I'm going to hell for this one...
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I assume RC = Roman Catholic. What parts don't you agree with? I am a former RC, so I have disagreements too.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunIt's when we get into some of the finer details. I was brought up URC[^] and also attended C of E through school. There is stuff in the Eucharist that I find hard to accept; such as Christ being physically present. I wonder if all Catholics truly believe this or just choose not to disagree. Confession through a priest is a big problem for me. I confess to God, it is His choice if I receive forgiveness for my sin; not some random person who, philosophically speaking, does not know me. Papal infallibility is also rather hard for me to take. Anything the Pope, any Pope, says [in the context of his ecumenical duties] is said with God's Will and so cannot be questioned. Qui custodiet ipsos custodes? That said, I have a good relationship with our priest and he is happy for me to share communion; as long as I accept the aforementioned opinion. Our children are happy in the Church School and when we move back to the UK, we will attend the local Catholic Church; with occasional visits to my Church.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
there is some stuff they're being taught that I'm not sure I agree with.
As a practising Christian I find lots of things I have difficulty with in the detail, and I think that is part of the challenge.
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Knowing that you want to know. That's the bunny.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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What about weinerschitzel?
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunI'm in. One of my favorites...
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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It's when we get into some of the finer details. I was brought up URC[^] and also attended C of E through school. There is stuff in the Eucharist that I find hard to accept; such as Christ being physically present. I wonder if all Catholics truly believe this or just choose not to disagree. Confession through a priest is a big problem for me. I confess to God, it is His choice if I receive forgiveness for my sin; not some random person who, philosophically speaking, does not know me. Papal infallibility is also rather hard for me to take. Anything the Pope, any Pope, says [in the context of his ecumenical duties] is said with God's Will and so cannot be questioned. Qui custodiet ipsos custodes? That said, I have a good relationship with our priest and he is happy for me to share communion; as long as I accept the aforementioned opinion. Our children are happy in the Church School and when we move back to the UK, we will attend the local Catholic Church; with occasional visits to my Church.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
I confess to God, it is His choice if I receive forgiveness for my sin; not some random person who, philosophically speaking, does not know me.
Just curious - what happens if that priest is suffering a crisis of belief when you confess? Or when they give last rites?
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
I confess to God, it is His choice if I receive forgiveness for my sin; not some random person who, philosophically speaking, does not know me.
Just curious - what happens if that priest is suffering a crisis of belief when you confess? Or when they give last rites?
AFAIK the theology is along the lines of they are a conduit between man and God, it is not an issue of if they really believe but that God has chosen them to hear for him; or some such. As I said before, I am not Catholic just Mrs Wife and the girls.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Now you have to tell us... do you relish wieners? Do you mustard them? Help us ketchup!
AspDotNetDev wrote:
do you relish wieners? Do you mustard them? Help us ketchup!
Don't know about everybody else... but me? I wrap my wieners with bacon :cool: -- RP
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AFAIK the theology is along the lines of they are a conduit between man and God, it is not an issue of if they really believe but that God has chosen them to hear for him; or some such. As I said before, I am not Catholic just Mrs Wife and the girls.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
there is some stuff they're being taught that I'm not sure I agree with.
As a practising Christian I find lots of things I have difficulty with in the detail, and I think that is part of the challenge.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
and I think that is part of the challenge.
I was a Christian for many, many years. I am no longer a Christian. I have found a great deal of inner peace with my decision. I am spiritual but not by man's definition but by my own. I would never have guessed that you were a Christian. Learn something new, every day. :)
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
Makes me wonder then... Can one stand outside the church and confess? After all distance shouldn't matter right? If so then doing it at home should work just as well.
[DISCLAIMER I am only talking from personal opinion] The point of confession is not admitting your sins but to request God's forgiveness. Now the ecumenical question is if the act of confessing means you mist be forgiven. If a killer confesses should his sin be forgiven? One side says yes because Jesus died so that sin could be forgiven; so if you ask you get. I believe that just because they can be forgiven it doesn't mean they will. But then I'm not a priest so wtf do I know. :-D :-D
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
and I think that is part of the challenge.
I was a Christian for many, many years. I am no longer a Christian. I have found a great deal of inner peace with my decision. I am spiritual but not by man's definition but by my own. I would never have guessed that you were a Christian. Learn something new, every day. :)
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Slacker007 wrote:
I would never have guessed that you were a Christian.
Probably because I'm not very good at it.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
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Slacker007 wrote:
I would never have guessed that you were a Christian.
Probably because I'm not very good at it.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
Probably because I'm not very good at it.
I admire your honesty. That alone makes you a better Christian than most, in my opinion.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)