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  • M Mycroft Holmes

    I believe climate change is happening and I believe it is bad but these people[^] are really not helping their cause. They start off but predicting 0.38 of a metre rise in 100 years. Then they end by describing the disasters that will manifest when the sea rises by 0.50 of a metre. So this will be a problem some time LATE NEXT CENTURY. No wonder there are so many people that think this is not a problem!

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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    Rhys Gravell
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    Oh I'm sorry, what was that, all I caught was;

    Mycroft Holmes wrote:

    ...blah, blah, looking for an argument, blah, blah, blah...

    :-D

    Rhys "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe"

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      Who cares about this any more? Its a dead issue attracting less and less funding, almost zero media time and total political apathy.

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      fat_boy wrote:

      Who cares about this any more

      Actually I do, in a very casual fashion, it's just that the reporting on this is so farcical, no wonder they have no credibility.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        Oh I'm sorry, what was that, all I caught was;

        Mycroft Holmes wrote:

        ...blah, blah, looking for an argument, blah, blah, blah...

        :-D

        Rhys "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe"

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        Yeah, yeah it's a quiet afternoon and I'm waiting on some UAT feedback and carousing the paper. My son is a marine biologist in northern QLD so I sort of have a stake in the credibility of these idiots and this just annoyed me.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        • M Mycroft Holmes

          Yeah, yeah it's a quiet afternoon and I'm waiting on some UAT feedback and carousing the paper. My son is a marine biologist in northern QLD so I sort of have a stake in the credibility of these idiots and this just annoyed me.

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          Rhys Gravell
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          Yeah, didn't think much of it to be honest, just aware of those lurker just waiting to bite on something like that and wanted to beat them to the punch with a general lightening of the mood :-) NB: I'm also stuck in UAT hell at the moment. Fortunate in that 95% of testing bugs have been raised against others, (I do try to help out without 'sticking my oar in'), unfortunate in that I'm kinda' bored till we get sign off... ho, hum... twiddle thumbs... At least I've got a day off tomorrow :)

          Rhys "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe"

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          • M Mycroft Holmes

            fat_boy wrote:

            Who cares about this any more

            Actually I do, in a very casual fashion, it's just that the reporting on this is so farcical, no wonder they have no credibility.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            Mycroft Holmes wrote:

            they have no credibility.

            They never did have any credibility. :)

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            • M Mycroft Holmes

              I believe climate change is happening and I believe it is bad but these people[^] are really not helping their cause. They start off but predicting 0.38 of a metre rise in 100 years. Then they end by describing the disasters that will manifest when the sea rises by 0.50 of a metre. So this will be a problem some time LATE NEXT CENTURY. No wonder there are so many people that think this is not a problem!

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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              Pete OHanlon
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              It just seems to fit.

              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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                It just seems to fit.

                *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                Mycroft Holmes
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                Just try saying that 5 times and tell me you didn't call me a crapper tank!

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                • M Mycroft Holmes

                  I believe climate change is happening and I believe it is bad but these people[^] are really not helping their cause. They start off but predicting 0.38 of a metre rise in 100 years. Then they end by describing the disasters that will manifest when the sea rises by 0.50 of a metre. So this will be a problem some time LATE NEXT CENTURY. No wonder there are so many people that think this is not a problem!

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  You do realise that the whole thing was based on a flawed model. All very well until the evidence comes along. This evidence shows that there is no sea level rises, that Antarctic ice is actually increasing, that taken over a long time frame all these 'perceived' changes are actually cyclical and predictable and that we are, at present, coming out of one of the coldest periods since the last Ice Age. Our main problem is not global warming, but global drought. There are too many people reliant on single source water supplies. Wait until the Indians run out of water, or the Chinese over dam the Yangtze for hydroelectric power etc.

                  --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                    Just try saying that 5 times and tell me you didn't call me a crapper tank!

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Why do you think we don't call you that anyway?

                    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      You do realise that the whole thing was based on a flawed model. All very well until the evidence comes along. This evidence shows that there is no sea level rises, that Antarctic ice is actually increasing, that taken over a long time frame all these 'perceived' changes are actually cyclical and predictable and that we are, at present, coming out of one of the coldest periods since the last Ice Age. Our main problem is not global warming, but global drought. There are too many people reliant on single source water supplies. Wait until the Indians run out of water, or the Chinese over dam the Yangtze for hydroelectric power etc.

                      --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      Our main problem is not global warming, but global drought.

                      Yeah, we really felt the effects of that global drought here in the UK in June. ;)

                      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                      CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        You do realise that the whole thing was based on a flawed model. All very well until the evidence comes along. This evidence shows that there is no sea level rises, that Antarctic ice is actually increasing, that taken over a long time frame all these 'perceived' changes are actually cyclical and predictable and that we are, at present, coming out of one of the coldest periods since the last Ice Age. Our main problem is not global warming, but global drought. There are too many people reliant on single source water supplies. Wait until the Indians run out of water, or the Chinese over dam the Yangtze for hydroelectric power etc.

                        --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                        Mycroft Holmes
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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        You do realise that the whole thing was based on a flawed model

                        Nope - thats someone elses job (to understand the model)

                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        that Antarctic ice is actually increasing

                        Reference for this would be required, have you seen the size of the shelf that broke off a couple of years ago! I've been to Rajesthan, the only difference between that and the Simpson desert is that Rajesthan has people, billions of people. 3 Gorges dam has already done that I beleive

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          Our main problem is not global warming, but global drought.

                          Yeah, we really felt the effects of that global drought here in the UK in June. ;)

                          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                          Point Taken! But there is only so much fresh water and an ever increasing world population. Still, nature has a way of dealing with it.

                          --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                            Why do you think we don't call you that anyway?

                            *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                            Dammed if I'm going to get into a slanging match with a little green bloke.

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              Our main problem is not global warming, but global drought.

                              Yeah, we really felt the effects of that global drought here in the UK in June. ;)

                              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              global drought here in the UK in June.

                              I think the clue is in the phrase 'global drought' as opposed to 'tiny bit of the world you live in drought' :-D

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                                Point Taken! But there is only so much fresh water and an ever increasing world population. Still, nature has a way of dealing with it.

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                                There is more than enough fresh water, it is just not necessarily where the people are. My wife's uncle is an engineer who for a long time now has been employed getting water to people in the Middle East. He is a very wealthy man.

                                Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                  global drought here in the UK in June.

                                  I think the clue is in the phrase 'global drought' as opposed to 'tiny bit of the world you live in drought' :-D

                                  Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                                  Newcastle IS the world. Everything else is irrelevant.

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    You do realise that the whole thing was based on a flawed model. All very well until the evidence comes along. This evidence shows that there is no sea level rises, that Antarctic ice is actually increasing, that taken over a long time frame all these 'perceived' changes are actually cyclical and predictable and that we are, at present, coming out of one of the coldest periods since the last Ice Age. Our main problem is not global warming, but global drought. There are too many people reliant on single source water supplies. Wait until the Indians run out of water, or the Chinese over dam the Yangtze for hydroelectric power etc.

                                    --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                    Why should the Chinese damn the Yangtze? Edit: Like this? 'May you flow in interesting beds, Yangtze!'

                                    At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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                                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                                      I believe climate change is happening and I believe it is bad but these people[^] are really not helping their cause. They start off but predicting 0.38 of a metre rise in 100 years. Then they end by describing the disasters that will manifest when the sea rises by 0.50 of a metre. So this will be a problem some time LATE NEXT CENTURY. No wonder there are so many people that think this is not a problem!

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                      Maybe by 2090, the Australians will finally have learned that those 1-meter-high "water speed-bumps" they have are not "dykes".

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        You do realise that the whole thing was based on a flawed model. All very well until the evidence comes along. This evidence shows that there is no sea level rises, that Antarctic ice is actually increasing, that taken over a long time frame all these 'perceived' changes are actually cyclical and predictable and that we are, at present, coming out of one of the coldest periods since the last Ice Age. Our main problem is not global warming, but global drought. There are too many people reliant on single source water supplies. Wait until the Indians run out of water, or the Chinese over dam the Yangtze for hydroelectric power etc.

                                        --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                        Not that we are supposed to discuss GW on CP, but basically, the models are so immature they had no hope of predicting the future; they dont even model clouds.

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                                          Not that we are supposed to discuss GW on CP, but basically, the models are so immature they had no hope of predicting the future; they dont even model clouds.

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                                          Rhys Gravell
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                                          Apparently they are modelling clouds for the Olympic opening ceremony though... only in the UK, following the wettest June since records began, would they do this... absolutely bonkers! ;P

                                          Rhys "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe"

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