being treated with equality. Sadly I can't see the stain of the macho posturing disappearing anytime soon. I will continue to do what I can, when I can.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
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Pete, he deliberately bypasssed the swear filter - the don't tell me you couldn't work out what 'f' followed asterisks meant. The use of 'fag as a derogatory erm. "hope she's raped". Yes, it's me and I droppped in a bit to see if CP had changed but it hasn't.
Minion no. 5 wrote:
he deliberately bypasssed the swear filter - the don't tell me you couldn't work out what 'f' followed asterisks meant.
You fuckin' muppet, the aterixes are put there by the swear filter. If I want to bypass, I just put a ' at the end instead of the g, and if they haven't fixed the filter it won't be censored. And thanks to the real time Preview, I can see the filter has been fixed.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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We hooked up the "Report Member" system to the "report message" in order to help those who report spammers also report the spam accounts. I'm going to unhook them. A mistake by myself last week, a possible one by another admin and now some verbal diarrhoea causing an overreaction means that the system is too sensitive.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
We hooked up the "Report Member" system to the "report message" in order to help those who report spammers also report the spam accounts. I'm going to unhook them
Well, I won't say anything now. ;P
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Does this happen without a warning? http://www.codeproject.com/script/Membership/View.aspx?mid=2908[^] surprised.:thumbsdown:
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
I think that, knowing MM as we do, this is how he is. I can see that it might be deemed offensive but no need to go overboard. I find his posts amusing for their reliance on invective and vitriol to make his point which is usually vacuous and pointless. You can always brush past his posts but to take the time to read them, knowing his reputation and then complain is ridiculous. However, to take the other side, he should post in the soapbox to begin with as he knows, full well, that he will absolutely offend someone.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Minion no. 5 wrote:
he deliberately bypasssed the swear filter - the don't tell me you couldn't work out what 'f' followed asterisks meant.
You fuckin' muppet, the aterixes are put there by the swear filter. If I want to bypass, I just put a ' at the end instead of the g, and if they haven't fixed the filter it won't be censored. And thanks to the real time Preview, I can see the filter has been fixed.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I think that, knowing MM as we do, this is how he is. I can see that it might be deemed offensive but no need to go overboard. I find his posts amusing for their reliance on invective and vitriol to make his point which is usually vacuous and pointless. You can always brush past his posts but to take the time to read them, knowing his reputation and then complain is ridiculous. However, to take the other side, he should post in the soapbox to begin with as he knows, full well, that he will absolutely offend someone.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
I find his posts amusing
So do I, almost everytime.
mark merrens wrote:
he should post in the soapbox to begin with as he knows, full well, that he will absolutely offend someone.
We know that's not going to happen. He gets more 5s for any word containing fuck than a newbie gets 1s for asking a programming question in the Lounge. He's part of CP folklore, that's ok. I get it.
mark merrens wrote:
I can see that it might be deemed offensive but no need to go overboard.
I get off the train here. Wishing someone was raped by an elephant in the lounge. I know it's his fucked up sense of humour that even I find funny most of the time. But in the lounge and having regulars and respected members blaming whoever reported that message as abusive. Wow!
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mark merrens wrote:
I find his posts amusing
So do I, almost everytime.
mark merrens wrote:
he should post in the soapbox to begin with as he knows, full well, that he will absolutely offend someone.
We know that's not going to happen. He gets more 5s for any word containing fuck than a newbie gets 1s for asking a programming question in the Lounge. He's part of CP folklore, that's ok. I get it.
mark merrens wrote:
I can see that it might be deemed offensive but no need to go overboard.
I get off the train here. Wishing someone was raped by an elephant in the lounge. I know it's his fucked up sense of humour that even I find funny most of the time. But in the lounge and having regulars and respected members blaming whoever reported that message as abusive. Wow!
You misunderstand me. I agree with people voting the message as abusive. It was the fact that people had appeared to vote him as abusive. The two things are different but it appeared that people were treating them the same. That's what I disagree with.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
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I think that, knowing MM as we do, this is how he is. I can see that it might be deemed offensive but no need to go overboard. I find his posts amusing for their reliance on invective and vitriol to make his point which is usually vacuous and pointless. You can always brush past his posts but to take the time to read them, knowing his reputation and then complain is ridiculous. However, to take the other side, he should post in the soapbox to begin with as he knows, full well, that he will absolutely offend someone.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
I find his posts amusing for their reliance on invective and vitriol to make his point which is usually vacuous and pointless.
But you keep on coming back anyway.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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mark merrens wrote:
I find his posts amusing for their reliance on invective and vitriol to make his point which is usually vacuous and pointless.
But you keep on coming back anyway.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
How's it going Michael. You made a lot of news this weekend I see. Anyhow, not here to judge. Just wanted to know how your diabetes crap is going for you these days. Take care.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
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You misunderstand me. I agree with people voting the message as abusive. It was the fact that people had appeared to vote him as abusive. The two things are different but it appeared that people were treating them the same. That's what I disagree with.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
It was the fact that people had appeared to vote him as abusive. The two things are different but it appeared that people were treating them the same.
Well that's not correct in this case. People were voting the message as abusive, but Chris changed the code to auto-vote the profile as abusive too whenever someone marked a post as abusive. I thought this was a pretty bad idea and told him so in the Suggestions forum. So it was just bad design rather than members incorrectly voting his profile as abusive.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Annie, this was one I thought long and hard about. Being honest, i didn't read all his post. As a prissy Englishman I can only take so much swearing before I change channels. Having gone back and read the posts, I agree that the post was bang out of line, in fact it was darn right offensive. But, it was an abusive message, not an abusive account which was why I commented in the way I did. As I said, though, it has lately appeared that marking accounts as abusive has become the first resort. I won't make excuses that I think Michael was joking because it was downright offensive. You know me well enough now to know that I am a fan of ladies being treated with equality. Sadly I can't see the stain of the macho posturing disappearing anytime soon. I will continue to do what I can, when I can.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
It was the fact that people had appeared to vote him as abusive. The two things are different but it appeared that people were treating them the same.
Well that's not correct in this case. People were voting the message as abusive, but Chris changed the code to auto-vote the profile as abusive too whenever someone marked a post as abusive. I thought this was a pretty bad idea and told him so in the Suggestions forum. So it was just bad design rather than members incorrectly voting his profile as abusive.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Indeed, but I had made my original comment prior to this information being available. This is why I used the word appeared in the message.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
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Indeed, but I had made my original comment prior to this information being available. This is why I used the word appeared in the message.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
Ok, thanks Pete. My mistake, not seeing that.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Feel free to ignore my post in the Suggestions forum.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
I'm sure he does. :-D
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Ok, thanks Pete. My mistake, not seeing that.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Hey, no probs Nish. You're a busy guy.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
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mark merrens wrote:
I find his posts amusing for their reliance on invective and vitriol to make his point which is usually vacuous and pointless.
But you keep on coming back anyway.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
But you keep on coming back anyway.
Indeed I do: you provide me with endless seconds of amusement.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Pete, he deliberately bypasssed the swear filter - the don't tell me you couldn't work out what 'f' followed asterisks meant. The use of 'fag as a derogatory erm. "hope she's raped". Yes, it's me and I droppped in a bit to see if CP had changed but it hasn't.
Ahem - I'll keep your identity secret, but I explain my reasons for my comment here[^]. However, since I posted my original comment, it has turned out that Chris had a bug in the system where voting to remove a message could trigger removing a user, but yes - I agree that the post was out of line.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility