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  • A Andrei Straut

    Dalek Dave wrote:

    What a fat, ugly, heifer that is.
     
    I need eye-bleach.

    C'mon, she's the queef queen of Australian mining, what'd you expect?

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    Pete OHanlon
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    To quote my mate Pri - she's an absolute munter.

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      I have seen this before, and noted that it would need an unparalleled commitment from ALL nations, not just capitalist ones. For it to work, all nations would need to sign up and follow it. It would, effectively, be the end of nation states.

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      Mark_Wallace
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      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

      It would, effectively, be the end of nation states.

      Well, if we're ever going to live like they do in Star Trek, nation states are one of the first things that have to go.

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        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

        It would, effectively, be the end of nation states.

        Well, if we're ever going to live like they do in Star Trek, nation states are one of the first things that have to go.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        And this is why the Daily Mail and the Sun will thwart the federation.

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          I pay more than minimum wage - if people are worth a wage, that's what you should pay them, not try to shaft them down to a lower wage. According to the worlds richest woman though, Australia should get rid of the minimum wage altogether so that she can pay her workers whatever she likes to compete with regions like Africa. Source[^]. Interestingly enough, she has previously suggested that people who are jealous of wealth could be just as wealthy as her if they stopped drinking and smoking, and spent more time working (presumably at her company to make her richer still). After all, she started from nothing so she knows what she's talking about. Oh wait, she inherited a fortune, so perhaps she doesn't. Fortunately for Australia, their Prime Minister has poured scorn on the idea.

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          peterchen
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          She's been heaping up the sillities indeed. Maybe she's looking for a mate and her eyes fell on the Romney.

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            I pay more than minimum wage - if people are worth a wage, that's what you should pay them, not try to shaft them down to a lower wage. According to the worlds richest woman though, Australia should get rid of the minimum wage altogether so that she can pay her workers whatever she likes to compete with regions like Africa. Source[^]. Interestingly enough, she has previously suggested that people who are jealous of wealth could be just as wealthy as her if they stopped drinking and smoking, and spent more time working (presumably at her company to make her richer still). After all, she started from nothing so she knows what she's talking about. Oh wait, she inherited a fortune, so perhaps she doesn't. Fortunately for Australia, their Prime Minister has poured scorn on the idea.

            *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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            Mark_Wallace
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            She should lead by example. If she were to live on $2 per day, I'm sure that it would save the company an absolute fortune. And all the managers, too. Why should it be only the workers who have to starve? They're already paid less than the managers, so the biggest savings, which would help most in this competitive world, would come from cutting managerial salaries. If it's all right for one "class" to be poor, it's all right for all "classes" to be poor. Why should poverty be the exclusive right of those who do all the work?

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              I pay more than minimum wage - if people are worth a wage, that's what you should pay them, not try to shaft them down to a lower wage. According to the worlds richest woman though, Australia should get rid of the minimum wage altogether so that she can pay her workers whatever she likes to compete with regions like Africa. Source[^]. Interestingly enough, she has previously suggested that people who are jealous of wealth could be just as wealthy as her if they stopped drinking and smoking, and spent more time working (presumably at her company to make her richer still). After all, she started from nothing so she knows what she's talking about. Oh wait, she inherited a fortune, so perhaps she doesn't. Fortunately for Australia, their Prime Minister has poured scorn on the idea.

              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              As far as I'm concerned, minimum wage laws are around because of people like her!

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              • M Mark_Wallace

                She should lead by example. If she were to live on $2 per day, I'm sure that it would save the company an absolute fortune. And all the managers, too. Why should it be only the workers who have to starve? They're already paid less than the managers, so the biggest savings, which would help most in this competitive world, would come from cutting managerial salaries. If it's all right for one "class" to be poor, it's all right for all "classes" to be poor. Why should poverty be the exclusive right of those who do all the work?

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Andrei Straut
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                Mark Wallace wrote:

                Why should poverty be the exclusive right of those who do all the work?

                [sarcasm]   Because Capitalism says they weren't good enough to make themselves rich [/sarcasm]

                Mark Wallace wrote:

                Why should it be only the workers who have to starve?

                [sarcasm again]   And what would you have the poor managers do? Commute using public transport, or even worse, fly with low-cost air companies or, God Forbid, Economic? [/sarcasm again] [seriously]   I agree with every word you've said, and in an ideal world, it would be as you've said it. However, we are far from ideal, and these people will all keep doing as this fat c**t does till we all gather the nuts and go pay them as they deserve. Which I think was Communism's original condensed idea, more or less. Too bad it didn't work (Churchill's quote comes to mind). [/seriously]

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                  I agree completely. If only those lazy corpses (starved to death due to cash-crops for the capitalist companies being grown on their subsistence lands) would get off their fat backsides and log on using their cheap computers (that still somehow somehow cost several years annual income - thanks again capitalism) to complain to their governments that may or may not be in the pockets of mutinational democratic charities greedy, corupt, amoral companies the world would be a better place! The alternative? Benign global dictatorship. Modesty prevents me from suggesting a suitable candidate for president of the world ;) Andy B

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                  Communism has NEVER been able to feed itself. It is intrinsic human nature, and no amount of political will can change that. Certainly China cannot grow enough food to feed itself, and the USSR was always subject to the whims of the USA as that is where most of its grain came from.

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                    She's changed a lot in 3 years.[^]

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    Nah, not that much. I wouldn't do it with yours, let alone put mine anywhere near it.

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                    • A Andrei Straut

                      Mark Wallace wrote:

                      Why should poverty be the exclusive right of those who do all the work?

                      [sarcasm]   Because Capitalism says they weren't good enough to make themselves rich [/sarcasm]

                      Mark Wallace wrote:

                      Why should it be only the workers who have to starve?

                      [sarcasm again]   And what would you have the poor managers do? Commute using public transport, or even worse, fly with low-cost air companies or, God Forbid, Economic? [/sarcasm again] [seriously]   I agree with every word you've said, and in an ideal world, it would be as you've said it. However, we are far from ideal, and these people will all keep doing as this fat c**t does till we all gather the nuts and go pay them as they deserve. Which I think was Communism's original condensed idea, more or less. Too bad it didn't work (Churchill's quote comes to mind). [/seriously]

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      C'mon, you wouldn't want poor old Dalek Dave to struggle by on just a three course lunch and reduced expense account would you?

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                        Communism has NEVER been able to feed itself. It is intrinsic human nature, and no amount of political will can change that. Certainly China cannot grow enough food to feed itself, and the USSR was always subject to the whims of the USA as that is where most of its grain came from.

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                        I didn't mention Communism. My own, very reasonable, plans for a new world order would first of all seek to manage the planets population down to a sustainable level via a series of genetically-engineered super-virii that rendered the majority of the populus sterile. Of course we'd still need people to till the land and produce food for the remaining breeding herd of humanity so I would have the dregs of society, those that have produced nothing of value retrained to perform the tasks manually and save the remaining fossil resources for the future. I'd probably start with criminals and work down to lawyers and accountants. Hmm, more ideas are formulating as I type but I need to shave my head and feed my persian cat just now. Andy B

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                          C'mon, you wouldn't want poor old Dalek Dave to struggle by on just a three course lunch and reduced expense account would you?

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                          Andrei Straut
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                          I'll revise my opinion a week after you become an australian mining tycoon and you grow a belly and a c**t :)

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            Communism has NEVER been able to feed itself. It is intrinsic human nature, and no amount of political will can change that. Certainly China cannot grow enough food to feed itself, and the USSR was always subject to the whims of the USA as that is where most of its grain came from.

                            --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                            Zimbabwe is a perfect example of a communist state who have gotten rid of the evil capitalists. They live in absolute luxury now... Oh wait...

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                              I agree completely. If only those lazy corpses (starved to death due to cash-crops for the capitalist companies being grown on their subsistence lands) would get off their fat backsides and log on using their cheap computers (that still somehow somehow cost several years annual income - thanks again capitalism) to complain to their governments that may or may not be in the pockets of mutinational democratic charities greedy, corupt, amoral companies the world would be a better place! The alternative? Benign global dictatorship. Modesty prevents me from suggesting a suitable candidate for president of the world ;) Andy B

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                              W Balboos GHB
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                              LabVIEWstuff wrote:

                              he alternative? Benign global dictatorship. Modesty prevents me from suggesting a suitable candidate for president of the world

                              I've already put dibs in on that position. However, I'm willing to offer you a position of Minister of Ministers.

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                                And there you have one hell of an example why this corporate capitalistic system is much like a cancer... Edit: and there are alternatives: For example Venus Project

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                                Ak-2-ewe-leigh, Capitalism is an excellent medium for economic growth . . . at first. The problem arises when, unbridled, it switches from inspiration to domination. At that point, it starts to eat its own children. Socialism, alas, ended up suffering from the same fate (alas, almost from the get-go) and ended up being communist dictatorships - and no longer socialist at all in any moral or ethical sense. However, even if done correctly, it goes against the survival instinct humans (along with other creatures) have evolved. Survival, and various expositions of it, is a form of greed, albeit a necessary one (i.e., protect your genes: self -> children -> family -> clan -> tribe -> nation -> species) So, the socialist experiment failed, and with a few exception, is always doomed to fail (just like mega-corporations destroying capitalism) So, what we need is some well honed in-between derivation or perhaps something altogether new.

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                                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

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                                • P Pete OHanlon

                                  I pay more than minimum wage - if people are worth a wage, that's what you should pay them, not try to shaft them down to a lower wage. According to the worlds richest woman though, Australia should get rid of the minimum wage altogether so that she can pay her workers whatever she likes to compete with regions like Africa. Source[^]. Interestingly enough, she has previously suggested that people who are jealous of wealth could be just as wealthy as her if they stopped drinking and smoking, and spent more time working (presumably at her company to make her richer still). After all, she started from nothing so she knows what she's talking about. Oh wait, she inherited a fortune, so perhaps she doesn't. Fortunately for Australia, their Prime Minister has poured scorn on the idea.

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                                  Yeah, she's clueless. She inherited a vast fortune by sheer luck, and this is what happens when she convinces herself that she deserves it. "Anybody can become a multi-billionaire! Just work 5000 hour days, like I did! Until I can start paying $2 a day, that is - then you'll have to work a LOT harder."

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    I pay more than minimum wage - if people are worth a wage, that's what you should pay them, not try to shaft them down to a lower wage. According to the worlds richest woman though, Australia should get rid of the minimum wage altogether so that she can pay her workers whatever she likes to compete with regions like Africa. Source[^]. Interestingly enough, she has previously suggested that people who are jealous of wealth could be just as wealthy as her if they stopped drinking and smoking, and spent more time working (presumably at her company to make her richer still). After all, she started from nothing so she knows what she's talking about. Oh wait, she inherited a fortune, so perhaps she doesn't. Fortunately for Australia, their Prime Minister has poured scorn on the idea.

                                    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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                                    Looks like she may have worked herself up the corporate dinner table as well. In some areas they cut off limbs if you don't work would this work for her also?

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                                      LabVIEWstuff wrote:

                                      he alternative? Benign global dictatorship. Modesty prevents me from suggesting a suitable candidate for president of the world

                                      I've already put dibs in on that position. However, I'm willing to offer you a position of Minister of Ministers.

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

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                                      I will be pleased to accept the position of Minister for National and Presidential Security and will ensure that I hand-pick only the most loyal men for the presidential bodyguard. Andy B

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                                      • J Jan Steyn

                                        Zimbabwe is a perfect example of a communist state who have gotten rid of the evil capitalists. They live in absolute luxury now... Oh wait...

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                                        Zimbabwe isn't communist, they wanted to get rid of the evil oppressive white people and just didn't think about what they were going to do about the skills that the white people had. It's still a capitalist country, just a failed one.

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                                        • P Pete OHanlon

                                          I pay more than minimum wage - if people are worth a wage, that's what you should pay them, not try to shaft them down to a lower wage. According to the worlds richest woman though, Australia should get rid of the minimum wage altogether so that she can pay her workers whatever she likes to compete with regions like Africa. Source[^]. Interestingly enough, she has previously suggested that people who are jealous of wealth could be just as wealthy as her if they stopped drinking and smoking, and spent more time working (presumably at her company to make her richer still). After all, she started from nothing so she knows what she's talking about. Oh wait, she inherited a fortune, so perhaps she doesn't. Fortunately for Australia, their Prime Minister has poured scorn on the idea.

                                          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                                          Yeah, she's a real sunshine of a thing, that one. It is said thee is a fundamental difference in the way that workers/employers approach money and taxation. The average worker pays their tax each week, never actually seeing the money which must be handed over. At the other end of the scale, tax is not withheld weekly, but rather paid 'back' in quarterly instalments. Nobody likes having to hand over these chunks if cash, so there is great impetus for finding means by which the amount handed over may be minimized. This difference it was speculated, was responsible for the differences observed in tax evasion rates for different socio-economic groups. I think that I've simplified the study to such an extent to nearly do it's authors a disservice. Never the less, this is a woman whose own biological children have taken court action to recover money they claimed she was withholding. This is a woman who went into warfare mode when the govt announced that a carbon-tax would affect her bottom line (nah, her company's - her ass is still huge). This is a woman that had bought newspapers in a clumsy bid to buy editorial space in national newspaper/radio programs. This is a woman that can't even feed herself a suitable amount. What the elephant would she know about judicious and careful consumption?

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