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  • W wizardzz

    I thought cotton candy was? Surely cotton candy is not the same as caramel.

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    Also true.

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      Depends. Caramel sauce is pure sugar. :-)

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      I thought cotton candy was? Surely cotton candy is not the same as caramel.

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        Also true.

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        Since cotton candy != caramel, wouldn't you say that perhaps they are both derived from a sugar class? Sorry, trying to tie in CS to this subject.

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          I'd rather have sugar than some chemical crap sweetener. Just remember a little bit of anything is okay, it is just when you have too much that it becomes a problem. Try to stick to natural foods and forget about counting calories, fat or any other bollocks. ps Are you back to regain your crown from the sheep loving Welshman?


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          Big Daddy Farang
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          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          little bit of anything

          Not how sugar is typically consumed, sadly.

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            I'd rather have sugar than some chemical crap sweetener. Just remember a little bit of anything is okay, it is just when you have too much that it becomes a problem. Try to stick to natural foods and forget about counting calories, fat or any other bollocks. ps Are you back to regain your crown from the sheep loving Welshman?


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            Christian Graus
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            Is a little bit of arsenic OK ? How about crack cocaine ? The fructose in sugar is not something our body knows how to process, so it turns it directly in to fat, on our waistline and in our blood. It's also addictive ( because for most of our existence, sugar has been desirable, in the form of hard to get fruit ). Why is there so much obesity now ? Is it because we just lost our collective will power ? It's because we're eating more and more sugar. I cut out sugar, and then did what you say - eat when I'm hungry, don't bother counting calories, etc. As I said, I lost 16 kg

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            • C Christian Graus

              Depends. Caramel sauce is pure sugar. :-)

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              Caramel sauce

              Gee thanks, guess what I'm getting after work? :rolleyes:

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              • C Christian Graus

                What is mm as a measure of weight or area ? The books I've read basically suggest that it's excess sugar that's causing the explosion in diabetes. Seems viable to me. I use something called dextrose, it's a pure glucose powder, when I make sweets, etc. But, I don't use it much, or often, for example, I have coffee without sugar now.

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                What is mm as a measure of weight or area ?

                Sorry 1000mg got a nervous twitch in my fingers. :) I also use artificial sweetener but not very often, hate the taste of it. Had an Agent Orange screening a while back and was diagnosed with Type-II diabetes so have been trying to lay off the sugar. It's hard to break because it's in a lot of stuff we consume, at least here in the US. May be a reason for weight gain also but there are a lot of other factors there.

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                • C Christian Graus

                  So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  I was always a bit dubious of the many 0% fat food you can find in supermarkets. Quite often they contains a very large amount of sugar, to the point of being the first ingredient in the list. The dogma in England appeared to be that fat make you fat. The word sugar in the contrary carry a rather positive meaning: 'sweet'. Beyond the food industry responsabilities, I wonder how much the weight of the words contributes to the obesity epidermic.

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                  • W wizardzz

                    Eating sugar? Isn't that rather gritty?

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                    When my mum was young they would have sugar sandwiches for dinner. The bread and sugar being very, very cheap.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      There's a really good lecture on sugar and our metabolism that really changed my outlook on sugar in my diet (I used to be a sugar addict; now no longer!) Here's the lecture on youtube[^]. Recommended :thumbsup:

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                      • B Big Daddy Farang

                        I think sugar is a huge contributor to the diabetes problem. Also other bad dietary choices people routinely make. Some years ago we got the idea that low-fat was the way to go. Consumers bought the idea and "food" manufacturers started reducing fat content in their products. But then it tasted like crap so they increased their use of what ingredient? Sugar. I'll stop now before a full-blown rant develops. :)

                        BDF I often make very large prints from unexposed film, and every one of them turns out to be a picture of myself as I once dreamed I would be. -- BillWoodruff

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                        Christian Graus
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                        Yes, exactly. And it's sugar, not fat, that is the issue. That's why the rise of people eating low fat has had a corresponding rise in heart disease, diabetes, etc.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          What is mm as a measure of weight or area ?

                          Sorry 1000mg got a nervous twitch in my fingers. :) I also use artificial sweetener but not very often, hate the taste of it. Had an Agent Orange screening a while back and was diagnosed with Type-II diabetes so have been trying to lay off the sugar. It's hard to break because it's in a lot of stuff we consume, at least here in the US. May be a reason for weight gain also but there are a lot of other factors there.

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                          Mike Hankey wrote:

                          I also use artificial sweetener but not very often, hate the taste of it.

                          I use dextrose, which is pure glucose. It's half of sugar, in other words. Still high calorie, but, used sparingly, it's fine, your body knows how to process glucose.

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                          It's hard to break because it's in a lot of stuff we consume, at least here in the US. May be a reason for weight gain also but there are a lot of other factors there.

                          Sugar is the main factor, I am convinced. My second month off sugar was in the US, and I ate sugar, but tried to control it. I still lost weight, so it's possible, even if you're eating out a lot. I eat more fat than I ever did before, especially animal fats, and I am keeping this weight off, no issues.

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                          • L Lost User

                            When my mum was young they would have sugar sandwiches for dinner. The bread and sugar being very, very cheap.

                            Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends. Shed Petition[^]

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                            Here they'd eat bread and dripping, same reasons.

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                            • P Pascal Ganaye

                              I was always a bit dubious of the many 0% fat food you can find in supermarkets. Quite often they contains a very large amount of sugar, to the point of being the first ingredient in the list. The dogma in England appeared to be that fat make you fat. The word sugar in the contrary carry a rather positive meaning: 'sweet'. Beyond the food industry responsabilities, I wonder how much the weight of the words contributes to the obesity epidermic.

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                              Christian Graus
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                              Sugar is what you need to add, to make no fat food edible. The dogma worldwide is that fat makes you fat. I've been reading all about the origins of the idea, but it's wrong.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                There's a really good lecture on sugar and our metabolism that really changed my outlook on sugar in my diet (I used to be a sugar addict; now no longer!) Here's the lecture on youtube[^]. Recommended :thumbsup:

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                                Christian Graus
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                                Ah yes, I've seen this one. It seems to me like a lot of people are starting to promote this ( or they always have but I'm noticing now that I'm aware of it ).

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  You probably more precisely mean that you've stopped eating *added* sugar. I don't think it's possible to cut out all sugar in everything. *meaning sucrose.

                                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                    Mike Hankey wrote:

                                    I also use artificial sweetener but not very often, hate the taste of it.

                                    I use dextrose, which is pure glucose. It's half of sugar, in other words. Still high calorie, but, used sparingly, it's fine, your body knows how to process glucose.

                                    Mike Hankey wrote:

                                    It's hard to break because it's in a lot of stuff we consume, at least here in the US. May be a reason for weight gain also but there are a lot of other factors there.

                                    Sugar is the main factor, I am convinced. My second month off sugar was in the US, and I ate sugar, but tried to control it. I still lost weight, so it's possible, even if you're eating out a lot. I eat more fat than I ever did before, especially animal fats, and I am keeping this weight off, no issues.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    I use dextrose, which is pure glucose.

                                    Thanks I never really researched it but good to know. I'll have to look up some on the subject.

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                                    • J jeron1

                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      Caramel sauce

                                      Gee thanks, guess what I'm getting after work? :rolleyes:

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                                      jeron1 wrote:

                                      guess what I'm getting after work?

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                                      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                        You probably more precisely mean that you've stopped eating *added* sugar. I don't think it's possible to cut out all sugar in everything. *meaning sucrose.

                                        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        Yes, I mean fructose, not sugar. And I do eat some fruit still, so you're right in that sense, too.

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                                          So, 60 Minutes in the US and in Australia ran two stories recently on the bad effects of eating sugar. I recently bought these[^] books and stopped eating sugar. I lost 10 kg the first month, 6 the second, and am stable at about 87 kg, whereas I was 102 before and slowly growing. Did anyone else see the shows or anything else and do the same ?

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          Cereal 500 (Primary Energy source) beer (per 500ml) 218 (Fun juice) Caesin 120 x 3 = 360 (Protein) Subway six inch 450 (For the vegetables only, taste shit.) Pork Chop 175 x 4 = 700 --------------------------- Total (No cereal) = 1728 <-- cut diet for better abdominal definition (three days a week) Total (With cereal) = 2228 <-- gain diet (four days a week) [Got to admit diet extremely boring]

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