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  • W Wjousts

    Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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    Is your keyboard a wireless keyboard? If it is a wireless keyboard, do you have a wireless enabled mobile device near your keyboard - if you do it could well be the mobile device... I only discovered this when every time my colleague came back from a meeting and placed his iPhone next to my keyboard all hell would break loose when I tried to type...

    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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    • W Wjousts

      Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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      OriginalGriff
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      Sounds like it has switched to a French / Belgian layout - AZERTY is the top row, and "M" is next to "L" Check what layouts you have loaded and delete the ones you don't need: it's somewhere in Control Panel > Regional and Language Options > Languages IIRC

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      • W Wjousts

        Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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        No proglems zere! ;)

        "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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          No proglems zere! ;)

          "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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          OriginalGriff
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          Are you typing with your mouth full of Toblerone again? ;)

          Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            Is your keyboard a wireless keyboard? If it is a wireless keyboard, do you have a wireless enabled mobile device near your keyboard - if you do it could well be the mobile device... I only discovered this when every time my colleague came back from a meeting and placed his iPhone next to my keyboard all hell would break loose when I tried to type...

            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

            ― Christopher Hitchens

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            Wjousts
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            None. My keyboard is wired. It is connected through a KVM switch however which connects to a desktop that I haven't used in months. Maybe I should take that out of the equation...

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Sounds like it has switched to a French / Belgian layout - AZERTY is the top row, and "M" is next to "L" Check what layouts you have loaded and delete the ones you don't need: it's somewhere in Control Panel > Regional and Language Options > Languages IIRC

              Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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              Wjousts
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              I thought that too, but it isn't system-wide. It seems to effect one application at a time. So, for example, Firefox might be working fine, but Visual Studio is acting wacky. I restart Visual Studio and now it's fine too. Then maybe some time later (maybe hours, maybe days), a different application will start acting up.

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                Are you typing with your mouth full of Toblerone again? ;)

                Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                Well, this fine quality Swiss Easter Egg isn't going to eat itself you know! ;P

                "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                • W Wjousts

                  Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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                  Septimus Hedgehog
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                  Sounds like someone wants a new laptop. Coffee first and then a faulty keyboard. Have you tried "dropping" a 10Kg hammer on it? Perhaps slip it under the wheels of a train? ;)

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Are you typing with your mouth full of Toblerone again? ;)

                    Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                    Griff, trust me, that isn't Toblerone!

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                    • W Wjousts

                      I thought that too, but it isn't system-wide. It seems to effect one application at a time. So, for example, Firefox might be working fine, but Visual Studio is acting wacky. I restart Visual Studio and now it's fine too. Then maybe some time later (maybe hours, maybe days), a different application will start acting up.

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                      OriginalGriff
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                      Windows keyboard layouts don't have to be system wide - they can be application specific (and normally by language the app was installed in). And the default key for switching keyboard language is pretty easy to hit: Left SHIFT + ALT. Try disabling that sequence via Control Panel > Regional and Language Options > Change Keyboards and see if the problem goes away.

                      Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                      • W Wjousts

                        Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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                        Wjousts wrote:

                        It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back.

                        :doh: OR maybe it was the alignment of the Moon, Venus and Jupiter in the western sky last month...

                        It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Windows keyboard layouts don't have to be system wide - they can be application specific (and normally by language the app was installed in). And the default key for switching keyboard language is pretty easy to hit: Left SHIFT + ALT. Try disabling that sequence via Control Panel > Regional and Language Options > Change Keyboards and see if the problem goes away.

                          Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                          Wjousts
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                          Wow! I can't believe I didn't know that. I bet I've done it while alt-tabbing between windows (and some time alt-shift-tabbing to go backwards). The problem was that I had a French keyboard "installed" from when I was messing around with language settings to test a . vs , issue. I removed it from the list of installed keyboards and now it won't switch even with alt-shift. Cheers!

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                            Sounds like someone wants a new laptop. Coffee first and then a faulty keyboard. Have you tried "dropping" a 10Kg hammer on it? Perhaps slip it under the wheels of a train? ;)

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                            Wjousts
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                            I would. But after it survived the tea bath I gave it, I kinda have new found respect for the tough little bugger. If only it wouldn't randomly freeze up for a few seconds every once in a while!

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                            • W Wjousts

                              Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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                              W Balboos GHB
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                              Back in the days of DOS, I wrote a TSR program that would do just about what you said: Intermittently change keystrokes. I particularly targeted the 'd' and 'r' keys, causing them to appear like fat-finger mistypes: d->f or s; r->e or t. So, just sayin' - it could be a little software mischeif, as well.

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                              • W Wjousts

                                Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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                                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                You're pressing the key combination that toggles the input language (and/or the keyboard layout). This combination is usually : Left Alt + Left Shift. If you choose the option to see language bar on your desktop, you can confirm this assumption that the input language has changed to something else (presumably EN-GB).

                                Wjousts wrote:

                                suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open.

                                The input language switch happens on process basis, and this behaviour is by design. The reason is that if I'm drafting something in Tamil language in notepad, I wouldn't want to see Tamil glyphs being typed if I just switch to Firefox for a moment and type something there. If you're not using any language other than EN-US, then go to control panel and remove the input languages that you aren't using.

                                "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                  Well, this fine quality Swiss Easter Egg isn't going to eat itself you know! ;P

                                  "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                  Assuming that your claims here are actually true, I'd think that except for when you're eating chocolates, you'd pretty much spend the rest of your time on a treadmill. :)

                                  "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                    No proglems zere! ;)

                                    "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                                      Assuming that your claims here are actually true, I'd think that except for when you're eating chocolates, you'd pretty much spend the rest of your time on a treadmill. :)

                                      "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                      You have outed me! Truth is I hardly ever eat chocolate ... I love it but I just have a little from time to time - otherwise a whole new wardrobe would be required, if you know what I mean. :rolleyes: ... but I like to dream! :-O :-D

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        Griff, trust me, that isn't Toblerone!

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                                        DeathByChocolate
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                                        You can't beat the knobbly bits on a Toblerone! ;P

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                                        • W Wjousts

                                          Wow! I can't believe I didn't know that. I bet I've done it while alt-tabbing between windows (and some time alt-shift-tabbing to go backwards). The problem was that I had a French keyboard "installed" from when I was messing around with language settings to test a . vs , issue. I removed it from the list of installed keyboards and now it won't switch even with alt-shift. Cheers!

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                                          Yep, isn't it astonishing that a stateful change can be made using only modifier keys and that this is on be DEFAULT. AND those modifier keys are part of several well-established key sequences already. Dumb as you like.

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